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U.S. charges Snowden with espionage
WaPo ^ | 6/21/13 | Peter Finn and Sari Horwitz

Posted on 06/21/2013 3:22:17 PM PDT by Nachum

Federal prosecutors have filed a sealed criminal complaint against Edward Snowden, the former National Security Agency contractor who leaked a trove of documents about top-secret surveillance programs, and the United States has asked Hong Kong to detain him on a provisional arrest warrant, according to U.S. officials.

Snowden was charged with espionage, theft and conversion of government property, the officials said.

The complaint was filed in the Eastern District of Virginia, a jurisdiction where Snowden’s former employer, Booz Allen Hamilton, is headquartered, and a district with a long track record in prosecuting cases with national security implications.

A Justice Department spokeswoman declined to comment.

Snowden flew to Hong Kong last month after leaving his job at an NSA facility in Hawaii with a collection of highly classified documents that he acquired while working at the agency as a systems analyst.

The documents, some of which have been published in The Washington Post and Britain’s Guardian newspaper, detailed some of the most secret surveillance operations undertaken by the United States and the United Kingdom, as well as classified legal memos and court orders underpinning the programs in the United States.

The 29-year-old intelligence analyst revealed himself June 9 as the leaker in an interview with the Guardian and said he went to Hong Kong because it provided him the “cultural and legal framework to allow me to work without being immediately detained.”

Snowden subsequently disappeared from public view; it is thought that he is still in the Chinese territory. Hong Kong has its own legislative and legal systems but ultimately answers to Beijing, under the so-called “one country, two systems” arrangement.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: benghazi; castrating0bama; espionage; fastandfurious; impeachnow; irs; obamavoter; snowden; snowdenespionage
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To: Nachum

I really don’t fault him for fleeing, but it is impossible for me to believe he could step foot in communist China without the government t seizing the Intel.


41 posted on 06/21/2013 4:53:15 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Chickensoup; bronxville
Why on earth are you focusing on this non-issue. Mark Steyn and Limbaugh did not go to college.

Scott Walker didn't finish college. Should we write him off too?

42 posted on 06/21/2013 4:54:20 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: bronxville

Correction: Smith - Benghazi was the online gamer and not Stephenson.

CIA website and FBI hacked by LulzSec

From gaming to national security
By Marc Chacksfield June 16th 2011

Hacking collective LulzSec has decided to stop giving online gaming sites a hard time and instead put its efforts into taking down the CIA’s website and the FBI’s phone network.

Yesterday the group managed to DDoS the CIA’s homepage and along with it the FBI’s phone network in Detroit.

As per usual LulzSec kept everyone updated with its hacking shenanigans on Twitter, posting on the site: “Tango down – CIA.Gov- for the lulz.”.

According to reports, it wasn’t just the CIA and the FBI, either - the US Senate’s website was also a target, but the group failed to compromise the site.

Love hack

LulzSec has been extremely busy over the last few weeks, but it has mostly targeted gaming sites. Its Titanic Takeover Tuesday campaign saw the group hack into EVE ONLINE, Minecraft, League of Legends and FinFisher.

Even though LulzSec seems to be infiltrating websites just to show how poor the security is, this latest wave of hacks will have the US government keeping more than a close eye on it.
http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/cia-website-and-fbi-hacked-by-lulzsec-966715

Eve online is where Smith-Benghazi spent a lot of his time. Why is Lulz targeting these specific gaming sites? Do they think or know that they’re be CIA sites?


43 posted on 06/21/2013 4:56:41 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,Â)
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To: swamprebel

They know where he is. They can’t “do” anything about him yet because with the intense media focus and pro-whistleblower sentiment, it would sink them further into the negative.


44 posted on 06/21/2013 4:57:09 PM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be what you might have been.)
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To: sergeantdave

” pass legislation making it a crime to hack Internet accounts”

I’m pretty sure that is already a crime.


45 posted on 06/21/2013 5:01:25 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (President Obama; The Slumlord of the Rentseekers)
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To: Nachum

When will people in the NSA be charged with ILLEGALLY spying on the American people?


