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Benghazi Whistleblower Lawyer Says Joint Chief’s Chairman Lied to Congress
CNS NEWS ^ | 6-18-2013 | Fred Lucas

Posted on 06/18/2013 3:15:39 PM PDT by smoothsailing

June 18, 2013

Benghazi Whistleblower Lawyer Says Joint Chief’s Chairman Lied to Congress

Fred Lucas (CNSNews.com) – An attorney whose firm represents two Benghazi whistleblowers said Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, lied to the Senate when he said there was never a “stand down” order during the Benghazi attack on Sept. 11, 2012.

“What was fascinating is that he explained his lie to them,” Joe DiGenova, an attorney representing one of the whistleblowers, told CNSNews.com.

“He actually said they were sent to Tripoli. They were needed in Benghazi,” said DiGenova, a former U.S. attorney, now with the Washington firm of DiGenova & Toensing. “They were told not to go to Benghazi, because their mission was Tripoli. I call that a stand down. He doesn’t. He can live with whatever he wants to think, but people died. In my opinion, what he did was lie.”

During testimony to the Senate Budget Committee last Wednesday, Dempsey said, “They weren’t told to stand down. A ‘stand down’ order means don’t do anything. They were told that the mission they were asked to perform was not in Benghazi, but was at Tripoli airport.”

This is contrary to what Gregory Hicks, former number two State Department diplomat in Libya, told the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee about the terrorist attack on the Benghazi compound that killed four Americans, including Ambassador Christopher Stevens.

Hicks told Congress that after the first attack, a security team left Tripoli for Benghazi with two military personnel and that four members of a special forces team in Tripoli wanted to go in a second wave but were told to stand down.

Hicks and Mark Thompson, acting deputy assistant Secretary of State for Counterterrorism, both testified to Congress in May about the State Department’s response to the Benghazi attack.

DiGenova represents Thompson. DiGenova’s wife and law partner Victoria Toensing represents Hicks.

The Joint Chief’s chairman stands by his testimony on the matter, said Col. Dave Lapan, spokesman for Dempsey.

“I would just say that Gen. Dempsey stands by his testimony, and he believes that no stand down order was given,” Lapan told CNSNews.com. “As he testified before the Senate, the special operations team was directed to remain in Tripoli and to provide assistance to the wounded who were coming back from Benghazi, and they were not told to stand down.”

DiGenova said the administration has not been straightforward on Benghazi and other matters.

“The issue is trust and the continuing lying of this administration in every conceivable context in every branch of the government. It’s unbelievable,” DiGenova said. “It is remarkable. It is absolutely remarkable that they can lie with impunity and the media thinks nothing of it.”

Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) asked Dempsey during the Senate Budget hearing on June 12, “Mr. Hicks testified that he believed the stand-down order came from AFRICOM or Special Operations Command in Africa. Gen. Dempsey, can you help me understand who issued the stand- down order and what happened there, why the special forces that wanted to go with, I understand it -- under Colonel Gibson in Tripoli -- were told not to go and who gave them that order from there? They wanted to go and help in Benghazi on that night.”

Dempsey said he was prepared for the question.

“There were two different groups of— it was six people, not all working for the same command,” Dempsey said. “Two of them were working with Joint Special Operations

Command. They were co-located with another agency of government in Tripoli, and four were working under the direct line of authority of Special Operations Command Europe or AFRICOM – AFSOC, and it was the four you're speaking about. The other two went.

“The other four -- by the time they had contacted the command center in Stuttgart, they were told that the individuals in Benghazi were on their way back and that they would be better used at the Tripoli airport -- because one of them was a medic -- that they would be better used to receive the casualties coming back from Benghazi, and that if they had gone they would have simply passed each other in the air, and that's the answer I received,” Dempsey continued. “So they weren't told to stand down. Stand down means don't do anything. They were told to -- that the mission they were asked to perform was not in Benghazi but was at Tripoli Airport.”

During a May 8 House oversight hearing, several House members asked Hicks about the stand down order.

Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) asked, “How did the personnel react to being told to stand down?”

