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Rand Paul to Vote Against Gang of Eight's Immigration Bill
National Review ^ | June 23, 2013 | Eliana Johnson

Posted on 06/23/2013 9:36:26 AM PDT by VitacoreVision

National Review:
Rand Paul: I’m a ‘No’ On Gang of Eight Bill

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Rand Paul: I'm a 'No' on Gang of Eight Bill


Rand Paul announced on Sunday that he will vote against the Gang of Eight’s immigration bill because it does not sufficiently secure the Southern border.

“I’m like most conservatives in the country in that I think reform should be dependent on border security first,” Paul said, noting that he introduced a bill that was voted down that would have given Congress that power to vote on whether the border is in fact secure. “To me what really tells me that they’re serious would be letting Congress vote on whether the border is secure. If the people in the country want to be assured that we will not get another ten million people to come here illegally over the next decade, they have to believe that they get a vote through their Congress. If this is a done deal once the bill is over…I don’t think we’ll really get a truly secure border.”

The Senate this week will vote on both the Corker-Hoeven amendment, a last-minute attempt by Republicans to strengthen the border-security measures in the Gang of Eight’s bill, and the Gang’s bill itself.

Paul, an advocate of immigration reform, went on to say that the bill will undoubtedly pass the Senate, but that it’s “dead on arrival” in the Republican-controlled House.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; gangofeight; immigration; randpaul; randsconcerntrolls
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1 posted on 06/23/2013 9:36:26 AM PDT by VitacoreVision
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To: VitacoreVision

2016 must be on his mind. He was sending out feelers the last couple weeks that made me think he was going to support this bill.


2 posted on 06/23/2013 9:38:50 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: VitacoreVision

Looks like in this instance the House woke up.


3 posted on 06/23/2013 9:41:36 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: VitacoreVision

I don’t know if this all just Kabuki theater. They have the votes to pass it, so some Senators are allowed to vote against it to appease their constituents. Maybe, Rand Paul is voting against this bill on principle and the aforementioned political calculus was never taken into consideration. I would like to give him the benefit of the doubt, but I am growing cynical about things.


4 posted on 06/23/2013 9:43:14 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: VitacoreVision

Good


5 posted on 06/23/2013 9:43:41 AM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: VitacoreVision

Good news. Rand is back in our zone.


6 posted on 06/23/2013 9:44:30 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: VitacoreVision

Excellent!


7 posted on 06/23/2013 9:47:02 AM PDT by boycott
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To: VitacoreVision

I’m glad to hear SOMEONE will vote against it. But Jeff Sessions has warned us what will happen when it reaches the House: a more acceptable bill will be passed, and then it will go into conference with the Senate, where it will be gutted and a version acceptable to the Democrats will be written. Border security sometime in the nonspecific future, amnesty loopholes big enough to drive a truck through, 30 million new citizens who will drain our economy and vote Democrat.


8 posted on 06/23/2013 9:47:19 AM PDT by American Quilter (I believe the Benghazi whistleblowers.)
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To: dowcaet

Paul has always been border security first and no new path to citizenship. Liars have misstated his position on illegal immigration. Go to his web site and read his position for your self, it has not changed since first put up there months and months ago.


9 posted on 06/23/2013 9:48:09 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been offically denied)
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To: Hostage

He never left our side.


10 posted on 06/23/2013 9:48:49 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been offically denied)
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To: VitacoreVision

Rand, it is not the border but the huge increase in immigration and the doubling of the guest worker program that should dictate all Reps be against the bill. It is about JOBS AND THE AMERICAN WORKER.


11 posted on 06/23/2013 9:48:52 AM PDT by kabar
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To: jpsb

Ted Kennedy’s 1964 immigration reform act was a travesty.

Immigration laws do need reform but not the way the dems are writing it.

