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To: Alas Babylon!
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Watching Graham. He says the border is already militarized and the most secure it has ever been. He's giving the same ole spin that goes back a decade with the other tried-and-failed amnesty bills.

Graham says if/when they pass this bill, they will NEVER need to address 'illegal immigration' again.

[Maybe, because they are giving away everything. Related links below:]

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[Senator] Sessions: Border Security Amendment Would Not Hire Agents Until 2017

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Corker Amendment Permanently Offers Citizenship to Those Overstaying Their Visas

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Border security proposal gives Napolitano new waivers
10 posted on 06/23/2013 6:16:23 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: TomGuy

Sen. Lee: “Everyone wants immigration reform”

NO WE DON’T!

There’s nothing wrong with immigration NOTHING. But there is a hell of a lot wrong with border enforcement and dealing with the criminal invaders.

They are not citizens and need a good old dose of “cruel and unusual punishment”.


16 posted on 06/23/2013 6:21:52 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATs! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: TomGuy

Given the fact that at least 40 percent of all illegals are visa-violators (overstaying visas), the “border security” argument is also a bit of a red herring as waged on our side.

To wit: We could “win” that argument and have a foolproof border—but if millions of new “limited” guest worker programs are started, with visas violated at the same rate as today, it would make no difference.

I want a secure border too but without deportations it would matter not.


24 posted on 06/23/2013 6:27:58 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: TomGuy
Watching Graham. He says the border is already militarized and the most secure it has ever been.

You gotta wonder what could possibly motivate such a statement from a Senator who is up for reelection in a supposed conservative state like SC.

On the surface it seems almost self-destructive to advocate 20-30 million more illegals be made legal and vote for the the other side giving them a near permanent majority assuring we don't win future elections,WTH! Especially in a state that struggles as much as SC does.

This is why I think there has to be much more to the story than we are being shown.

I'm thinking bribery,payoffs, graph, corruption,on a massive scale that has been going on for a while.

Think about it nothing else makes any sense.

53 posted on 06/23/2013 6:49:51 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: TomGuy
The border issue is really a distraction. We could hermetically seal the border and this would still be a disaster. The real problem is the increase in legal immigration, 47 million over 10 years vice the "normal" intake of 14 million and a doubling of guest workers--a 1.6 million increase the first year and 700,000 thereafter.

This is going to depress wages and increase unemployment for Americans. The Dems get what they want--amnesty-- and the Reps get their guest workers. They are trying to fool the public by making the issue the border.

59 posted on 06/23/2013 6:54:59 AM PDT by kabar
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To: TomGuy
Graham says if/when they pass this bill, they will NEVER need to address 'illegal immigration' again.

I call BS. deja vu.

Grahamesty is sounding exactly like Ted Swimmer in 1986.

1986: Amnesty In the campaign for the 1986 amnesty law, Kennedy predicted that the law would grant citizenship to no more than 1.3 million people. “We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnesty bill like this,” he said.

I suppose the open border crowd would respond by saying "Well this bill is not like that one." IT IS WORSE AND WILL GUARANTEE AZTLAN SUCESS.
108 posted on 06/23/2013 8:17:10 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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