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Karzai suspends talks with U.S. over Taliban agreement (US EXCLUDES Afghan Gov in talks w Taliban)
LA Times ^ | June 19, 2013 | AP

Posted on 06/19/2013 5:33:57 AM PDT by Innovative

"The Afghan president on Wednesday suspended talks with the United States on a new security deal to protest the way his government was being left out of initial peace negotiations with the Taliban meant to find a way to end the nearly 12-year war.

Karzai's statement followed an announcement Tuesday by the U.S. and the Taliban that they would pursue bilateral talks in Qatar before the Afghan government was brought in."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; iran; karzai; obama; pakistan; saudiarabia; taliban; waronterror; wot
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You need to realize the magnitude of this — the US government ignores and excludes the legitimate government in Afghanistan to talk to the Terrorists in Afghanistan — remember that the Taliban supported Al Qaeda, that's why we went into Afghanistan and got rid of the Taliban government in the first place.

And now Obama is negotiating with the terrorists, behind the back of the legitimate Afghan government.

1 posted on 06/19/2013 5:33:57 AM PDT by Innovative
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Note — the other article posted with a similar title is a DIFFERENT article, it’s from the WP and it OMITS the most important part, that the US is talking to the Taliban, EXCLUDING the Afghan gov — your Mainstream Media protecting Obama,again.

Karzai suspends security talks with U.S.; Taliban rockets kill 4 Americans

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3033043/posts


2 posted on 06/19/2013 5:36:24 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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Obama is surrendering to the terrorists, you mean. That has been his objective all along.

Karzai certainly wasn’t great, but that’s because even before Obama, we allowed the Afghan government to be set up adhering to a sharia-based constitution. However, even this wasn’t radical enough for Obama, and he wants to go whole hog and show the jihadis how much he loves them - in Afghanistan and everywhere.

He regards them as the ultimate anti-Western and anti-American force, and this is the only principle that truly motivates him.


3 posted on 06/19/2013 5:37:32 AM PDT by livius
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“And now Obama is negotiating with the terrorists, behind the back of the legitimate Afghan government.”

I’m thinking Big Media will trot out the story again of how Karzai’s hats are made, to disgust enough Americans into agreeing that the left’s god should toss Afghanistan to the wolves.


4 posted on 06/19/2013 5:38:52 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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You know, I lived and traveled in the middle east some years back. We Aramcons all loved to travel and did so.

Afghanistan (Land of the Afghanis) was one place NONE of us would go to. It was just not open for tourists in any way, shape or form. It was totally inhospitable to all (ALL) things not archaic, medieval, useless and screwed up (technical term).

From what I read and saw it the middle east, Afghanistan made India and China look like Switzerland.

5 posted on 06/19/2013 5:46:13 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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as usual, obama was very accurate. that did last a long time; less than a day.


6 posted on 06/19/2013 5:48:22 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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0bama’s entire foreign policy is in utter shambles. We p.o. our allies and foes alike, throw anyone under the bus who have helped us in the past. There is no trust and the wolves sense (rightfully so) weakness.

And with Kerry and Hagel as the other two 0bama pointmen on the world stage, we literally have the 3 stooges. (no offense to Moe, Larry and Curly)


7 posted on 06/19/2013 5:57:34 AM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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I don't blame Karzai for being upset. It sounds like he was left out of the loop and the announcement took him by surprise.

Obama did this on purpose. Just like he failed to get a SOFA with Iraq to have a residual force there, Obama is pissing off Karzai so he can use it as a pretext to pull out all US forces. Walking away will seal the fate of many of the Afgans who helped us.

8 posted on 06/19/2013 6:01:07 AM PDT by kabar
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Look, if the old USSR came to the United States in the 60’s...

and decided to ‘negotiate’ with Bill Ayers and the Weather Underground ... rather than President Johnson...

I’m sure we wouldn’t have objected./s

Right?