Hicks responded, “They were furious. I can only say -- well, I will quote Lieutenant Colonel Gibson. He said, ‘This is the first time in my career that a diplomat has more balls than somebody in the military.’”

Chaffetz followed, “So the military is told to stand down, not engage with the fight. These are the kind of people willing to engage. What did -- where'd that message come down? Where'd the stand-down order come from?”

Hicks replied, “I believe it came from either AFRICOM or SOC [Special Operations Command] Africa.”

During that same hearing, Rep. Ronald Desantis (R-Fla.) asked, “And Mr. Hicks, I’d -- just to go back and get this. Even though you believed help was needed, there was a SOF [special operations forces] unit, special operations units ordered to stand down, correct?

Hicks answered, “Yes.”

Desantis followed, “And even though you thought air support was needed, there was no air support sent?”

Hicks answered, “No air support was sent.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: benghazi; fastandfurious; genocide; impeachnow; irs; navyseals; threatmatrix; wot

1 posted on 06/18/2013 3:15:39 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Huma’s family is tied with al Qaeda in more ways
than the reader has fingers.

The State Dept was/is infiltrated with al Qaeda giving
MANPADs to al Qaeda. Is there ANYONE in DC who
remembers the 911 Atrocities? Anyone?

So, how many more have be murdered or live in fear
during this Constitutional crisis-coverup?

IS THERE NOT ONE HONEST PERSON IN THE ENTIRE CONGRESS?


2 posted on 06/18/2013 3:18:53 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: smoothsailing

Dempsey is a just another Perfumed Prince of the Pentagon.


3 posted on 06/18/2013 3:20:59 PM PDT by clintonh8r ("Europe was created by history. America was created by a philosophy." Baroness Thatcher)
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To: smoothsailing; MestaMachine; Nachum

This may get even more interesting!


4 posted on 06/18/2013 3:21:01 PM PDT by John Galt's cousin (WTF? We couldn't rescue four men in Benghazi? Is our military IMPOTENT? ( /s ))
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To: smoothsailing
The new norm, this government cannot be trusted. It will take a long time before anyone (other than the MSM and liberal weenies) will trust this government again. They've lied about most everything.

Fire them all.

5 posted on 06/18/2013 3:23:37 PM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: John Galt's cousin

Benghazi is treason - pure and simple.

The marxist media is doing their best to focus on all the other scandals to avoid covering the treason.


6 posted on 06/18/2013 3:23:51 PM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: Diogenesis
IS THERE NOT ONE HONEST PERSON IN THE ENTIRE CONGRESS?

I Googled it, and the answer seems to be no.

7 posted on 06/18/2013 3:24:10 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: MestaMachine; maggief; penelopesire

Not easy keeping track of all the lies coming from our government ..


8 posted on 06/18/2013 3:24:35 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: MestaMachine

ping


9 posted on 06/18/2013 3:24:36 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: smoothsailing

He was certainly very deceptive, but they weren’t stood down, they were relocated to Tripoli airport, so technically he did not lie. However, sending them to Tripoli airport when they were needed in Benghazi was a cowardly and disgraceful act and he should be removed from his position and posted to Tripoli airport himself.


10 posted on 06/18/2013 3:24:44 PM PDT by expat2
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To: smoothsailing
If HE was so stupid to think the “trouble” was in Tripoli,
NOT Benghazi,

He should be relieved of his command!!

If Obama doesn't do it, HE SHOULD BE IMPEACHED!!!!!

11 posted on 06/18/2013 3:27:01 PM PDT by noah (noah)
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To: smoothsailing
“The issue is trust and the continuing lying of this administration in every conceivable context in every branch of the government. It’s unbelievable,” DiGenova said. “It is remarkable. It is absolutely remarkable that they can lie with impunity and the media thinks nothing of it.”

Of course they are. When the illegitimate "Obama" pResidency was allowed to happen, with the full knowledge of all the players who matter, "Obama" and his thug fellow travelers, enablers and handlers were handed carte blanche to do any d@mn thing they please, with complete impunity, because THEY ARE ALL GUILTY and are practicing the "hang together, or hang separately methodology.

This isn't going to end well.

