Syria: Egypt's Morsi joining US, Israeli conspiracy

The Jerusalem Post ^ | June 16, 2013 | JPOST.COM Staff

[Wuli]

Damascus lashes out at Egyptian president, Muslim Brotherhood after Morsi severs ties with Bashar Assad's regime.

Syria on Sunday harshly criticized Cairo's decision to sever diplomatic relations with Damascus, accusing Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi of joining a US and Israel-led conspiracy against Syria.

Morsi said he had cut all diplomatic ties with Damascus on Saturday and called for a no-fly zone over Syria, pitching the most populous Arab state firmly against President Bashar Assad.

Syria's official SANA news agency quoted a government source as saying that Morsi was implementing the agenda of the Muslim Brotherhood, who has called for jihad against the Syrian regime, and ignoring the aspirations of the Egyptian people.

[snip]

[Morsi Said]

"We [Sunni MB of Syria] stand against Hezbollah [Shia's of Lebanon] in its aggression against the Syrian people," Morsi said. "Hezbollah must leave Syria - these are serious words. There is no space or place for Hezbollah in Syria."

Morsi said Syria was the target of "a campaign of extermination and planned ethnic cleansing fed by regional and international states", partly in reference to Iran, though he did not name the Shi'ite Islamic Republic.

[that's the pot calling the kettle black for sure, as the "Syrian opposition"] is in reality a Sunni & MB putsch]

[Wuli]

"Morsi said Syria was the target of "a campaign of extermination and planned ethnic cleansing fed by regional and international states", partly in reference to Iran, though he did not name the Shi'ite Islamic Republic."

That's the pot calling the kettle black for sure, as the "Syrian opposition" is in reality a Sunni & MB putsch in Syria, as Syrian Christians and non-Sunni Syrians know.

Of course both sides, looking for geopolitical and regional support play the "Israel" card.

[Brad from Tennessee]

It would appear Morsi is taking a position based on the age-old denominational conflict inside Islam rather than some regional calculation. This puts Egypt at odds with Iran, Russia and China.

[Wuli]

“It would appear Morsi is taking a position based on the age-old denominational conflict inside Islam rather than some regional calculation.”

No “appearance” to it and Morsi is fooling no one in the Middle East, only gullible westerners. The Syrian phony “civil war” IS a proxy war in the age-old Shia-Sunni conflict inside Syria. It has Sunni radical fundamentalist Islamists Wahabi Saudis & their friends the MB on one side, and Assad’s support from Shia radical fundamentalist Islamist theocrats in Iran on the other side.

Morsi is totally aware that Assad has been totally aware that (a) the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood and the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood are as close as two peas in a pod, (b) the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood is among the core of the leaders of the externally engineered, externally funded, externally supported “Syrian opposition” movement (over a decade old as OUR “regime change” project).

What the western public has been unaware of is we are making the same kind of mistake in Syria that we made in Afghanistan in 1979-1989 - making alliances of convenience with the wrong people, and helping to build up forces that will be our “allies” not one minute longer than it takes for THEM to obtain THEIR goals - not ours.

[NonValueAdded]

It’s always Sunni in Alexandria

[Fee]

Actually it is Iran and Russia. China is stoking the fire so the US is dumb enough to put their foot in just like Iraq was a Chinese strategic trap. Easy to get in, but nation building is a bitch. Each time we step in, more money is drained from our deficit treasury, US public will gets drained, and our military is worn out with broken equipment and soldier suicides from the deployments. After it is all over with, the Chinese will move in and get lucrative contracts for rebuilding infrastructure and oil/gas fields. I say keep out, let Assad win and then let him contend with Turkey, Eqypt, Saudis, Gulf emirates and his majority Sunnis population. Sunnis Arabs are not going to sit by and let herectic Shiites kill Sunni Syrians. This is the great Sunni vs Shiite Islamic civil war and it is wise for the US to keep out.

