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FIGURES. Immigration Bill Waives Criminal Activity for Illegals–But Increases Penalties for Citizens
Gateway Pundit ^ | June 21, 2013 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 06/22/2013 2:30:54 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The new “Gang of 8″ immigration bill would waive criminal activity for illegals but would increase penalties for citizens. S.744 waives a long list of crimes for illegals.

The bill waives felony document fraud and Social Security number fraud for illegal aliens. FAIR US.org reported:


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; congress; gangofeight; gangoftraitors; gangstersof8; gopestablishment; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; johnmccain; lindseygraham; marcorubio; randsconcerntrolls; rino; senate
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is all about merging populations on this continent for the planned North American Union coming down the road.

The one worlders/globalists are just laying the ground work for that.

Can’t let a little thing like National Sovereignty get in the way.


41 posted on 06/22/2013 8:34:43 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Just another protected class to despise.

We all know that once all responsibility is removed for their actions that they will have their hands out all the time. The perfect Democratic voter.

42 posted on 06/22/2013 8:42:01 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bump


43 posted on 06/22/2013 9:12:08 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: SatinDoll

They all know that they are burdening Americans and the economy with this amnesty bill. The police state organizations have declared war, not on Islamists, but on Americans and our constitutional Republic. The government has turned against our allies. With friends like the US government, who needs enemies?


44 posted on 06/22/2013 9:21:13 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Vigilanteman
All that and more - Fox reported this AM that the IRS is supplying them false SS numbers and giving them refunds to boot. One small town of abt 3,000 residents had 600 people at one address all getting refunds ...
45 posted on 06/22/2013 9:30:20 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well it certainly looks like we have left the realm of "rule of law" and entered the realm of "rule of men". The USA is looking a lot like early 30s Germany and that is not good. However there is still a very important election in 2014. Elect enough TEA party candidates and perhaps we can end this (NWO) madness. Linda must go in 2014 (get it done S.C!) Rubio must go in 2016(get it done Fla!) No candidate supporting this insane immigration bill should receive 1 conservative vote. If they are GOP they should be primaried.

This bill is certain to hurt low and middle wage Americans. It simply can not do anything other then depress working ages. It will also increase unemployment at a time of record high unemployment.

The government can not be trusted to enforce our laws. The government promised enforcement in 1986, it never happened. The government promised enforcement in 2007, it never happened. This time government is telling the truth? Lol, but even with enforcement we will (according to BCO) have 10 or 11 million more illegals in 10 years! The time for enforcement is now, the time to discuss what to do about illegals here is after getting enforcement working.

46 posted on 06/22/2013 9:34:10 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been offically denied)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
unequal protection under the law and selective prosecution of the law for starters
47 posted on 06/22/2013 9:50:53 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Maceman

Yes. Equality before the law.


48 posted on 06/22/2013 10:06:59 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: JCBreckenridge
Why on earth would a citizen want to engage in document fraud?

Of course, no law-abiding citizen would.

The point is the fact that the law applies differently to those who broke out law to get here.

49 posted on 06/22/2013 10:14:57 AM PDT by sand88
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To: sand88

I’m not sure this is the best argument to take. Citizens aren’t subject to entry restrictions. The law should treat citizens differently from non-citizens.


50 posted on 06/22/2013 10:27:43 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: jpsb

“Elect enough TEA party candidates...”

And John Boehner will screw them over. He did it in ‘10

Boehner is destroying the Repubs. He helps the Dems at every opportunity.

F&F, AP, IRS, NSA, Benghazi, and Boehner’s #1 priority: AMNESTY. This idiot isn’t even a competent politician, any one of these scandals is political gold & Boehner ignores them all.

I would say he is in a stupor, but that would be a mistake: Boehner willfully screwed over TEA party candidates. He knows exactly what he is doing.

BOEHNER MUST GO.


51 posted on 06/22/2013 10:33:26 AM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: JCBreckenridge

There are people who cannot get a job in finance / banking due to a bankruptcy, or simply cannot get new loans because of bad payment history, so they use a child’s Social Security Number to get a clean credit report.
It’s called financial child abuse.

What is Financial Child Abuse?
http://tamarawilhite.hubpages.com/hub/What-is-Financial-Child-Abuse


52 posted on 06/22/2013 10:34:29 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: tbw2

Perhaps then credit reports shouldn’t be using your social security number.


53 posted on 06/22/2013 10:43:30 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This Amnesty bill will give Amnesty to 30 million illegals and then those Amnestied can bring into the USA 50 million of their relatives back in the 3rd world( chain migration). The democrats plan on 80 million new democrat voters so they can turn the USA into a socialist hell hole.

Call Congress. stop this bill, if you value your job, your country , your life ,or freedom.