12 posted on 06/18/2013 3:28:57 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (No more usurpers.)
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To: noah

Same goes for Eric Holder for numerous reasons.


13 posted on 06/18/2013 3:29:28 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: newfreep

You mailed it.

soon it may be “wag the dog”

God, help US, we pray.


14 posted on 06/18/2013 3:32:52 PM PDT by John Galt's cousin (WTF? We couldn't rescue four men in Benghazi? Is our military IMPOTENT? ( /s ))
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To: smoothsailing

Dempsey is a sorry excuse for a chairman of JCS on many issues but especially this one where good men were left to die.


15 posted on 06/18/2013 3:34:33 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: smoothsailing

“A cadet will not lie, cheat, steal or tolerate those who do.”

The Cadet Code of Honor at The United States Military Academy at West Point.

Dempsey.....you are called before your peers. Before you plead, I remind you to look at the code you swore to. Were you truthful? Were you attempting to mislead? Did you violate your honor? Did you violate The Academy’s honor? What say you? How do you plead?


16 posted on 06/18/2013 3:37:27 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: jazusamo

He sure is. He deserves to be drummed out of the service.


17 posted on 06/18/2013 3:38:35 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Keep digging on Benghazi - cockroaches hate the light.

Obama needs to be impeached.


18 posted on 06/18/2013 3:40:45 PM PDT by Lions Gate
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


19 posted on 06/18/2013 3:46:04 PM PDT by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: blueunicorn6

Did he order the Code Red?


20 posted on 06/18/2013 3:50:33 PM PDT by DrDude (Governor of the 57th State)
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To: SE Mom

If their mouths are moving.....


21 posted on 06/18/2013 3:51:04 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: Diogenesis

I would say Trey Gowdy and Ted Cruz, but after them, the list gets short, like in zero. But the sheep are happy andserene on their way to the slaughter.


22 posted on 06/18/2013 3:58:08 PM PDT by sport
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To: smoothsailing
Depends on the definition of "Stand down", kind of like the definition of "is" is.

Worked for BJ Clinton, Dempsey giving it a shot now.

23 posted on 06/18/2013 4:10:49 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Trey Gowdy......Nuff said.)
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To: smoothsailing

This is so easy. Find Lieutenant Colonel Gibson. Ask him who gave him the stand down order. He should know.


24 posted on 06/18/2013 4:14:25 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (The IRS--a softer Gestapo)
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To: clintonh8r

“Dempsey is a just another Perfumed Prince of the Pentagon.”

Is that a round about way of saying that he’s a worthless POS?


25 posted on 06/18/2013 4:15:24 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: blueunicorn6

“Or tolerate those who do”

Is honor just a word? Is it no different than “happy” or “rich”? Is it a quaint notion found only in the halls of The Academy? Or is it a guide? A principle to live your life by? Without honor, there can be no trust, and trust is the foundation of all relationships.....personal and professional. Do we sacrifice all of our relationships to protect a political party? Do we give away honor for a tainted legacy? Where does The Long Grey Line stand?


26 posted on 06/18/2013 4:25:53 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: DrDude

No. 0bama did.

This is about establishing and supporting the Caliphate.

Frankly, I think Benghazi isn’t just about guns and MANPADS. It’s about WMDs. 0bama gave who knows what to Libyan ‘rebels,’ with camps there that train jihadis from all over.

0bama wants himself and the cabal WWIII. They’ll profit by it and destroy the US. Collateral damage elsewhere? Meh.


27 posted on 06/18/2013 4:36:12 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

LTC Gibson is testifying tomorrow before a closed door session of Buck Mckeon’s HASC.


28 posted on 06/18/2013 4:36:47 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; Nachum; onyx; ...
Sorry I'm late. Alot of downtime the last few days. Playing catchup.

The deeper they dig, the larger the grave to bury themselves in.

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


Benghazi Index

29 posted on 06/18/2013 4:36:59 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: smoothsailing

Why a closed session? Or, do I already know? Will he confirm CJCOS lied to congress?


