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SUPREME COURT STRIKES DOWN FEDERAL PROVISION DENYING BENEFITS TO LEGALLY MARRIED SAME-SEX COUPLES
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Posted on 06/26/2013 7:12:46 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty

Edited on 06/26/2013 7:25:51 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: All

Per FOX Scalia is reading his dissent aloud (unusual) and is quite steamed .


51 posted on 06/26/2013 7:23:47 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: snarkytart

Sorry - no decision due to lack of jurisdiction.


52 posted on 06/26/2013 7:24:09 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: All

Maybe we should all leave before sodomy becomes mandatory.


53 posted on 06/26/2013 7:24:13 AM PDT by zipper ("The Second Amendment IS my carry permit!" -- Ted Nugent)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

I suppose one benefit of having Rand Paul be the next president is that all of these benefits would be gone for Sodomites


54 posted on 06/26/2013 7:24:16 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: 2nd Amendment

LOL


55 posted on 06/26/2013 7:24:30 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: DTogo

EXACTLY!


56 posted on 06/26/2013 7:24:42 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: DoodleDawg
Another 5 to 4 decision. I assume Roberts flipped?

No Roberts was on the right side, it was Anthony "foreign law" Kennedy...

57 posted on 06/26/2013 7:24:43 AM PDT by apillar
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To: 2nd Amendment

So....doin’ anything later? ;)


58 posted on 06/26/2013 7:24:55 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: rarestia
Lord, please take me quickly and do not prolong my suffering for the sins of my countrymen.

The Lord has us here for a reason. Obviously we still have a lot of work to do.

59 posted on 06/26/2013 7:25:01 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: DTogo
Beat me too it. Several recent decisions will/should come into play in the 2A fight.
60 posted on 06/26/2013 7:25:02 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Shockingly, as I look into the ruling I am actually finding myself agreeing with the court — this is a STATE issue not a Federal one.

The Fed Gov should not be involved one way or the other, it should be for each state to decide - and this and the Prop 8 punt both send that message. States can decide whether they are for or against gay marraige and whether to give benefits.


61 posted on 06/26/2013 7:25:10 AM PDT by commish (The takers rule. Time to implement the triple G plan - GOD, GUNS, & GOLD)
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To: RB156
I’m just glad it wasn’t legalized nationwide, THAT would’ve been messy.

It effective was. And it's going to REALLY get messy.

Now, these fake "Marriages" are going to be exportable, as a couple "marries" in Iowa and then moves to Texas. They will be recognized as "married" for federal purposes, and as many conditions as the federal government has in funding for state programs, this status will be capitalized upon to the max.

62 posted on 06/26/2013 7:25:13 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: RB156

This is one time it might have been nice if Kennedy relied on international law to interpret the US Constiturion

Like maybe homosexual relationship law in Iran or Zimbabwe


63 posted on 06/26/2013 7:25:34 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: RB156

Was the 5th vote Kennedy or Roberts?

Seems like you are saying it was definitely Kennedy?


64 posted on 06/26/2013 7:25:35 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: cripplecreek
"Personally I would ditch the federal definition of marriage (leave it up to the church) and cut the marriage related federal benefits down to a handful from some 1500."

IF they had cut the monetary goodies for being married from the Federal Government BEFORE this decision the issue would have dried up and been moot.

Instead the Right served up a nice slow hanging curve ball Named DOMA and the Gayberts crushed it and sent it out of the stadium.

Bottom Line, GAY Marriage is now enshrined into the DNA of the Fed Gov forever.

Marriage is now regulated by the Federal Government.

Well done Conservatives you just made Government EVEN BIGGER!

65 posted on 06/26/2013 7:25:35 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

This wouldn’t have happened if Ronald Reagan had done his homework.


66 posted on 06/26/2013 7:25:36 AM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: schm0e

ankle grabbing


67 posted on 06/26/2013 7:25:39 AM PDT by sappy (criminaldems)
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To: mountainlion

cheer up, we’re not all sodomites

we just have to pay them “benefits” for hooking up


68 posted on 06/26/2013 7:26:35 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: BarbM

KENNEDY, J., delivered the opinion of the Court, in which GINSBURG, BREYER, SOTOMAYOR, and KAGAN, JJ., joined.