This bill is a monstrosity like its author Obama

54 posted on 06/22/2013 10:53:23 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

thanks for a great post


55 posted on 06/22/2013 10:58:48 AM PDT by Wuli (qu)
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To: DaxtonBrown

“It gives illegal lawbreakers a preferred citizenship status. Pure insanity.”

Perhaps it is intended to be a means by which Obama can escape prosecution for his own felonies committed as an illegal alien in the White House.


56 posted on 06/22/2013 1:30:00 PM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Remember the campaign slogan ... Forward! My wife even admitted ... yes ... we are on Fast Forward.


57 posted on 06/22/2013 3:01:09 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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Accuracy in Media reports that the immigration “reform” bill includes two “slush funds” amounting to $150,000,000 that may be supplemented with additional taxpayer dollars for years to come. These funds would go to “public or private, non-profit organizations such as La Raza, Casa de Maryland, and the American Immigration lawyers Association!

These and other organizations are ethno-centric---devoted to helping illegal immigrants apply for legal status.

The reform bill not only provides amnesty for illegal immigrants, but for their employers. As the Center for Immigration Studies points out, “Illegal aliens will be rewarded for breaking laws for which American citizens are routinely punished” such as the use of fraudulent Social Security cards, while imposing a $1,000 penalty that “in many cases would be waived. Then they would be issued a new Social Security number without any past bad credit or arrest records.”

58 posted on 06/22/2013 4:05:13 PM PDT by Liz
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As the conservative Center for Immigration Studies points out, “Illegal aliens will be rewarded for breaking laws for which American citizens are routinely punished” such as the use of fraudulent Social Security cards, while imposing a $1,000 penalty that “in many cases would be waived. Then they would be issued a new Social Security number without any past bad credit or arrest records.”

TALKING POINTS---Just before the IR procedural vote, Judiciary Committee member Sen Grassley offered a simple amendment to the Judiciary Committee considering voting the immigration bill out of commmittee. "The secretary (of homeland security) may not grant registered provisional immigrant status to an alien under this section unless the alien fully discloses to the secretary all the names and Social Security account numbers that the alien has ever used to obtain employment in the United States," said Grassley's amendment.

Grassley's amendment would not have prohibited illegal aliens from being converted into legal aliens just because they had used names and Social Security numbers that did not belong to them. It would only have required that the illegal aliens make the names and numbers they used known to DHS before they could be granted the right to legally live in the United States.

Grassley said, "Congress should not thumb its nose at the millions of Americans who are victims of identity theft, often perpetrated by an undocumented person who steals Social Security numbers to get jobs, govt benefits, driver's licenses and more. This amendment will simply require the person applying for RPI status to disclose any previously used Social Security numbers," said Grassley. "It's the first step to helping clean up the mess that's been created for the victim of identity theft. The amendment also authorizes certain federal agencies, upon receipt of this information, to notify individuals who were the victims."

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ON RECORD AS AIDING AND AETTING FELONIES Ranking member Sen Schumer dismissed Grassley's proposal. "When people are living in undocumented status, there are times, I suppose, when they've made up identities, made up Social Security numbers," Schumer told his Judiciary Committee colleagues. "How are they going to remember all that, and are we going to delay RPI status? "(The) purpose of this bill is to bring people out of the shadows. We all know when they lived in the shadows, they had to forge documents, forge Social Security numbers, et cetera. I just don't see how, when you've lived here 10 years, and you've had many different identities, many different numbers, you're going to remember them all," said Schumer.

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The Senate Judiciary committee defeated Grassley's amendment 8 to 10 on a party-line vote.

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ACTION ALERT Freepers should mobolize locally--get grand juries to begin indicting these Senators for FAILING TO UPHOLD THE LAW AGAINST FELONIES. A few convictions and imprisonment oughta wake up the treasonous Congress. KEEP IN MIND---those elected to office are held to a higher standard of law than we peons....but have never been held to account.

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Majority members----Senate Judiciary Committee Hearing Room
226 Dirksen Senate Office Building Washington, DC:

Patrick Leahy, Dem-Vermont, Chairman
Dianne Feinstein, Dem-California
Chuck Schumer, Dem-New York, ranking member
Dick Durbin, Dem-Illinois
Sheldon Whitehouse, Dem-Rhode Island
Amy Klobuchar, Dem-Minnesota
Al Franken, Dem- Minnesota
Chris Coons,Dem- Delaware
Richard Blumenthal, Dem- Connecticut
Mazie Hirono, Dm-Hawaii

Source: 2013 Congressional Record, Vol. 159, Page S296 to 297

59 posted on 06/22/2013 4:07:08 PM PDT by Liz
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60 posted on 06/22/2013 4:29:06 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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