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New material enables 1,000-meter super-skyscrapers
The Register ^ | 18 June 2013 | Rik Myslewski

Posted on 06/18/2013 12:15:36 PM PDT by ShadowAce

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To: ShadowAce

I’ve been to the top of the Burj Khalifa.Not really the top...the highest public observation deck (above which are private apartments).It wasn’t nearly as impressive as was the roof deck of the WTC or the observation deck at the ESB.All you see from the Burj is a few other modern buildings and then sand.Lots and lots of sand!


41 posted on 06/18/2013 1:01:30 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: Red Badger

A real answer to your first question:

Why Can’t We Start Building The World’s Deepest Building?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2013/02/11/why-cant-we-start-building-the-worlds-deepest-building/

More expensive and less desirable.


42 posted on 06/18/2013 1:03:22 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: treetopsandroofs

Ooo Ooo! Algebra time
X = weight of rope
Y = weight of car
X+Y=12800
1.6X+Y=13900 (60% more length)

so

.6X = 1100
X = 1800 or so
which is 3.6 Kg/M
(Which seems more reasonable)


43 posted on 06/18/2013 1:07:06 PM PDT by Technocrat (Romney-Ryan 2012 No I'm not changing my Sig)
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To: Technocrat

Keep in mind as the rope gets longer, it has to have more strength, so it has more material per meter.


44 posted on 06/18/2013 1:09:54 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: ShadowAce

I don’t know; I’d have thought the further you get from the earths core, the less the gravity so the lighter everything gets.


45 posted on 06/18/2013 1:11:02 PM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: Mr. K
RE: why doesn't elevator have a motor on the car

I think elevators usually use a counterweight, so that when the car goes up, the counterweight goes down. That way, only the weight of passengers is being lifted, not the weight of the car. This setup naturally puts the motor on the roof of the building.

46 posted on 06/18/2013 1:17:42 PM PDT by j. earl carter
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To: thackney

More and different problems require more and different solutions.

“Everything is theoretically impossible, until it is done.” Robert Heinlein........


47 posted on 06/18/2013 1:17:58 PM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: ShadowAce

I’ve been on the 55th floor of an office building....in the second bank of elevators...(only 825 ft.)
(and Sydney Tower, which I believe is 1000 ft.)

I have no interest in being in an office 3000 feet up!
(or more)

Do you?


48 posted on 06/18/2013 1:18:15 PM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: G Larry
Do you?

Not for about 11.5 years now.

49 posted on 06/18/2013 1:20:20 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Red Badger

Over that distance, the quality of the graffiti should be better.....


50 posted on 06/18/2013 1:21:21 PM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
I’d quibble a bit with the implied premise that changing elevators is such an absolute deal breaker. Speaking personally, I think I’d find it kind of a cool thing to do.

could simply transfer to the next tier elevator every 500 meters. At 4 meters per story that is every 125 stories.

51 posted on 06/18/2013 1:36:43 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: G Larry

Quality vs Quantity...............


52 posted on 06/18/2013 1:44:41 PM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Arguably not *ideal* but the article would have you believe that’s a absolute deal-breaker whereas I think it might be perceived as kind of cool and a definite conversation starter.


53 posted on 06/18/2013 1:47:24 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Red Badger

Technically feasible doesn’t mean worthwhile or economically competitive. I don’t mean to say we cannot do it. I am saying there isn’t a good reason to do so.


54 posted on 06/18/2013 1:57:25 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: ShadowAce
Whether you build below or above ground, the elevator problem is the same.

Yeah, I know.......that damn elevator music!

55 posted on 06/18/2013 2:07:28 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: thackney

Oh drat. Now I need another data point :)


56 posted on 06/18/2013 2:15:51 PM PDT by Technocrat (Romney-Ryan 2012 No I'm not changing my Sig)
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To: j. earl carter; Mr. K

That’s an excellent reason. Another is simply cost. To move a counterweighted elevator, you need only enough power to overcome inertia and any weight imbalance. Otherwise you’d need the power to overcome inertia PLUS the weight - a significant increase - 4 or 5 times the counterweighted version.


57 posted on 06/18/2013 2:28:03 PM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: MeganC
Why don’t the engineers just use magnetic levitation for elevators?

Toshiba has developed a permanent magnet/electromagnet method to keep the elevator from touching the guide rails. It has nothing to do with vertical levitation.

I vote we fall back on "Beam me up, Scotty."

58 posted on 06/18/2013 2:34:08 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: Mr. K
"Why dont elevators have gears along the shaft, and an electric motor on the car itself? (no rope)"

Some do. These "traction elevators" are essentially vertical funicular railways.

This building ("One Wall Centre" in Vancouver) has traction elevators.


59 posted on 06/18/2013 2:38:07 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Mr. K
serious question: Why dont elevators have gears along the shaft, and an electric motor on the car itself? (no rope)

Exactly what I was about to post. That's why I always read all the comments before I post. Someone usually has already beat me to it.

60 posted on 06/18/2013 2:39:56 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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