Is Barack Hussein Obama the One?
Posted on 06/22/2013 1:33:56 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Model S is Car and Drivers 2013 Car of the Year.
I want one.
I can’t speak of the stock’s price but I know one thing..the Tesla vehicle I looked at,sat in,and discussed with a salesman (they have a “store” at a mall that I frequent) isn’t worth half of the $80K sticker price that I was quoted.
RE: isn’t worth half of the $80K sticker price that I was quoted.
Don’t you get a rebate from Uncle Sam?
The profit in the Tesla S is from subsidies and carbon credits, iirc.
simple answer is NO
The thing about Tesla that is intriguing is where there is value in the company. It sounds like the innovation comes from the computer management of the battery power. The rest of their vehicle production uses a lot of very solid venders. It doesn’t mean they will succeed, but they are a far cry from a Chevy Volt or a Fiskar. (I don’t own any Tesla stock)
Until they can get a battery with almost no chance of exploding, or catching fire, after thousands of recharges, electric cars are going nowhere.
Also, cold weather performance is an issue. I don’t think that a 200 mile range is sufficient, because when its -40C out, that battery will likely be dead in 8 hours, even if you had charged it and didn’t go anywhere.
Yup, i would take either car you mentioned any day.
“I want one” meaning if i was filthy rich and wanted yet another toy after obtaining an Ariel Atom.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaWoo82zNUA
Tesla is done. Watch it drop from here.
The company is not profitable.
Right now, the big investors want the little guys to jump in on speculation so the big guys can get out.
Buy a government-financed car? I’d sooner walk.
Nice. I need one of those!
“It feels like my brains are being sucked out”. LOL
Tesla’s goal is not to be a mass maker of cars but to sell premium electric vehicles. Says so on page one of their website.
The secondary goal is to serve as a catalyst for the electrification of the automobile. In other words they want mass market auto makers to make compelling electric vehicles.
Tesla has plenty of brand cache and growing.
Tesla received $451M loan from DOE.
FR poster boy Ford received $5.9B in loans from DOE. As in Billions.
Tesla buys off the rack batteries. That is not the proprietary genius. It is in the management of those batteries. That is why MB and Toyota are buying Tesla drivetrains. If it was easy neither Toyota nor MB would buy Tesla drivetrains.
Then their is the 120 volt super charging stations which will mostly be solar powered. You can go from 20% charge to 80% charge in about 22 minutes. Where weather does not permit they will buy power from local utility. Free to buyers of Model S sedan with 85kwh battery $2k option for 60kwh battery Model S. That is the cost to fuel the Model S, forever.
85kwh car has max range of 420 miles if driven at constant 20 mph and minimum of 200 miles if driven like Jeff Gordon in that Pepsi commercial through Death Valley with AC at full crank. AC at full crank reduces mileage by about 16%, about same for gas powered car. Most people will get 250-265 miles in real world driving on full charge.
The 85kwh with free fuel forever is worth every bit of the $80K-$100K price tag when you compare and contrast to MB S Class BMW 7 Series and Audi A8. That is the real competition right now.
Lastly OPEC and Russia HATE TESLA.
BTW
Tesla Model S has virtually zero maintenance.
Rotate tires and change oil in torque converter every 12 years. Change interior air cabin filter every two years.
Electric updates/recalls come through wifi.
Tesla Motors has NO LEGACY COST.
No million of old UAW retirees and their health care benefits.
Is Barack Hussein Obama the One?
Then you have to buy off the EPA in order to be able to dispose of them when the time comes.
battery cars are a fantasy. interposing a third agent between the power plant and the drive train is mechanically inefficient. If you have to have an electric motor, you need on-board power generation, ala LeTorneau, but the question of purpose is still unanswered.
The main goal of battery-electric car seems to be the centralization of motive power. In other words, it's communism on wheels.
The obvious answer is yes, at least to some because the equity trades around that price.
The car sounds like a very desirable car to own considering how that price suits you. It is meaningless when Motor Trend and to a lesser extent Car and Driver tout the car. However, I pay closer attention when Consumer Reports gives the Tesla a near perfect score.
I agree with you. That’s exactly what electric batteries are all about, ensuring people don’t have the ability to really go,anywhere.
The Ariel Atom is even FASTER now.
There are updated vids on youtube.
They are not that SUPER expensive, i just wish i had a spare 30+ grand to spend....
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