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IRS sent tens of millions in refunds to illegal aliens in Atlanta
American Thinker ^ | 06/23/2013 | Silvio Canto Jr.

Posted on 06/23/2013 12:21:29 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

This is one of those stories that you have to read and check twice to make sure it's not some delayed April Fools Day joke.

Guess what government agency needs a little "mail room quality control"?  or what agency doesn't seem to care just how much they spend on postage?

The answer is the IRS, the "Star Trek" or "line dancing IRS"!

Here is the story:  The IRS mailed 23,994 refund checks to the same address in Atlanta.

Wonder what the neighborhood mail man said about that?  Did he notice a heavier bag or a stuffed mail box?  Did he bring it to the attention of his supervisor?  What did the IRS mail room do when thousands of "return to sender" letters came from the same address?

Frankly, does anyone care?

The story gets better, if that's possible:  The IRS sent 11,284 refunds to a 2nd address.....3,608 to a 3rd and 2,386 to a fourth address.  All of the checks were refunds for illegal aliens.

At some point, the IRS will have to come clean and admit that there are some real operational problems.  Otherwise, the IRS will continue to lose support among those who write checks payable to the IRS every year.


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KEYWORDS: atlanta; benghazi; fastandfurious; holderrico; illegal; impeachnow; irs; irsrico; obamarico; postofficerico
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1 posted on 06/23/2013 12:21:29 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Wonder what the neighborhood mail man said about that?

He din't say nuttin. He be cashin them checks foe hisself.

2 posted on 06/23/2013 12:23:22 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I guarantee they didn’t go to illegals, at least not directly. I’d say its far more likely that the money went to groups like the SEIU where the illegals might get a cut but the bulk went into something else like the Obama campaign.

In fact I doubt any actual paper checks were delivered. That would raise too many eyebrows.


3 posted on 06/23/2013 12:25:28 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

bingo!


4 posted on 06/23/2013 12:26:35 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is absolutely impossible to believe that the IRS’ systems don’t have rules in place to stop and flag the third or fourth return at one address. How much money do they spend on IT?

Of course, they’d have to want to stop it, which isn’t the case.


5 posted on 06/23/2013 12:27:15 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

What was the address? What were the names? This smells of fraud. Some one, maybe many someones, need to go to jail.


6 posted on 06/23/2013 12:28:21 PM PDT by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: cripplecreek

This should be easy enough to trace if anyone in Congress who can’t be blackmailed will do it.


7 posted on 06/23/2013 12:28:32 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Cracker Barrel is racist and I demand that they change their name.)
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To: VietVet

I agree, if we find an actual street number it will tell us a lot more.


8 posted on 06/23/2013 12:30:01 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: VietVet

http://www.treasury.gov/tigta/auditreports/2012reports/201242081fr.pdf

The Table of Contents of the Gummint Report is informative:

Background
.......................................................................................................... Page 1
Results of Review
............................................................................................... Page 6
Management Has Created an Environment Which
Discourages Employees From Detecting Fraudulent
Applications .................................................................................................. Page 7
Recommendations 1 through 3:
......................................... Page 11
Management Has Eliminated Processes Used to Identify
Questionable Individual Taxpaye
r Identification Number
Application Patterns and Schemes ................................................................ Page 12
Recommendations 4 through 6:
......................................... Page 21
Processes Are Not Adequate to Verify Each Applicant’s
Identity and Foreign Status ........................................................................... Page 21
Recommendations 7 through 9:
......................................... Page 30
Appendices
Appendix I – Detailed Objective,
Scope, and Methodology ........................ Page 31
Appendix II – Major Contributors
to This Report ........................................ Page 37
Appendix III – Report Distribution List ....................................................... Page 38
Appendix IV – Form W-7,
Application for IRS
Individual
Taxpayer Identification
................................................................................. Page 39
Appendix V – Management’s Response to the Draft Report ....................... Page 40


9 posted on 06/23/2013 12:38:17 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Has ANY of this hit the MSM yet?

Key section in report:

Management Has Eliminated Processes Used to Identify Questionable Individual Taxpayer Identification Number
Application Patterns and Schemes ................................................................ Page 12

http://www.treasury.gov/tigta/auditreports/2012reports/201242081fr.pdf


10 posted on 06/23/2013 12:40:28 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: SeekAndFind
There are so many ways this sort of thing can be avoided ~ and yet they did it!

