[Timber Rattler]

Crap like this is why the Libertarian Party has never amounted to a hill of beans, and why it never will.

[riverdawg]

The true libertarian (small l) position is that government should get out of the marriage business altogether.

[windsorknot]

There is a fine line between being a libertarian and being a libertine.

[This I Wonder32460]

fools live to regret the folly they sow

[PlanToDisappear]

I’m (mostly) a Libertarian and I don’t really understand the position they’re taking here. From the viewpoint of limiting government involvement in peoples’ lives, doesn’t this decision just mean gays will have to go to Mother Government and ask for a license to get married now the same way straights do? Shouldn’t the idea be to get the federal government *out* of marriage and give it back to the churches where it belongs?

I’m may not be religious personally, but I know that a vow made before God is infinitely more important than an approving piece of government stationary.

For that reason I’ve never understood why *gays* want gay marriage. A piece of paper is meaningless. The legal commitments can all be done without the government stamp of approval.

[familyop]

Libertarians will probably have more of their stinking meth parties to celebrate the ignorant decision resulting from their notorious dishonesty and bureaucratic grasp on the pile of debt used for sponsoring it.

[Gene Eric]

The Idiot Party.

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The article and comments on the thread make the picture very clear, exactly what libertarianism really is. And anyone who continues to call themselves a Libertarian or libertarian is making it clear what their principles and values are.

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[jwalsh07]

Morons who are good with judicial fascism so long as the outcome suits them.

[prairiebreeze]

Exactly. No more needs to be said.

[tanknetter]

Crap like this is why the Libertarian Party has never amounted to a hill of beans, and why it never will.

I don't know, I think that (and this is strictly from a political mechanics standpoint) the Libertarians are doing a smart thing for themselves here.

There are Republicans (note, I'm not using the word "Conservative") who are looking for other alternatives. The coalition that elected Reagan and Bush (43) and brought in the GOP House/Senate in 1994 was made up of Social Conservatives, Fiscal Conservatives and Foreign Policy/National Security hawks. That coalition is increasingly balkanized and is in the process of fracturing.

Then there are Democrats (note, I'm not using the word "Liberal") who are looking for other alternatives as well. Primarily young people who right now seem to be damn ticked off about the surveillance thing (witness Pelosi getting heckled and booed at Netroots), but aren't willing to cross over to the GOP because they can't stand Social Conservatives.

The Libertarians are trying to position themselves to pick off people from both those groups, with an emphasis right now on dissatisfied young Dem voters. Who actually support gay marriage to a large degree. So what the Libertarians do is inoculate themselves from criticism on social issues while hammering away at wedge issues like the surveillance.

It's not a bad strategy at all, again just from a political mechanics standpoint. Kinda surprising that the Libertarians actually put down their bongs long enough to come up with it tho.

[MaxMax]

The Libs are infiltrating every aspect of their enemies domain. They are spies and they need to be called out and kicked out.

[Pinkbell]

That is one of many reasons why I’ll NEVER be a Libertarian. I’m a conservative and proud of it.