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Snowden Possibly to Remain in Russia - WikiLeaks
RIA Novost ^ | 06/26/2013 | Bobby Yip

Posted on 06/25/2013 11:34:45 PM PDT by TexGrill

MOSCOW, June 26 (RIA Novosti) - The whistleblowing organization WikiLeaks said on its Twitter feed on Wednesday that former CIA employee Edward Snowden, wanted by the United States for leaking state secrets, may be permanently stuck in Russia.

“Cancelling Snowden's passport and bullying intermediary countries may keep Snowden permanently in Russia,” WikiLeaks said on its Twitter feed, but did not specify the names of intermediary countries.

The United States has issued a warrant for Snowden’s arrest on charges of leaking details of a US surveillance program and cancelled his US passport, which Washington says should prevent him from traveling internationally.

Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday that Snowden, whose whereabouts had been the subject of international speculation for the past two days, was in the transit area of a Moscow airport.

(Excerpt) Read more at en.rian.ru ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: benghazi; edwardsnowden; fastandfurious; impeachnow; irs; nsa; russiaobama; snowden
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Putin punks Barry again. Here's the low-down. Obummer revokes Snowden's passport while he's en-route from Hong Kong to Moscow. No valid passport so Snowden must stay at airport transit. Barry sends extradition papers to Russia charging that Snowden spies for China and Russia. So Putin must keep Snowden at the airport to prove he ain't a spy for Kremlin. Since Beijing and Moscow deny spy allegations they can't permit Snowden to get extradited unless Barry provides a burden of proof these charges are true. Meanwhile, Obummer refuses to disclose additional evidence on Snowden since they only have circumstantial evidence and nothing else. So in reality it's Barry goofy actions that are the sole reason Putin can't allow Snowden to be extradited to the US. Meanwhile, Snowden can't apply for a Russian visa without a valid passport. Barry is a legal dumbass, so what law school did he graduate from?
1 posted on 06/25/2013 11:34:46 PM PDT by TexGrill
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To: TexGrill

I think Putin can still give citizenship unilaterally, or the Russian Duma can.


2 posted on 06/25/2013 11:44:59 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jonty30

But Barry and McCainer are claiming that Russia is helping Snowden to spy. So if they provide him with citizenship then that could be used against Snowden and Russia.


3 posted on 06/25/2013 11:48:49 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: Jonty30

I copied and pasted 2 readers’ comments from the Moscow Times:

RetiredG
I wonder what Mr. Putin would do or say if the tables were turned and it was a Russian who had stolen and published some Russian intelligence and had landed in the USA?

disraeli
And if so, do you think the US would just hand over to Russia such a person?


4 posted on 06/25/2013 11:49:55 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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Edvard Snowdensky.


5 posted on 06/25/2013 11:50:57 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: TexGrill

If Iran possessing nukes is not enough for Obama to go to war, Russia unilaterally giving citizenship will not do it either.

After a few weeks, Putin could claim to want to put the issue to rest and make Snowden a citizen.


6 posted on 06/25/2013 11:51:17 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: TexGrill

The US, under Obama, would do just that. Obama gave the doctor, who led to Osama, to the Pakistani’s without an argument.


7 posted on 06/25/2013 11:52:29 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: TexGrill
El Moslemo is not amused.



8 posted on 06/25/2013 11:59:29 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: TexGrill

It’s more than Obama’s technical proceedures that are the problem here. Russia does not extradite political criminals and has no extradition treaty with the USA. Even if Obama provided some wonderfully-written, and proof-laden smoking gun of law breaking, Putin is under no obligation of any kind to extradite him. Thank God he also has the stones to give Obama the finger and just say Nyet.

Snowden only revealed to the American people that we were the targets of a massive internal spying effort. Revealing treason to the people is not treason.

To believe Snowden should be prosecuted, you must believe that domestic spying, intercepting all American communications, NDAA, secret programs administered by secret courts, and secret trials that do not need warrants,, is all somehow “American”.

I remember the old days, when pilots fled the atheistic socialist USSR to find freedom of conscience in the USA. Today, the opposite is often happening. Something I never thought I’d see.


9 posted on 06/25/2013 11:59:48 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Jonty30

Obama gave the doctor, who led to Osama, to the Pakistani’s without an argument.


That’s so very wrong. But it’s typical of Obama.


10 posted on 06/26/2013 12:00:38 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: TexGrill

Maybe Putin will give him his own TV show.