[Wuli]

"It’s always Sunni in Alexandria" Not under the Fatamid Calephs (a series of Shia Calephs) from 969-1171. The Fatamids: "The Fatimid Caliphate's religious ideology originated in an Ismaili Shia movement launched in Syria by the ninth Imam Abd Allah al-Akbar.[6] He claimed descent through Ismail, the seventh Shia imam, from the Prophet's daughter Fatimah and her husband ʻAlī ibn-Abī-Tālib, the first Shīʻa Imām, hence the name al-Fātimiyyūn "Fatimid". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatimid_Caliphate#Rise_of_the_Fatimids after which Egypt was returned to Sunni control when Saladin conquered Egypt but that history, known very well to both Morsi & Assad, is not lost on either of them; as Muslims, the past is always part of or a cause for, today and tomorrow.

[AmericanExceptionalist]

I find it quite difficult to engender warm and fuzzy feelings for either Morsi’s Egypt or Assad’s Syria...

[EEGator]

I don’t know if that show would be as funny.

[expat2]

The Sunni-Shia war is heating up. We should stay out of it — just get the popcorn out.

[sagar]

“The Sunni-Shia war is heating up. We should stay out of it — just get the popcorn out.”

Wrong, money is to be made. The war-hawk republicans are at the forefront of it.

[SunkenCiv]

Yakhont and S-300 keywords newest to oldest:

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• Report: S-300 Missiles Now on Their Way to Syria
• Israeli officials: Al-Qaida preferable over Assad
• Putin: No S-300 in Syria Yet
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• Assad: S-300 Missiles Already Here
• Israel Strongly Warns Russia Against Giving Syria Missiles
• Israel threatens to strike Russia's shipments of missiles to Syria
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• Diplomat: Russia to arm Syria regime with anti-aircraft missiles to prevent foreign intervention
• Russia canceled S-300 deal with Assad, report says
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• Report: Russia sends Assad 'ship killing missile'
• Report: Russia Sends Warships To Syrian Coast
• Russia Sends More Advanced Missiles to Aid Assad in Syria
• CIA chief pays surprise visit to Israel (John Brennan)
• 5 Questions on Russian S-300 Missile System Sales to Syria
• Iran Reports 'Progress' on Indigenous S-300 Missile
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• Syria deploys "Bastion" missile system along coastline
• Iran: We've Produced Domestic Version Of S-300 Anti-Aircraft Missiles
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• Russia confirms plans to supply Syria with Yakhont missiles (Update 1)
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• China buys air defense systems from Russia
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• IRAN AND THE S-300 ISSUE
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[SunkenCiv]

"We stand against Hezbollah in its aggression against the Syrian people," Morsi said. "Hezbollah must leave Syria -- these are serious words. There is no space or place for Hezbollah in Syria."

[SunkenCiv]

Dealing With Middle Eastern Conspiracy Theories
Daniel Pipes, Orbis, 1992
http://www.danielpipes.org/articles/1992.shtml
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/715728/posts

Assad: Israel, Turkey made a pact against Syria
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3004886/posts

[SunkenCiv]

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The Hidden Hand: Middle East Fears of Conspiracy by Daniel Pipes	Greater Syria: The History of an Ambition by Daniel Pipes	Ending Syria's Occupation of Lebanon: The U.S. Role ed by Daniel Pipes and Ziad Abdelnour

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[SunkenCiv]

Erdogan claims Jewish investors behind protests
Yedioth Ahronoth News | 06.14.13, 20:41 | Prof. Dror Zeevi
Posted on 06/14/2013 1:29:57 PM PDT by Olog-hai
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3031408/posts

[SunkenCiv]

• Iran Deploys Troops, Ballistic Missiles To Eritrea [2008]

[Wuli]

“The Sunni-Shia war is heating up.”

and we don’t have a dog in that race

[Wuli]

“I find it quite difficult to engender warm and fuzzy feelings for either Morsi’s Egypt or Assad’s Syria...”

granted, neither can I, and I could say the same thing about the “Syrian opposition” as well

[Whenifhow]

FYI

[lbryce]

We certainly have no dog in that race but it's almost as we have two, both dogs in the race. We have the ultimate satisfaction that as these savages go at each other in a take-no-prisoners attitude no matter what the outcome we win.

It's a dream grudge-match for America.