46 posted on 06/21/2013 5:01:55 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Nachum

Yet they allowed Chinese into Langley and did not monitor them, resulting in smuggling of info.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2998453/posts

Posted on March 19, 2013 12:42:57 PM EDT by Nachum

On Tuesday’s “Mornings on the Mall” on WMAL-FM in Washington DC, Rep. Frank Wolf (R-VA) revealed that it was the Obama Administration that allowed hundreds of Chinese nationals to work in a sensitive area of NASA’s Langley Research Center. One of the nationals was arrested Monday at Dulles airport as he was trying to leave the country when he failed to disclose all of the electronics he was taking with him.


47 posted on 06/21/2013 5:02:11 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: DManA

so a secret program with secret courts, with secret judges who only hears one side of the case who also uses secret drones and then a secret charge.

Yep that is really open and we’re supposed to trust this out of control party spying Govt


48 posted on 06/21/2013 5:05:46 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Jean S; Chickensoup

Scott Walker was elected by the people. Mark Steyn and Rush Limbaugh were hired by private companies. My father was a self-made man w/ no degrees as were many others in my family. This guy was hired into a government job aka unions who require degrees. IMO, it’s significant. What or who were his contacts inside? And how many others were hired the same way. And this guy didn’t act alone.


49 posted on 06/21/2013 5:05:55 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,Â)
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To: bronxville

who cares about him, it’s what he said what is more dangerous and damaging.

Pointing at him will only take the real issue off the front pages which Obama wants


50 posted on 06/21/2013 5:07:50 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: swamprebel
I don’t buy that the NSA does not know exactly where Snowden is at any given minute

I'm sure that the US Government does not know where in HK a certain man is at any given minute, if that man even half-heartedly attempts to become invisible. HK is a small, but very densely populated place. It's an arcology, for all practical purposes. There are too many ways to get to places and leave them; there are too many people to get lost among.

If necessary, the Chinese police could have him watched and tracked. Probably they do that. But they are local, they know the place, they have authority to go anywhere, and they can effectively access all the information systems to find out what CCTV cameras saw the man, where he was paying with a credit card, what hotel he is registered in. Can you imagine what kind of a spy network the USA would have to deploy essentially overnight just to track one man? If they could, they would have killed him; it would be technically easier than to follow him everywhere, in the crowd. But they don't know where he is. A man can lay low in HK for as long as he cares to, receiving deliveries from any store right at his apartment, and working remotely over the Internet and a few secure (Tor-like) proxies. (A geek's dream.)

51 posted on 06/21/2013 5:08:10 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Greysard

If the feds really wanted to find someone in HK, they could go to the Triad crime families who know where everyone is. They might have to offer something substantial in return, but business is business. If the NSA knows where you and I are now, how can they not know where the most wanted person on their list is right now?


52 posted on 06/21/2013 5:14:08 PM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be what you might have been.)
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To: .30Carbine

A new treaty organization is in the works. Has been, since Carter, and renewed by GHW Bush. President Obama’s approval ratings have never mattered. Much the same, as every other President, since about June 1965.


53 posted on 06/21/2013 5:14:40 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: manc

Yes, I know and totally get your point. I just want to know where he came from and what these online gamers sites are all about. Smith-Benghazi also frequented them.


54 posted on 06/21/2013 5:19:09 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,Â)
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To: bronxville

This guy was hired into a government job aka unions who require degrees. IMO, it’s significant. What or who were his contacts inside? And how many others were hired the same way. And this guy didn’t act alone.

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Friend’s son started doing DoD work after sophomore year hs. He went to college too, but he is best and brightest in his field and they would have taken him anyhow.


55 posted on 06/21/2013 5:22:20 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: Greysard

Interpol - Global Police - has access in HOng Kong.


56 posted on 06/21/2013 5:24:11 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,Â)
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To: HollyB

The smart fellows, are just trying to see, where the “bunnies” run. No biggie, citizen- please relax. Have you registered for HealthCare yet, citizen?


57 posted on 06/21/2013 5:26:31 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: Nachum

Is he charge with tapping and recording the phone an Internet transactions of all Americans?

No ?

Oh, his ‘espionage’ is telling US citizens that the NSA was doing that. Oh, I see.


58 posted on 06/21/2013 5:34:06 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: hoosiermama

Thanks for the ping


59 posted on 06/21/2013 5:34:45 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: crosslink

Pinged you to new thread. Looks like he may be on his way to Iceland. So much for Chinese traitor


60 posted on 06/21/2013 5:39:22 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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