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New material enables 1,000-meter super-skyscrapers
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| 18 June 2013
| Rik Myslewski
Posted on 06/18/2013 12:15:36 PM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: ShadowAce
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posted on
06/18/2013 12:36:55 PM PDT
by
ThomasThomas
(A bad hair day is not a mental issue, or is it?)
To: ShadowAce
The closer you get to the center of the earth, the lighter things are..............
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posted on
06/18/2013 12:39:59 PM PDT
by
Red Badger
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To: thackney
Most elevators have four walls with graffiti.............
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posted on
06/18/2013 12:40:52 PM PDT
by
Red Badger
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
I think elevators are not all the issues. Utilities -water, power lines, air, fire suppression etc all converge at creating space demands the higher one goes.
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posted on
06/18/2013 12:41:28 PM PDT
by
Raycpa
To: Red Badger
Actually, it looks like it’s darker down there ... until you break through the mantle.
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posted on
06/18/2013 12:41:39 PM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Being deceived can be cured.)
To: MHGinTN
Then you won’t need an elevator. The magma will shoot you up....................
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posted on
06/18/2013 12:42:56 PM PDT
by
Red Badger
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To: ShadowAce
serious question: Why dont elevators have gears along the shaft, and an electric motor on the car itself? (no rope)
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posted on
06/18/2013 12:43:21 PM PDT
by
Mr. K
(There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
To: Red Badger
The closer you get to the center of the earth, the lighter things are.............. If you go deep enough to become noticeably lighter, you are going to have some more significant problems than weight.
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posted on
06/18/2013 12:43:37 PM PDT
by
thackney
(life is fragile, handle with prayer)
To: Baseballguy
Keeps the zombies out.............
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posted on
06/18/2013 12:43:48 PM PDT
by
Red Badger
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To: ShadowAce
“He provides some rather staggering stats about steel rope versus its UltraRope. For example, at a building height of 500 meters and with an elevator large enough to hold two-dozen souls, the total mass in motion of a steel rope-hoisted lift system would be 29,000 kilograms. The same system equipped with UltraRope would total a mere 12,800 kilograms.
.... but if you extend that building height to 800 meters, the steel-rope weight would increase to 108,600 kilograms, while the UltraRope-based lift system would rise only to 13,900 kilograms.”
12,800 kg for 500 meters is 25.6 kg/m.
An additional 1,100 kg for 300 more meters?
Now it’s 3.67 kg/m.
Why is “UltraRope” so much lighter per length measure after the first 500 meters upwards?
What am I missing here?
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posted on
06/18/2013 12:43:54 PM PDT
by
treetopsandroofs
(Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
To: Baseballguy
Resident Evil comes to mind.
Loved that game, the first and second one.
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posted on
06/18/2013 12:43:58 PM PDT
by
ForAmerica
(Texas Conservative Christian Black Man!)
To: thackney
Gonna need a bigger air conditioner.................
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posted on
06/18/2013 12:44:19 PM PDT
by
Red Badger
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To: Raycpa
Well sure. Of course. But the implied premise of the article was that it was max elevator height that was THE bottleneck.
To: Mr. K
I’ve wondered that myself.
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posted on
06/18/2013 12:45:31 PM PDT
by
ShadowAce
(Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
To: treetopsandroofs
You’re not taking into account the weight of the car and people, which is constant in both measures. The weight of the rope is the same, but as you string out the steel cable, there is more weight due to more cable.
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posted on
06/18/2013 12:47:01 PM PDT
by
ShadowAce
(Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
To: treetopsandroofs
The infrastructure/motors etc.
To: ShadowAce
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posted on
06/18/2013 12:48:09 PM PDT
by
treetopsandroofs
(Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
To: Mr. K
Don’t know, but I’ll bet it has something to do with regulations from a bureaucratic buffoon agency.
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posted on
06/18/2013 12:49:39 PM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Being deceived can be cured.)
To: Red Badger
Not to mention dealing with fluid pressure from the exterior...
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posted on
06/18/2013 12:52:31 PM PDT
by
thackney
(life is fragile, handle with prayer)
To: ShadowAce
If I’m getting this, they could build taller skyscrapers today if they were willing to have two elevators—one from the first floor to 500 meters, and the second from 500 meters to the top. But, that would be too uncool a design, so it isn’t done, and has to await an improved, ultralight, high-tensile elevator rope that can do bottom to top in a single run.
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