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To: Democrat_media; DoughtyOne

DoughtyOne is also one of my favourite FReepers. God bless him.


33 posted on 06/24/2013 3:05:56 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Democrat_media; Syncro; trisham
Thank you for all the comments.  I don't care if they're good or bad.  I don't really matter much in the overall scheme of things.

What does matter is the health and good standing of our republic.  To that end, it matters a great deal what our heros stand for, and how clear it is what they stand for.

I have never ducked a certain individual's threads.  I merely leave their supporters alone most of the time.  I still think it is healthy to raise issues from time to time, asking folks to do some soul-searching.  About ten days ago, I entered two threads for the first time this year, holding people's feet to the fire.  That is my job.  It is supposed to be every Conservative's job.

At times it is said that I attack our own more than I attack Obama.  After reading 20,000 to 1 complaints against Obama here, perhaps some will understand why I don't believe another voice is needed on that topic.  Some won't.

At times it is said I am too hard on our own.  It is our own that will be the only people who fight back against people like Obama.  They must be sound, or they do us no favors by fronting for our beliefs.  We have seen all too many of them actually willing to push Leftist legislation.  It is NOT my duty to ignore this, and be still in the presence of yet another person who claims to believe as we do, while I remain unconvinced of it.

My recent comments about a certain political figure addressed their last known stance on Undocumented Democrats, their legal residency, pathway to citizenship, and the ability to work here.  Specicially I stated I didn't see why they would object to the current immigration bill winding it's way through Congress, because their last known statements seemed to mirror this bill in a number of ways.  I made these comment prior to this figure saying they don't support the current bill.  And while what they have said does comfort me, it causes me to be perplexed none the less.

Folks, it is my duty to stand up for what is right.  It is also my duty to make sure as many people as possible are subjected to reasoned thought that may go against the current and therefore must be heard. It is vitally important that people with a voice explain in detail what good policy is.  If I had the high visibility that certain people who are popular here have, it would be even more important for me to get "truth" out.

Enter into this situation a person who has favored instant legalization through registration, a pathway to citizenship, and work permits.  I can hear this person say it with my own ears, if I want to.  And yet, this person has now stated they don't support the current immigration bill.

If my policy had been one thing, and then it became another thing, wouldn't it be my duty to explain why?  Wouldn't it be best for my followers and others to be able to follow what line of reasoning led to this objection, change of direction, or non-change of direction?

How would I motivate others to change their minds and follow my lead, if I didn't explain what transition took place for me?

This is all I have been saying since this person came out and objected to the current immigration bill.  Why?  What has changed?

I want to know if this is akin to Romney saying he doesn't support Obamacare and wants to replace it with his own plan.  I don't want someone I support saying they don't like this immigration bill, and want to replace it with a better one of their own.  What we have on the books right now, is sound and enforcable.  We just need to do it.

So Conservatives, in conclusion I would only ask that you hold our leaders feet the fire in the same manner you hold mine to that fire.

I will always attempt to be as frank and honest with you as I can.  I will leave no doubt where I stand.  I will try to be fare to our candidates.  I only aske them to be fare with us.

Where do you stand on undocumented democrats?
Do you still support instant legalization through registration?
Do you still support a pathway?
Do you still support them remaining here and working?

If the answers to all these are yes, or even if they are not, plase explain with enough clarity that nobody will wonder where you stand with regard to these people, and the American people you wish to represent.

We have 40 million U. S. Citizens out of work.  Is there any compassion for them?

Is it compassionate to U. S. Citizens to countenance a fix to help undocumented democrats, before fixing what ails us first?

I am tired.  I have been hawking this issue for 20 years.  I've seen it gamed every which way it could be.

It's all very simple really.

Do we wish to remain a sovereign republic, or do we wish to simply give up and hand the keys to it over to foreign nationals?

Clarity is not our enemy folks.  It's the last gasp of true loyalists to this nation.

Are you with me Sarah?  I'd like to know.
37 posted on 06/24/2013 4:09:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Kennedy: Today I am a Berliner / Reagan: Gorbachev tear down this wall / Obama: I can't read this...)
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