This reminds me of the days when IRS seemed unable to presort their mail to qualify for the lower rates they were paying.

No one had looked at their mailing operations for a good dozen years. And, it's been about that long since I looked at them myself.

This is a low dollar volume mail sender ~ as they eased out of mailing you 1040 forms with instruction books each year they eased out of having any concern at all for what was going on in the mail.

By now some post office guy at a regional center has gone out to talk to them.

So, stop and think of the problem you face in dealing with this problem. You're a government employee at a grade level 2 or 3 below that of the folks you are going to tell how to fix their business. They have access to the guts of IRS and if they think you misspeak they will drop a dime on you.

You may have heard the stories of the last guy before me to do any kind of audit on IRS mailing practices, and he did or said something wrong ~ think he had a small business ~ and he went on the harrassment list. They hounded that poor man out of his job ~ well, them and his boss who was an AM General retread ~ now conveniently dead so he'll never talk ~ but IRS has their ways!

The way to deal with this is go all the way to the top of the food chain ~ the Treasury Secretary ~ no one less. Anyone complaining about this is wasting their time piddling with the flunkies. IRS' operating budget is so hedged in with laws and constraints there's probably no one who can spend a dime to fix it EXCEPT for the Secretary.

The Treasury guys won't like it but they actually OWN/RENT (With GSA) the oprations centers where this mail is generated and sorted. If they were presorting it they had about 500 letters per tray, which would give them 50 trays. THEY KNEW something was funny. They wouldn't get that much mail for the largest apartment complex in the United States!

So, yes, it can all be fixed with programs at the point of the printing operation but it can also be fixed by finding the inside guy who told his buds running this scam where there'd be a good address to use to receive this stuff. He was watching mail prep, and probably loading trays on racks!

MY considered opinion is it was an inside job by a gang.

That was enabled by mismanagement and serious inattention.

11 posted on 06/23/2013 12:41:30 PM PDT by muawiyah (Get your RED (state) Arm Bands ~)
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To: cripplecreek

Sounds an awful lot like racketeering and money laundering.


12 posted on 06/23/2013 12:47:10 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Right Wing Assault
WOW! "IRS management disbanded the Questionable Identification Detection Team but did not put in place similar adequate processes to identify schemes and detect trends that could indicate fraud" ~ but to make this work they needed a confederate on the dock loading mail trays ~ or one further up the line who could drop some code into the system to segregate the refund mailings for dispatch over a period of time.

At a minimum these guys SORT all their mail in sequence and then make the required breaks ~ electronically before it's printed.

This is a sophisticated scheme involving a data center person, a management analyst somewhere in Treasury Department, and a guy in the mail room!

13 posted on 06/23/2013 12:49:06 PM PDT by muawiyah (Get your RED (state) Arm Bands ~)
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To: Right Wing Assault

That’s it.... I am going to get an Atlanta mailing address.

My new name is Jose Jimenez.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncBSOyte6lA


14 posted on 06/23/2013 1:03:57 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~ I drink good wine, listen to good music and dream good dreams.)
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To: cripplecreek
"I guarantee they didn’t go to illegals, at least not directly. I’d say its far more likely that the money went to groups like the SEIU where the illegals might get a cut but the bulk went into something else like the Obama campaign."

Some version of that would be my bet, too. This is government money laundering back into Rat hands and their proxies.

15 posted on 06/23/2013 1:04:51 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: muawiyah
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16 posted on 06/23/2013 1:17:55 PM PDT by jimsin
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To: Right Wing Assault
Management Has Created an Environment Which Discourages Employees From Detecting Fraudulent Applications

Translation: there are Democrat front groups which are getting truckloads of money from tax fraud like this.

17 posted on 06/23/2013 1:30:26 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If he be black he gets a get out of jail free card


18 posted on 06/23/2013 2:01:53 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (Yesterdays conspiracies are todays truths)
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To: jimsin

Hopefully, Anne will not be pushing Chris Christy for potus like she did Mitt Romney.


19 posted on 06/23/2013 2:09:30 PM PDT by make no mistake
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To: SeekAndFind

The IRS is ready to manage healthcare.


20 posted on 06/23/2013 2:10:26 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 The land of entitlement for the 51% crowd.)
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