Skip to comments.THE GANG OF EIGHT’S BILL WILL NEVER BECOME LAW
Posted on 06/28/2013 12:06:29 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Not unless House Republicans have completely taken leave of their senses, in which case, for the first time in my lifetime, talking about a new party wont be crazy.
As many flaws as the Gangs bill has, we can never repeat too often that it is fundamentally misconceived in a manner that cannot be made right with a fence or even with improved interior enforcement, valuable as those things may be in their own right. The fundamental problem with the bill is what it does with legal immigration. Instead of reforming our Ted Kennedy-inspired, irrational 60s-era immigration regime, it perpetuates it and even makes it worse. Thus, the Bill authorizes somewhere between 30 million and 60 million new legal immigrants over the next ten years, 90% of them low-skill and low-wage. The Democrats hope this will create a mammoth and permanent underclass that will be forever dependent on government for security, and will reliably vote Democrat for generations. Certain business interests hope the bill will deal a crippling blow to Americas working class, driving down wages and providing an inexhaustible supply of cheap labor.
That isnt admirable, but it makes a certain kind of sense. And we know that Democrats are contemptuous of blue-collar workers and dont care what happens to them. Cheaper household help for bicoastal liberals? Whats not to like? But why should Republicans acquiesce in this vicious assault on Americas working class?
I am not sure why more Republicans havent joined in Jeff Sessions lonely crusade to expose the deeply misguided, if not malignant, heart of the Gangs legislation. On this issue, as on several others over the last few years, Sessions has been the bellwether. Today he spoke at length against the Gangs bill. In this brief excerpt, he sounded what I think (and Sessions thinks) is the most important theme: the bill was crafted by special interests to serve the Democratic Party and certain narrow economic interests by driving down the wages of Americas blue collar workers:
CLICK ABOVE LINK FOR THE VIDEO
Lets hope House Republicans are listening.
IMMIGRATION BILL ABOUT AMNESTY FOR OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND SOCIAL SECURITY CARD FRAUD!!
If a majority of House Republicans support an immigration bill and push it through the House, the stage will be set for a conference committee and final approval. Obama will sign amnesty.
Boehner made his little politically calculated statement about passing a bill with majority support from Republicans.
IF BOEHNER GETS THE BALL ROLLING ON THAT BASIS AND GETS A BILL PASSED, ANY BILL, EVEN WITH DIFFERENCES FROM THE SENATE VERSION THEN THE GAME IS UP. AMNESTY WILL WIN IN THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS AND BE SIGNED BY OBAMA.
well we have lost most of our 3 parts of government, the executive is gone, the judicial is gone and half of Congress is gone if we lose the House of Representatives, all of our checks and balances are gone including fair elections (voter fraud)
line in the sand time.
Never say never nor underestimate the Republican penchant for helping Democrats.
The House will block it and then Reid and the RATS will scream all the way to the elections about the racist Republicans.
Boehner will come up with his own plan to implement Obama’s Amnesty Agenda.
D & R differ in implementation details not agenda.
1) No House bill, no Senate bill
2) Enforce Existing Law
2nd amendment. 1st amendment failed due to human nature. “The love of money” just ask dirt bags like Matt Liar. He sells his countrymen out everyday for $$$.
I believe you are correct on what you say. I do remember Zero saying he would weaken/destroy the Republicans and they are helping him every step of the way.
Well if there is any good to come of this,,it exposed the gang of eight,,Rubio, McCain, etc,,,,,all their efforts were in vain...I hope!
If the R’s were smart (yes, that’s laughable), they would pull out the most foolish and egregious aspects of this bill and use them to mercilessly beat every democrat and RINO Republican Senator in the 2014 election cycle.
But then, that statement was based on the false premise of intellect by most of the R’s.
No, I don't think so. That's a stretch.
Fraud, forgery, perjury, conspiracy, obstruction of justice. This I believe is the real scandal of a lifetime and a constitutional crisis. No one...I mean no one wants to touch this lil gem.
Not sure whether Obozo is a foreign citizen by birth or not (I tend to think that he is), it is entirely possible that he is indeed an American citizen but used the facade of being a foreign student to gain federal assistance in which case the above crimes still come into play.