ROBERTS, C. J., filed a dissenting opinion. SCALIA, J., filed a dissenting opinion, in which THOMAS, J., joined, and in which ROBERTS, C. J., joined as to Part I. ALITO, J., filed a dissenting opinion, in which THOMAS, J., joined as to
Parts II and III.


69 posted on 06/26/2013 7:26:48 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: Patrick1

So, when it comes time for a same sex couple to file for social security benefits, will only one will get full amount while “spouse” will receive half? If not married, both would get full benefit. Just ask’in...


70 posted on 06/26/2013 7:26:54 AM PDT by lunarville (Common sense ain't so common anymore...)
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To: Theodore R.

He was only Reagan’s THIRD choice!
Teddy Kennedy kept his first choice off the court!

This has Ted’s fingerprints ALL over it


71 posted on 06/26/2013 7:26:55 AM PDT by massmike (At least no one is wearing a "Ron Paul - 2016" tee shirt........yet!)
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To: schm0e

“What comes after “slouching” toward Gomorrah?”

Acts of GOD: earthquakes, hurricanes, tsunamis, fire, famine, pestilence. GOD will not be mocked.


72 posted on 06/26/2013 7:27:00 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever ((Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!))
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To: fwdude

Good. The messier the better. Means more people get POs instead of just going along.


73 posted on 06/26/2013 7:27:04 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

I appreciate the offer Norm, but I was being (figuratively) tongue-in-cheek. I prefer to take my chances with the God of the Bible and not risk eternal damnation with sodomy.


74 posted on 06/26/2013 7:27:16 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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To: commish

Yes but why would Scalia be against the STATE deciding? And the state DID decide in prop 8 and it sounds like they’re saying the ruling made to over turn prop 8 stands?


75 posted on 06/26/2013 7:27:22 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: The Sons of Liberty

The local radio outlet for one of the conservative talkies I monitor uses ABC Radio news. They have a Yale Prof, a remote in San Fransisco, all gushing over first reports the only thing missing is camp follower Anne Compton with a dramatic reading.


76 posted on 06/26/2013 7:27:32 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
How Satanic of a decision can you get ?
This is what we get when we FAIL to OBEY God.
For it is written: Those who support homosexuals are against our Heavenly Father and His Son Jesus Christ.
These anti Christ people only bring destruction on us ALL.
I have NO sympathy for homosexuals!

Homosexuality is a "Mark" of disobedience.
Someone once asked The answer is in the definition of "REPROBATE". And the reason"why" is given in the Bible.

God has a cure for homosexuals.
77 posted on 06/26/2013 7:27:44 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: SE Mom

His dissent is withering, and is excellent reading—worth seeking the pdf of the decision.

But the libs won again.

“When in the course of human events.....” is coming soon for America.


78 posted on 06/26/2013 7:28:05 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: commish

Exactly. This ruling sets up a supporting ruling on Prop 8.

Either sates have rights or they don’t. Conservative can’t argue states rights on Obamacare and then argue for Federal Control on marriage because it suits their cause.


79 posted on 06/26/2013 7:28:10 AM PDT by CrappieLuck
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To: Mr Rogers

Thank you. I forgot Breyer. Shame on us. Shame.


80 posted on 06/26/2013 7:28:20 AM PDT by BarbM (Portuguese Dog--Kenyan president)
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To: Theodore R.

and that would mean they would have to pay more in taxes, right? I’m still single but I’ve always heard of the marriage penalty that slams people.


81 posted on 06/26/2013 7:28:23 AM PDT by midnightcat
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To: taildragger

Isn’t it ironic, they are clammering for bennies that are broke, i.e. SSI, Medicare, Medicade etc etc etc. It is like being the king of wishful thinking. These programs need re-engineering and or privatization or insert buzzword here, but are they getting an empty bowl in the long run?


These programs will empty the bowl for all of us because our income and welfare is measured in the dollars we earn. The same dollars they will print until worthless because they will not prioritize, cap, and budget these welfare programs that are paid out in dollars the government does not possess.

America needs to wake up and understand our fate is interwoven with the dollar and the dollar is interwoven with government debt, spending, and quantitative easing that = welfare for the banks and stock market.


82 posted on 06/26/2013 7:28:31 AM PDT by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: babygene
I would argue that there are no legally married same sex couples, since such a union can’t be consummated due to the biology required.