11 posted on 06/26/2013 12:01:00 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Jonty30

That’s a good point. But here’s the difference. Iran could wipe out hundreds of millions of Americans, but since Obummer’s got Prism, he would get the heads up and he could hide in a nuke shelter. He could then appoint himself President of the US for the rest of his life. However, Snowden could leak some damaging ino. on Obummer that might cause his popularity ratings to plunge. Barry doesn’t care if millions of Christian Americans die since he’s safe, but Snowden leaks could cause harm to his messiah reputation. Fortunately, Barry’s a coward and he’s not gonna wage a war on an army that kick his ass. Russian Bears vs. American Queers. Who do you think will win that battle?


12 posted on 06/26/2013 12:01:39 AM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: DesertRhino

Very well said.


13 posted on 06/26/2013 12:03:12 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: TexGrill

Charges were filed against Snowden on June 14th - why didn’t they evoke his passport at that time? I can’t think of an ulterior motive but I’m pretty sure there is one.


14 posted on 06/26/2013 12:03:32 AM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: TexGrill

“Meanwhile, Snowden can’t apply for a Russian visa without a valid passport.”

You can’t be serious. If he applies for a Russian Visa, that the Russians would somehow feel constrained and foiled again,,,,simply by DC revoking his passport? Imagine someone requesting political asylum here. Would we even pause because their home government revoked the validity of their passport?

No way.


15 posted on 06/26/2013 12:06:36 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: bronxville

Barry’s incompetence in action. His goofball aides filed the charges but it took them a few days to figure out that they should revoke Snowden’s passport too. It’s making me wonder if Barry ever received a valid law license.


16 posted on 06/26/2013 12:07:05 AM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: TexGrill

You are right:

The new super bunker under the White House complex is like a security blanket to Obama. He figures he’ll be safe no matter what.


17 posted on 06/26/2013 12:07:41 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: TexGrill

seeking freedom in russia- wow-


18 posted on 06/26/2013 12:10:05 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: TexGrill

It’s making me wonder if Barry ever received a valid law license.


He has no regard for the rule of law or the Constitution. Any license be damned.


19 posted on 06/26/2013 12:11:02 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: DesertRhino

But Barry’s claiming Russia helped Snowden spy. If they granted him political asylum it would appear as if these spy allegations might be true. So it would be more foolish to grant him asylum while these charges are on file, but to return Snowden to the US would also appear as an admission of guilt too. So it’s best for him to remain in the transit section of the airport, perhaps for the rest of his life.


20 posted on 06/26/2013 12:12:50 AM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: TexGrill

WTF ever.

I don’t care if he sun bathes on a beach in the Bahamas.

FREE ERIC SNOWJOB!!!


21 posted on 06/26/2013 12:14:58 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: TexGrill

Seemingly small matters can be the spark that sets the world on fire.

A long time ago a penniless young Serb shot an Austrian archduke and his wife. Because of a web of alliances and the hurt feelings and pride of a few stupid heads of state WW1 began.

So Russia refuses to extradite Snowden to the USSA. Zero has his feelings and pride hurt. Zero has a tantrum and lashes out at Putin by meddling in Syria in some childish manner. Putin gets pissed off and quickly sends the S-300 missile systems to Syria... possibly shuttling them there quickly using a few Antonov cargo jets. This results in US fighters going down trying to maintain a no-fly zone.

It could happen.... foolishness of this sort has happened before.


22 posted on 06/26/2013 12:15:11 AM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: TexGrill

If the NSA can revoke passports from US citzens for tardy tax backpayers surely they can revoke one from a double agent. (law was passed by the senate last year)


23 posted on 06/26/2013 12:15:34 AM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: TexGrill

Oh! Well, I have a question to those poster at Moscow Times:

“Just what, exactly, has Private Snowjob stolen and/or revealed that is of any consequence?

Nothing, Nada, Zip, Bupkus, Blato, Boring...

Snowjob is a symptom, the government is the disease.

You gonna treat the symptom and hope the disease doesn’t waste you?

Me?

Excise the boil.


24 posted on 06/26/2013 12:17:52 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: TexGrill

Russia has several options, from granting political asylum or citizenship to helping Snowden to negotiate asylum or citizenship elsewhere, and providing transportation under diplomatic cover to whichever country wanted him. Putin could fly him there himself, on the Russian equivalent of ‘Air Force One.’


25 posted on 06/26/2013 12:19:57 AM PDT by sourcery (If true=false, then there would be no constraints on what is possible. Hence, the world exists.)
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To: Vendome

Yup, lance that hideous boil!