It would just shift from usurper of the constitution to high crimes and misdemeanors.
In any case, there are so many people involved in this coverup, it would make the JFK assassination and watergate look like child's play.
Notice the part after the semicolon: continues work on comprehensive House immigration bill
Carter has a near 100% conservative voting record until now. He has said recently that this House "comprehensive" bill will will contain no path=to-citizenship. Who knows, nobody has seen this bill yet.
But some things trouble me about this:
1) They think the word "comprehensive" is a good thing
2) If this new House bill passes, even without a path-to-citizenship, could it go into conference with a senate committee approved by Schumer, and come out with a path-to-citizenship? After that, I doubt Boehner would stop the House from voting on it (think Dems + 35 GOP traitors/porkophiles/extortionees in the House).
I don't think Boehner has promised not to bring a conference-approved bill for vote.
With our courts as screwed up as they are, I don’t see any situation developing where foreigners remain here and don’t get some sort of pathway to citizenship.
Some judge will say that’s inhuman, and sets up a second class resident situation. It will be struck down just like DOMA was.
Who are they trying to kid? We’re not that stupid.
did you see the thread about the AMNESTY for anyone who used a fraudulent SS number?
Yes, I have posted the same concern on some thread. If the House passes such a bill ("comprehensive" but without a path-to-citizenship), maybe the best possible outcome would be that the house and senate can't agree on any bill and give up. Obama, and of course the media, are ready to escalate the demagoguery in that case.
No offense at all intended to OP, but it seems for last decade, every time I see any positive headline, it fails to materialize.
In all likelihood after a House bill is incestuously mated with the Senate bill, the offspring will kill us all seconds after it is born.
Sorry, but some days its hard to keep your head up.
Hey Bronzewound, keep your head up!
He pointed out how as soon as this bill passed McCain and Grahamnesty jumped on camera to rejoice and demand the House pass the bill.
But he says ‘where's Rubio? He has suddenly disappeared”
Yep, the Senate bill isnt going over well with the House GOP. Total piece of crap. Time for Rubio to hide for a while
They also pointed out how if Dems want the house to pass immigration they best tell McCain and Grahmnesty to shut up because they make many in the house GOP want to do the opposite to spite them. Insightful for sure.
I heard this one on CSPAN radio this morning from a DC reporter, that is all I know about it :
They said the house would/will vote on a number separate immigration bills individually such that its not one big circle j..k of bribes and deals as with comprehensive anything. Each one is judged on its own .
, each bill requiring a slim majority of Rs w enough Dems (almost equal) to pass, and we see how difficult that is to get.
Then anything that gets though that gets put into a single bill that goes to conference.
Bohner’s on public record assuring that he wont take a conference negotiated bill to House Dems to pass as with VAWA. I doubt he will backtrack on that, but that place is crazy so hopefully you wont find this comment again if he does HA-HA.
Did I mention that Ryan is a a$$whipe?? Today?? He always gave me that feeling I got when the Kerby vaccuum salesman did giving me the sales pitch, although Rubio is much more aggressive than him in sales for sure. really dangerous.
Excellent info SOL!
If McC and Goober are really that unpopular among the total House GOP membership, maybe we should call their offices telling them to keep it up:)
There is always the Law of Unintended Consequences though. If the media thinks that voters are backing them, they could make such a big deal of it that cowardly House members might take them seriously.
However to try to launch a massive call in with an idea like that without them catching on would be tricky.
I will have to think about that a bit but I have an idea on this for some fun.
Hopefully their(McCain and Grahamesty) huge egos will do our work for us, that they will keep on going on Sundays shows pissing off house members.
It makes sense that to get Obama-amnesty-care Obama had to stay quiet while Rubio convinced us that Obama would hate the bill. Now that it is in the House's hands you can add McCain and Grahmnesty to that list of those Obama needs to shut up, since Bohner said he wont pass it without GOP votes.
One last point : Rubio is extremely likable in his performances. Likable and looking compassionate.
Conclude what you like from that, to many Republicans someone like him will be seen as the GOP Obama, someone who can dupe the critical 53%.
But can Rubio help Dems passing amnesty now after this?
That’s what I’m hoping for, no bill at all.
Simply enforce the laws we have on the books now.
Stiffer border protection...
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