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Zimmerman Trial Pre-Game Day Analysis
Legal Insurrection ^ | June 21, 2013 | Andrew Branca

Posted on 06/22/2013 2:24:03 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can anyone explain to me why there are only 6 jurors on this case?


21 posted on 06/22/2013 6:31:47 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: jocon307

Florida law — 12 jurors are only provided if it is Murder 1 with the death penalty at stake.


22 posted on 06/22/2013 6:46:31 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Zimmerman's a Hispanic (mixed race) young democrat who killed a young black man ( Trayvon is the son of a former gang member - and two democrats) at an apartment complex surrounded by a chain link fence. (recently gone condo)

This became “BIG NEWS” because the MSM thought they had a middle-class, middle aged, conservative white man as the villain and kunta kinte as the victim - in an upscale 'all white' gated community....

It was all a lie.

Zimmerman's NOT white, not conservative and not middle-aged. Trayvon is not Kunta Kinte. And the 'gated community' is working class...

NBC wanted so badly to express their hatred of middle class conservative whites that they doctored tapes to push their lies.

Young hispanic men shooting young black men is not rare. The media circus is rare...

What's on trial here is the MSM and their hatred of traditional Americans... Which is why the media circus continues...

23 posted on 06/22/2013 6:50:44 AM PDT by GOPJ (... liberal anger - - the privileged wheeze of entitled brats ... Greenfield)
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To: flaglady47

One half way through the prosecutions opening statement the jury will start weeping and sobbing over “poor Trayvon’s” awesome fate. The weeping and sobbing shall continue through the reading of the conviction.


24 posted on 06/22/2013 6:58:56 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s in — the state’s voodoo “experts” are out:

ORDER EXCLUDING THE OPINION TESTIMONY OF MR. OWEN AND DR. REICH

http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0613/order_excluding.pdf


25 posted on 06/22/2013 7:31:38 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

http://www.wesh.com/news/central-florida/trayvon-martin-extended-coverage/judge-in-george-zimmerman-case-to-rule-on-voice-expert-testimony/-/14266478/20658448/-/x3irab/-/index.html


26 posted on 06/22/2013 7:51:52 AM PDT by kanawa (FB...Save George Zimmerman from racial onslaught)
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To: GOPJ

I haven’t seen him referred to as Kunta Kinte
but they certainly have been comparing him to Emmett Till.


27 posted on 06/22/2013 7:54:59 AM PDT by kanawa (FB...Save George Zimmerman from racial onslaught)
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To: Venturer
Anybody know the make-up of the Jury?

Last I heard the jury is 6 women one of whom is a so-called 'minority'.

28 posted on 06/22/2013 8:53:37 AM PDT by Larry381 ("Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.")
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To: Uncle Chip

Thanks Uncle Chip, I’ve been puzzled about that for days!


29 posted on 06/22/2013 10:02:48 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's a railroad to the woodshed.


30 posted on 06/22/2013 10:05:33 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: kanawa

I assume you know blacks and hipanics are often crime victims of each other.... right?

Ever wonder why those stories don’t make national news?

Until conservatives pointed out the slaughter in Chicago, the murders of black children didn’t even make the national news...

What was it about the Zimmerman/Martin story that ‘caught the eye’ of powerful white liberal elites like the folks at NBC who were so enthralled they were willing to doctor tapes for the sake of the meme? Doctored how - you ask?

It has nothing to do with Biden’s ‘ya’all would be in chains’ if it weren’t for us liberal whites - and everything to do with liberal whites wouldn’t be in power without blank anger.


31 posted on 06/22/2013 10:12:40 AM PDT by GOPJ (... liberal anger - - the privileged wheeze of entitled brats ... Greenfield)
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To: Paladin2

When that railroad reaches its destination without Zimmerman on board, it will be Bernie and Angela and Benjamin who will be taken to the woodshed.


32 posted on 06/22/2013 10:30:06 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: 9422WMR
man shooting an unarmed teen, “who could be heard screaming for his life “ in an audio recording.
What I noticed, here in PA, was the statement that Zimmerman was on trial in the murder of Treyvon Martin. No, he’s on trial on charges that his killing of Treyvon Martin was unlawful and constituted murder 2.
Is it the same there as here, that whenever a reporter reports a crime by person(s) unknown, the reports say that “the suspect” did such and such? They are Oh-so-unctious not to say that a named suspect is guilty before trial, to the extent that they say “suspect” when no suspect has been identified.” But then there is the Zimmerman case, and nobody is shy about saying or strongly suggesting that he is guilty.
I do so hope that Zimmerman sues, not only NBC, but the whole lot of them. Name them, “The Associated Press and each of its members” - and sue them for libel. Treble damages under RICO.        
People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices. It is impossible indeed to prevent such meetings, by any law which either could be executed, or would be consistent with liberty and justice. But though the law cannot hinder people of the same trade from sometimes assembling together, it ought to do nothing to facilitate such assemblies; much less to render them necessary. - Adam Smith, Wealth of Nations (Book I, Ch 10)
The AP newswire is a virtual meeting of journalists nationwide. That “meeting” has been going on continually for over a century and a half - plenty of time for it to become “a conspiracy against the public.

33 posted on 06/22/2013 10:51:27 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (“Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: freekitty

The conduct of discovery in this case is atrocious. In any case I’ve been involved with, working with - not as - lawyer(s), if evidence is not submitted by the preset date for close of discovery, it can only be introduced in rebuttal. Discovery is usually closed a month or two before the trial IIRC. So there are few to no surprises at trial. In this case, the prosecutors’ withholding evidence is even worse because if they prevail based on evidence withheld until trial, a man will go to jail for murder. As if his young life hasn’t already been virtually destroyed by this case.


34 posted on 06/22/2013 10:57:34 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA

I agree. I also find withholding evidence is despicable. What is going through this judge’s mind. She is losing her credibility and shouldn’t be on the bench if this is happening.


35 posted on 06/22/2013 5:00:25 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: EDINVA
In any case I’ve been involved with, working with - not as - lawyer(s), if evidence is not submitted by the preset date for close of discovery, it can only be introduced in rebuttal.

If either side fails to disclose in timely fashion evidence which is favorable to it, preventing the side at error from using the evidence is a simple and generally fair remedy. The problem comes when the evidence is unfavorable to the side that fails to disclose it. In that case, the party that eventually disclosed the evidence would prefer that it not be used at all, and thus denying that party use of the evidence would be no remedy at all. I think it's likely that the mobile carrier's tower logs would be consistent with Zimmerman's story and inconsistent with the prosecutors', but to my knowledge despite the fact that such information should have been collected, and the defense has been trying for years to get it, it still doesn't have it.

36 posted on 06/22/2013 7:27:03 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ping.


37 posted on 06/22/2013 7:28:11 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

I don’t think this is how it will go. It seems at least a few of the women on the jury have somewhat conservative and/or practical, rational thinking attitudes. I believe Zimmerman will be acquitted on the basis of the medical evidence and the inability of the prosecution to prove that George did not act in self defense. I could be wrong, but I don’t think I am.


38 posted on 06/23/2013 5:16:43 AM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: flaglady47

Let us hope you are correct. All reports indicate Zimmerman was acting in self defense. It is hard to understand why this matter went to trial given Florida’s “stand your ground” law.


39 posted on 06/23/2013 7:43:07 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: DCBryan1; Eaker; Absolutely Nobama; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ...
You asked for a CWII Ping. Indeed several people have suggested that the Zimmerman trial may be the cause of another round of riots, more widespread than the Rodney King riots. So, here's the ping.


40 posted on 06/24/2013 10:26:18 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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