Rand Paul has been said to favor a pathway to citizenship which requires legalization. His bill to secure the border would have never been enforced by this administration. His playing politics with legalization would lead to 10 million new democrat voters in short order. They would register to vote without proving citizenship. Illegal immigrants will cheat on voting just as they cheated by coming across the border illegally.

Rand doesn’t seem to understand that legalization gives the democrats permanent power for generations.

There should be no legalization until there are mass deportations and the border is secure. Then we’ll talk.


12 posted on 06/23/2013 9:59:07 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: VitacoreVision

Ok, great! If he follows through.


13 posted on 06/23/2013 10:01:28 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: kabar

It’s also about TAXES, AND AMERICAN WELFARE!


14 posted on 06/23/2013 10:03:08 AM PDT by Fireone (Impeach and imprison, NOW! Treason and murder are still crimes.)
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To: VitacoreVision; All

So, tomorrow, he will support it again? Will he be against it on Wednesday?

I do not trust Randmesty

He already voted in favor to bring Rubio-Obama Amnesty to the floor...so he is still Amnesty Liberal.


15 posted on 06/23/2013 10:07:07 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Don't Blame Me For La Raza Rubio....I Voted For Alex Snitker)
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To: VitacoreVision

He played this card. Now they will not let him too close to gain information. They will have their knives out for him.


16 posted on 06/23/2013 10:07:56 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: VitacoreVision

good


17 posted on 06/23/2013 10:11:31 AM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: American Quilter

“30 million new citizens who will drain our economy and vote Democrat.”

Maybe in 20 years...


18 posted on 06/23/2013 10:11:38 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: 3Fingas
I don’t know if this all just Kabuki theater.

It's Kabuki theater. Not just with Paul but with every Republican/Conservative politician, regardless of whether they claim to support or oppose immigration reform.

Exhibit A is the crickets chirping about the fact that the unions - GOVERNMENT UNIONS - that cover the different immigration agencies have come out strongly AGAINST the measure because the agencies don't have the capacity or capability to handle that kind of volume without resorting to rubber stamping applications.

FoxNews article from over a MONTH AGO can be found here

Palinkas says the bill doesn’t address the pressure he claims is put on adjudication officers to rubber stamp applications instead of conducting diligent case reviews. He says it fails to fix the “insurmountable bureaucracy” which often prevents USCIS officers from contacting and coordinating with ICE agents in cases that should have their involvement, and doesn’t do enough to address the problem of student visa overstays.

Not only that, but there's THIS article from Breitbart where the union official says that rubber stamping is already underway.

"These practices ... guarantee that applications will be rubber-stamped for approval, a practice that virtually guarantees widespread fraud and places public safety at risk," Palinkas said in a statement.

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According to the UCCIS, 99.2 percent of applications for final judgment have been approved since April, and nearly 292,000 illegal immigrants have been given temporary legal status. In addition, the agency has only processed 60% of the applications received since April.


But apart from these articles - which hit more than a month ago - I've heard absolutely nothing on the subject. Including from Republican/Conservative politicians who claim to be against immigration reform.

The above is damning. Isn't it? Or am I missing something? Why isn't it front and center in the debate?
19 posted on 06/23/2013 10:11:47 AM PDT by tanknetter
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Accuracy in Media reports that the immigration “reform” bill includes two “slush funds” amounting to $150,000,000 that may be supplemented with additional taxpayer dollars for years to come. These funds would go to “public or private, non-profit organizations such as La Raza, Casa de Maryland, and the American Immigration lawyers Association!
These and other organizations are ethno-centric-—devoted to helping illegal immigrants apply for legal status.

The reform bill not only provides amnesty for illegal immigrants, but for their employers. As the Center for Immigration Studies points out, “Illegal aliens will be rewarded for breaking laws for which American citizens are routinely punished” such as the use of fraudulent Social Security cards, while imposing a $1,000 penalty that “in many cases would be waived. Then they would be issued a new Social Security number without any past bad credit or arrest records.”


20 posted on 06/23/2013 10:12:45 AM PDT by Liz
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