26 posted on 06/26/2013 12:20:11 AM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: Bobalu

That’s a good point too. Sadly, if WWIII emerges, Bathouse Barry will be partying it up with his bunker butt buddies in the White House nuke shelter. It would be like the time Nero plays the fiddle while Rome burns. If re-incarnation does exist, Obummer has some remarkable similarities. They were both flaming homos and Nero often participated in gay marriages at his palace with his male lovers. Sometimes Nero would play the bride.


27 posted on 06/26/2013 12:22:09 AM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: TexGrill

That’s silly. Obama “claiming” something is ridiculous as a standard of the seriousness with which it must be handled. As for living forever in an airport, the Russians are currently big on common sense. Like no new mosques building in Moscow, a ban on homosexual propaganda, no adoptions to countries that allow gays to adopt.

They would have no problem whatsoever granting asylum for humanitarian reasons, and then allowing Snowden to release more info on how the NSA (US Military) is spying domestically like the Stasi. As for the accusation that they are behind the “spy” allegations. Snowden has been revealing that WE are the targets of the snooping.

He’ll stay there and find a nice woman, and start writing is my guess. This might get fun.


28 posted on 06/26/2013 12:22:15 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: TexGrill

Putin has a dark past but he is going to be loved by free people all over the world in the end if he keeps this up.


29 posted on 06/26/2013 12:22:40 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: DesertRhino

I’m certain Snowden will still get the royal treatment from Russia, but at the same time they could claim they are following legal procedures in regards to the asylum request. That way they can have their cake and eat it too. Meanwhile it makes Barry look like a global bully. Barry’s getting played big time.


30 posted on 06/26/2013 12:25:34 AM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: TexGrill

There is a REASON team 0bama ‘forgot’ to put Snowden’s name on the Interpol list, FAILING to revoke his Passport: 0bama is in on this wholesale giveaway of America’s national security and the outing of the NSA, while pretending that he’s not. ‘False flag’ people!!!


31 posted on 06/26/2013 12:25:56 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: TexGrill

F-L-E-X-I-B-I-L-T-Y-!


32 posted on 06/26/2013 12:26:57 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: bronxville

Charges were filed against Snowden on June 14th - why didn’t they evoke his passport at that time? I can’t think of an ulterior motive but I’m pretty sure there is one.

that’s an easy one.
everything this administration does is either to make them look good or more dismantling of a democratic America.
because of that, things are going to get mish mashed.


33 posted on 06/26/2013 12:27:32 AM PDT by willywill
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To: CivilWarBrewing

I thought about the false flag potential too until I realized the goofiness of some of Barry’s operatives in Beijing. Some of these folks I met are shining examples of ‘The Three Stooges.’ Most of them can’t keep their mouths’ shut for more than 10 seconds. I called them the ‘Gossip Girls.’ I really thought they were funny until I discovered last year they knew how to hack into my emails and even told me so. Then I realized they’re bozos but also dangerous.


34 posted on 06/26/2013 12:33:01 AM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: TexGrill

Putin today on it. He sounds like he couldn’t care less about how it appears.

“He dismissed American criticisms that Russia is helping Snowden as “ravings and rubbish,” according to Reuters, and told a news conference in Finland: “I myself would prefer not to deal with these issues. It’s like giving a baby pig a haircut: There’s a lot of squealing, but there’s little wool.”

Demonstrating Barry’s weakness and totalitarianism is all they want.


35 posted on 06/26/2013 12:38:02 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino

It’s a good strategy. The ball is in Russia’s court. By playing it cool, it makes them look more diplomatic than the fake-ass Nobel Peace Prize winner.


36 posted on 06/26/2013 12:40:37 AM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: TexGrill

He may sit forever near the planes of Moscow, like Charlie on the MTA.


37 posted on 06/26/2013 12:45:52 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Jonty30
I think Putin can still give citizenship unilaterally, or the Russian Duma can.

If I were Putin, I'd make Snowden a non-extradictable citizen of Russia. And, as for employment, I'd hook him up with my fellow KGB-alum Eugene Kaspersky, of consumer anti-virus fame (LOL). The idea: create a Kremlin-funded subsidiary aimed at vacuuming the US dry.

Tour of Kaspersky Labs [video]

Dmitry Medvedev visits Kaspersky Labs [video]

38 posted on 06/26/2013 12:54:39 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: TexGrill
Russians Refuse to Shake Obama's Hand From 2009
39 posted on 06/26/2013 12:55:21 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Don’t blame them. They know what his hands were doing before meeting them.