30 posted on 06/18/2013 4:47:56 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (The IRS--a softer Gestapo)
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To: smoothsailing

31 posted on 06/18/2013 4:54:42 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: blueunicorn6

God bless you Blue, these words mean something but only to true men of honor, so few left


32 posted on 06/18/2013 4:59:44 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: sport

“I would say Trey Gowdy and Ted Cruz, but after them, the list gets short, like in zero. But the sheep are happy andserene on their way to the slaughter.”

Perhaps the ‘sheeple’ do understand. An amazing number of them bought an astonishing number of guns and stripped the stores of ammo.

One may assume the armed sheep will challenge the vote of the Fabian wolves in Obama’s Regime.


33 posted on 06/18/2013 5:05:25 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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To: Diogenesis

Exactly.


34 posted on 06/18/2013 5:11:53 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: blueunicorn6
“A cadet will not lie, cheat, steal or tolerate those who do.”

I want all WP graduates to read that!!!!

35 posted on 06/18/2013 5:13:35 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: smoothsailing
LTC Gibson is testifying tomorrow before a closed door session of Buck Mckeon’s HASC.

Who is Buck Kckeon and what is his HASC?

36 posted on 06/18/2013 5:15:02 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

I said it was tomorrow, I was wrong. It’s June 26.

Briefers include:

Gen. Carter Ham (ret.) He was head of AFRICOM during Benghazi attack.

LTC Gibson

RADM Brian Losey – Special Operations Command Africa

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3032609/posts


37 posted on 06/18/2013 5:17:39 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: little jeremiah

Buck is chairman of the House Armed Services Committee

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3032609/posts


38 posted on 06/18/2013 5:21:37 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing
Bttt.

5.56mm

39 posted on 06/18/2013 6:26:33 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: John Galt's cousin

Next week’s hearings are going to be blockbuster...


40 posted on 06/18/2013 7:13:49 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: smoothsailing

Obama to nominate Army Gen. Rodriguez to lead AFRICOM (shakeup; flashback)
Stars & Stripes ^
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2950882/posts

Flashback articles on Gen Ham...
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/africom/index?tab=articles


41 posted on 06/18/2013 7:26:24 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,Â)
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To: smoothsailing

Dempsey - ‘It was not a stand-down order, the latrines in Tripoli badly needed cleaning and they were ordered to do so immediately!’ (paraphrased)


42 posted on 06/19/2013 4:41:56 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Triple
Dempsey - ‘It was not a stand-down order, the latrines in Tripoli badly needed cleaning and they were ordered to do so immediately!’

That really sums it up.

Dempsey is a disgrace to the uniform he wears.

43 posted on 06/19/2013 7:51:55 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Not wanting to nitpick but the military does not have authority over embassies and consulates, the State Dept. does. Any re-deployment other than a pre-approved Quick Reaction Force would likely require State Dept. approval. Without that any forces re-depolying to a diplomatic compound would be doing so without proper authorization and would conceivably not be authorized or approved by the command without State Dept. approval. Although not appealing I believe the General was in the right to re-iterate the assigned mission of the Tripoli forces ...in a France, Spring of 1940 sort-of-way.

This is what happens sometimes when diplomatic procedures trump military priorities.

Fog of war and red tape AFAIK.


44 posted on 06/19/2013 8:13:16 AM PDT by Justa
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To: MestaMachine; annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; ...

Here’s the hottest question: If it was NOT a stand down order WHY were General Carter Ham and Rear Admiral Gaoette removed by their next commanding officers and sent to the “silent” corners???


45 posted on 06/19/2013 10:04:14 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: smoothsailing
“He actually said they were sent to Tripoli. They were needed in Benghazi,” said DiGenova, a former U.S. attorney, now with the Washington firm of DiGenova & Toensing. “They were told not to go to Benghazi, because their mission was Tripoli. I call that a stand down.

So then Dempsey did indeed confirm a stand-down from Benghazi order.

46 posted on 06/19/2013 1:02:07 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: smoothsailing

Sad the compelling testimony given by the three whistleblowers got washed by other “scandals”. The testimony was in a way heartrending.


47 posted on 06/19/2013 1:07:08 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: FreeReign

Precisely. DiGenova nailed him.


48 posted on 06/19/2013 2:28:56 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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