And which state requires consummation for a legal marriage to exist? Because of physical disabilities, not every heterosexual marriage can be consummated. And those marriages are very valid!

83 posted on 06/26/2013 7:28:33 AM PDT by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
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To: shadeaud
Soon I, being heterosexual, will be able to claim it a disability.

As long as you do not proclaim Jesus Christ as your Savior. Christianity it the real target here. Not heterosexuals. We (as heterosexuals) just became collateral damage in the war against Christianity

84 posted on 06/26/2013 7:29:03 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: rarestia

>>for the sins of my countrymen<<

These are not your countrymen, they are enemies to this country.


85 posted on 06/26/2013 7:29:03 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: apillar

I heard the lower court ruling on Prop 8 would stand. WHAT WAS THE LOWER COURT RULING?


86 posted on 06/26/2013 7:29:03 AM PDT by Doctor 2Brains
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To: snarkytart

I can’t think to save my life today...

Not no jurisdiction - no standing. Decision just came out.


87 posted on 06/26/2013 7:29:07 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: stars & stripes forever
Acts of GOD: earthquakes, hurricanes, tsunamis, fire, famine, pestilence

maybe a little of this, before all that.

88 posted on 06/26/2013 7:29:16 AM PDT by schm0e ("we are in the midst of a coup.")
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To: listenhillary
Remove the tax incentives with the FairTax, get the government out of paying for health care, end retirement Ponzi schemes, close government schools and there really isn’t much left to fight about.

Boy I hate to sound like a magic elixir salesmen, but Steve Forbes was right with the Flat Tax ( and ergo Flat Tax vs. Fair on the House floor is fine with me ).

My chance run in with the Hawaiian guy and this case from Canada and the inheritance screams for a new tax code, Inheritance taxes were also an issue for the Hawaiian dude if my memory is correct..

89 posted on 06/26/2013 7:29:22 AM PDT by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Weird breakdown in the prop 8 case, Majority - Roberts, Scalia, Ginsburg, Breyer and Kagan.

Dissent - Thomas, Alito, Kennedy, Sotamayor

Basically tossed the case for lack of standing, I guess the good news is their is no national right to gay marriage as some feared, or even forcing gay marriage on the 9 states with civil unions. Only applies to California.

90 posted on 06/26/2013 7:29:46 AM PDT by apillar
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To: 2nd Amendment

But Fedgov says it’s OK now ;)

Tea, I guess you’re right. I am kinda attached to the whole hetro thing anyway.


91 posted on 06/26/2013 7:29:51 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Doctor 2Brains
I heard the lower court ruling on Prop 8 would stand. WHAT WAS THE LOWER COURT RULING?

Prop 8 was struck down. To be clear, the lower court ruling stands only with regard to California, not other states that define marriage as one man-one woman.

92 posted on 06/26/2013 7:30:13 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: midnightcat

No, if they can file jointly instead of separately, it would in most cases be a tax savings at the expense of the American people, who seem to know nothing much at all from their poor-quality education.


93 posted on 06/26/2013 7:30:19 AM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Theodore R.

Yes and you have friends getting “married”, straight people who had no desire to be married, getting “married” to they can cheat on taxes. Kennedy has got to be the dumbest SOB that ever walked the face of the earth. What a joke this country has became.


94 posted on 06/26/2013 7:30:32 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: The Sons of Liberty

I guess when Obama said he was “disappointed” about the voting law ruling, that was code to his sycophants on the High Court that their bonuses might be in jeopardy if they didn’t shape up.


95 posted on 06/26/2013 7:30:40 AM PDT by schm0e ("we are in the midst of a coup.")
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Why am I in this basket, and why is it so hot in here?


96 posted on 06/26/2013 7:30:48 AM PDT by LambSlave
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Isn't that special...?
97 posted on 06/26/2013 7:31:10 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Red Badger

“Now, how many ‘fake marriages’ will be done just to avoid INCOME TAXES?.....................”

99%. Like I just said Kennedy is moron.


98 posted on 06/26/2013 7:31:47 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: ThomasMore

We don’t deserve forgiveness and shouldn’t expect any.


99 posted on 06/26/2013 7:31:55 AM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: exit82

And as usual they won because the damn GOP refused to stand up for traditional America.

Eventually even the most blinded sycophant has to see it.


100 posted on 06/26/2013 7:32:09 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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