40 posted on 06/26/2013 12:59:21 AM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: cynwoody

Good idea


41 posted on 06/26/2013 1:00:40 AM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: TexGrill

So we have Patrick Leahy (told Osama he was monitored by his sattelite phone from Tora Bora), Rockefeller (reading off Xerox machine trash in the Capital) (Turbin Durbin flying to Baghdad with McDermont giving aid to Bag Dad) and Pelosi Signing that Zippy is qualified as Pres__ent and we’re supposed to believe as Zip Pinhead supplies arms to al Quaeda, Snowden said something wrong? With friends like the U.S., I don’t need any Enemas.


42 posted on 06/26/2013 1:02:16 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: TexGrill

So we have Patrick Leahy (told Osama he was monitored by his sattelite phone from Tora Bora), Rockefeller (reading off Xerox machine trash in the Capital) (Turbin Durbin flying to Baghdad with McDermont giving aid to Bag Dad) and Pelosi Signing that Zippy is qualified as Pres__ent and we’re supposed to believe as Zip Pinhead supplies arms to al Quaeda, Snowden said something wrong? With friends like the U.S., I don’t need any Enemas.


43 posted on 06/26/2013 1:02:32 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: TexGrill
Barry’s incompetence in action. His goofball aides filed the charges but it took them a few days to figure out that they should revoke Snowden’s passport too.

Could also be that Barry doesn't really want to catch him. Since, then there would be a trial, and there would be discovery and the legal process, and it would all hang out that Barry is a tyrant.

So, Barry has to make an effort, but the best outcome from his point of view is, Snowden gets away and fades away.

44 posted on 06/26/2013 1:07:58 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Jonty30
Around the world, an estimated 12 million individuals lack nationality or citizenship in any nation. (link)

There are international agreements about dealing with stateless persons, refugees and people who are politically or religiously persecuted.

Obviously, no action of their former government - such as revoking the passport - can hurt the status of the refugee. It can only prove, very clearly, that their old government is really after them, and that the refugee should be accepted.

There is no extradition treaty between the USA and Russia. Why? No time to sign a standard paper? Who dragged their feet? Was it the US Government because it wanted to play the card of Russian emigrants? Hardly any US citizen escapes to Russia - until now, that is - so Russia could not have the same motivation toward the USA. Plenty of Russian criminals left Russia to live comfortably in UK or here, and Russia would like to have them back. Some Chechen warmongers still live in London; don't know how safe they feel, though :-)

Now this lack of extradition treaty hurts Obama. He cannot claw Snowden back. I think Putin will give Snowden another week to try to leave, and after that predictably fails (where'd he go without a passport, short of a direct flight to Equador?) Putin will issue him a temporary visa on humanitarian grounds, which for some obscure reason will never expire. He will get a nice job, of course, and - being young enough to relocate with ease - will just continue living and working. I'm sure he is smart enough to be productive. He is good with foreign languages, as you'd expect. By the way, he is not married - yet.

And besides, it's obvious that if he ever makes it to Equador, how safe will he be in the US backyard? His residence there would be measurable in days; weeks on the outside. But it would be far more difficult for the CIA to remove a person from Russia; he actually has a chance there.

45 posted on 06/26/2013 1:10:22 AM PDT by Greysard
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To: cynwoody

That’s a possibility. Obummer’s only got circumstantial evidence and that won’t hold up in court. Of course, Snowden worries he could get eliminated if he returns to the US to, so he should not return. But here’s the big problem: It’s the GOPers who are cheerleading for Barry on this thing. This was a golden opportunity to blast the Messianic image of Obummer, but Linda Graham had to mess it all up by saying that Snowden is a traitor and Barry should have a right to edit the emails of US citizens.


46 posted on 06/26/2013 1:12:59 AM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: DesertRhino

“Revealing treason to the people is not treason.”

Well said.


47 posted on 06/26/2013 1:22:09 AM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: LyinLibs

Could you define that as patriotism as well?


48 posted on 06/26/2013 1:23:36 AM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: TexGrill
Another political refuge from the totalitarian socialist ends up in Russia. The Russians are giving the Israelis a run for the Leader of the Free World status.


49 posted on 06/26/2013 1:42:25 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: DesertRhino

well said .

Had an argument with another freeper who thought it were right for Kerry and bozo to give threats and they wanted Snowden charged because in their view he worked for China,


50 posted on 06/26/2013 1:53:06 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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