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NASA Finds Black Hole Cluster (Unprecedented Cluster)
Daily Beast ^ | June 15, 2013 | Staff

Posted on 06/15/2013 2:30:31 PM PDT by lbryce

Title:NASA Finds Black Hole Cluster

No matter how old you are, space never stops being cool. That applies doubly to black holes, which is why NASA's latest discovery should be considered totally awesome: using the Chandra X-ray observatory, the agency found an "unprecedented" cluster of black holes in the Andromeda galaxy.

How unprecedented? There could be 26 of them in this cluster alone. And these were just the ones that were immediately identifiable, as scientists say there are likely many more that are currently invisible. Said the lead author of the study, "We think it's just the tip of the iceberg." Cool.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: andromenda; blackholecluster; blackholes; stringtheory; unprecedented; xplanets
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To: Cboldt

Equal mass means equal gravitational pulls...so unless they collide they would just orbit each other. While no theory precludes it you have to figure that the chances of them colliding isn’t very likely at all.


21 posted on 06/15/2013 3:10:07 PM PDT by aft_lizard
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To: lbryce

Wow, a real-life cluster-dark.


22 posted on 06/15/2013 3:11:59 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: lbryce
NASA Finds Black Hole Cluster (Unprecedented Cluster)

How much did this cost us? We have an Unprecedented Cluster in the white house and that's cost us plenty already.

23 posted on 06/15/2013 3:12:47 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: aft_lizard
-- Equal mass means equal gravitational pulls...so unless they collide they would just orbit each other. --

Orbiting isn't special when objects have equal mass. Objects of unequal mass orbit each other too, and just like objects of equal mass, "unless they collide they would just orbit each other." Or, be so remote from each other that "orbit" doesn't happen.

I do agree with your "probability" aspect of merging equal masses, just because of the diverse range of object masses.

At any rate, the initial question just had to do with merging black holes, which presupposes collision, and I wanted to clarify that given a collision between two black holes, the relative masses don't prevent merger. I think the logic is that once two event horizons meet, merging is inevitable. Neither object can escape the other.

24 posted on 06/15/2013 3:22:43 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: lbryce

Black Holes?????

That’s racist!


25 posted on 06/15/2013 3:25:05 PM PDT by Bullish (Psalm 46)
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To: aft_lizard
Equal mass means equal gravitational pulls.

Considering that each black hole is pulling in 'matter' as quick as it can, how likely is it that they have the 'same' mass ?

Going to the other end of the theoretical chalkboard, how can a HOLE have MASS ?

26 posted on 06/15/2013 3:25:42 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: aft_lizard

They would orbit until the event horizon of one
is reached.

The question is can a stable orbit be maintained?
As the “hole” continues to pull in mass the EH would
continue to grow thus eventually degrading any orbit?

Does this mean at some point there will be only two
black objects in this universe? And what happens
when there is only one??? Critical mass?? and big bang?

Makes you wonder what kind of energy is released when
two reach that point??

Question for scientific minds.
If you and your flashlight had no mass and you turned
it on would you be moving at light speed?


27 posted on 06/15/2013 3:33:31 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: lbryce

Perhaps black holes are only elegant fiction.
http://www.sjcrothers.plasmaresources.com/PhD.html


28 posted on 06/15/2013 3:42:39 PM PDT by Zuse
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To: The Sons of Liberty
They probably found it in their search for muslim outreach.

Nothing like a black hole in space devoid of light and beauty to bolster the self-esteem of a muslim.

29 posted on 06/15/2013 3:44:48 PM PDT by schm0e ("we are in the midst of a coup.")
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To: lbryce

I’d like to toss this out here and see what comments it generates. Perhaps it will simply generate derogatory comments. If so, that’s okay.

I understand some aspects of what black holes are. The depictions I have seen sort of makes them look like a ring with blackness in the middle, some light escaping from the sides.

At times I have hard that we could be crushed by entering one. At other times I’ve read where that might not be the case.

If we enter a Black Hole, do we exit the other side?

Could Black Holes be worm holes? Could we enter one and wind up clear across the universe, or perhaps in another universe? Does anyone know?

Twenty-six black holes in a lose cluster..., kind of reminds me of a train station where you enter a certain tunnel depending on where you want to wind up.

Any comments?


30 posted on 06/15/2013 3:57:27 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Now playing... [ * * * Manchurian Candidate * * * ], limited engagement, 8 years...)
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To: UCANSEE2

They probably are, but when things move behind them, you can note the passage, and determine there is something there, especially if the light of the farthest object goes out during the passage.


31 posted on 06/15/2013 3:58:55 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Now playing... [ * * * Manchurian Candidate * * * ], limited engagement, 8 years...)
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To: lbryce

The current administration is an Unprecedented Cluster.


32 posted on 06/15/2013 4:30:27 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: DoughtyOne
The depictions I have seen sort of makes them look like a ring with blackness in the middle, some light escaping from the sides.

That's not light. You might be thinking of escaping Gamma Rays.

33 posted on 06/15/2013 5:01:34 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

Let me ask you this. Isn’t it possible for objects behind the Black Hole to show up as a ring around the hole do to the bending of their light as it passes the parimeter?

I suspect the pull of the Black Hole focuses at some aspect of the hole. This may prevent what I’m referencing. If the gravity has it’s most pull around the mouth, it might be possible.

At any rate, I’m probably referencing artistic license from depictions I’ve seen over the years. It would be hard for Hollywood to show a black hole on film if there wasn’t some light to differentiate the blackness from other blackness.


34 posted on 06/15/2013 5:08:12 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Now playing... [ * * * Manchurian Candidate * * * ], limited engagement, 8 years...)
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Thanks lbryce.
 
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35 posted on 06/15/2013 5:23:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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Thanks lbryce.


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36 posted on 06/15/2013 5:23:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: DoughtyOne
At any rate, I’m probably referencing artistic license from depictions I’ve seen over the years. It would be hard for Hollywood to show a black hole on film if there wasn’t some light to differentiate the blackness from other blackness.

you sort of answered your own question. That's Hollywood!

Black holes are totally devoid of light. The only way I know they can be detected is by the erratic movement of mass around one, or once suspected a massive escape of Gamma Rays. I'm certainly not an expert but was always interested in cosmology.

I suspect that artists in both film and print used a lighter ring on the exterior to give us a reference point.

37 posted on 06/15/2013 5:26:25 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: lbryce

ive been poisoned i thought this said “NSA Finds....”


38 posted on 06/15/2013 5:27:54 PM PDT by bigheadfred (barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: lbryce

Clustered around the Zimmerman showtrial ?


39 posted on 06/15/2013 5:29:59 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: cripplecreek
So this is kinda like the black caucus but useful?

Well, it doesn't suck as much.

40 posted on 06/15/2013 5:33:41 PM PDT by ItsForTheChildren
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