9 posted on 06/19/2013 6:01:18 AM PDT by GOPJ (Why don't Democrats waste their time trying to win the votes of gun owners? - Coulter)
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From what I read and saw it the middle east, Afghanistan made India and China look like Switzerland.

Since there's so little truth that comes through the filters of the MSM - and since we need information on that region - could you expand on your comment?

10 posted on 06/19/2013 6:03:44 AM PDT by GOPJ (Why don't Democrats waste their time trying to win the votes of gun owners? - Coulter)
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Richard Nixon negotiated with the commies in Vietnam and cut a deal with them pressuring the South Vietnamese government of the time (Nugyen Van Thieu and Nugyen Cao Key) to cave in.

After this is over hopefully for Karzai’s sake he’ll get asylum in the US when the Taliban wins just like Thieu and Ky got it when the Communists won in Vietnam in 197.5


11 posted on 06/19/2013 6:05:32 AM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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Of course everyone knows that Karzai worked for the CIA, right?


12 posted on 06/19/2013 6:14:12 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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https://publicintelligence.net/karzai-aide-in-corruption-scandal-works-for-cia/


13 posted on 06/19/2013 6:16:29 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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it’s a 12 year war since we are fighting like we want to make it last, instead of overwhelming force against the enemy.....


14 posted on 06/19/2013 6:24:13 AM PDT by raygunfan
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To: Innovative
Cozy up to enemies and alienate (former) friends.
0bama has done that from day one in office.
His contempt for all western countries, US allies and their leaders is obvious.

15 posted on 06/19/2013 6:32:04 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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Afghanistan was closed, even more closed than China. We visited China back in 1981. We visited India too.

Afghanistan was considered backward, extremely primitive and secretive. There were no tours there so folks who did go there went on their own, not an easy thing to do. I don't even think that they had an airline. Having an airline was considered a mark of advancement for a country.

Even Pakistan had an airline. It was called PIA, Pakistan International Airlines I think....lol,we used to say the OBVIOUS -- pain in the ....

What else? Not much to say. When I read or watch T.V. about Afghanistan I still cringe.

It is SUPPOSED to be pronounced Af-ran-in-stan, with the "r" in "ran" like a French "r"--very gutteral. I've never heard it pronounced here with anything like that. ..and who cares? :o) I don't. They can have their third world sewer.
They have NOTHING for us. If there HAD been anything, the USSR would not have given it up. We should never go near there.

16 posted on 06/19/2013 6:35:58 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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As FOX News reports today the taliban claims to have killed 4 Americans.

WTF?

17 posted on 06/19/2013 6:39:35 AM PDT by Post5203 (Please name me a sucessfull city or country run by a "person of color".)
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Obama wants to cut and run before his term is up so he can claim that he got us out of 2 wars...


18 posted on 06/19/2013 6:41:18 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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As FOX News reports today the taliban claims to have killed 4 Americans. WTF?

This isn't a ceasefire. It's talk and fight. I imagine we'll be stomping the crap out of them on the battlefield in order to pressure them to give us a deal such that we can wave around a piece of paper and say "peace with honor", before handing Afghanistan to the Taliban. Vietnam could have been salvaged if we had continued funding the South. The Democrats cut off funding to make sure the Commies won.

If we continue funding Afghanistan to the tune of a few billion dollars a year, the government should prevail, although I expect the insurgency to go on for decades, much as the Philippines and Thailand have been fighting Muslim insurgents for the last 100 years. If we cut them off, the government will fall almost immediately, because unlike Vietnam, the place is frankly a wasteland of arid deserts and mountains, and there's not enough there to pay for the cost of fighting off a Taliban funded by Pakistan and private donors in the Gulf states.

19 posted on 06/19/2013 6:51:55 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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This sounds like the Vietnam tactic whereby a young communist activist named John Kerry met with the Vietcong in Paris and arranged for a diplomatic coup - a humiliating defeat for the US in Vietnam.


20 posted on 06/19/2013 7:03:22 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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