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AP IMPACT: COMMANDER IN SS-LED UNIT LIVING IN US
AP ^ | Jun. 14 10:31 AM EDT | DAVID RISING, RANDY HERSCHAFT and MONIKA SCISLOWSKA

Posted on 06/14/2013 9:03:46 AM PDT by Sopater

BERLIN (AP) — A top commander of a Nazi SS-led unit accused of burning villages filled with women and children lied to American immigration officials to get into the United States and has been living in Minnesota since shortly after World War II, according to evidence uncovered by The Associated Press.

Michael Karkoc, 94, told American authorities in 1949 that he had performed no military service during World War II, concealing his work as an officer and founding member of the SS-led Ukrainian Self Defense Legion and later as an officer in the SS Galician Division, according to records obtained by the AP through a Freedom of Information Act request. The Galician Division and a Ukrainian nationalist organization he served in were both on a secret American government blacklist of organizations whose members were forbidden from entering the United States at the time.

(Excerpt) Read more at bigstory.ap.org ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: germany; nazi; ss

1 posted on 06/14/2013 9:03:46 AM PDT by Sopater
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To: Sopater

He should declare himself a Muslim. The government will then back off.


2 posted on 06/14/2013 9:04:54 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: Sopater

Why did not NSA know this? Are we compromised?


3 posted on 06/14/2013 9:05:23 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Sopater

Perhaps he will be covered by immigration reform???


4 posted on 06/14/2013 9:06:27 AM PDT by timlilje
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To: Sopater

He’ll be dead before the case even gets to stage one.

A guy like this died in Detroit in March. His citizenship had been revoked in 1996, but no other country would take him.


5 posted on 06/14/2013 9:06:53 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Sopater

Good grief,the guy’s 94 years old.He’ll be dead soon,why waste time and money?


6 posted on 06/14/2013 9:08:23 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Sopater

drop him in a dingy in the middle of the Atlantic.....


7 posted on 06/14/2013 9:08:25 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Sopater

Let’s see if I have this right.

It’s possible to find and expose an old Nazi murderer, living in the US for decades but NOT to vet the ‘President’?


8 posted on 06/14/2013 9:10:36 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: Sopater

While all Nazis deserve what comes to them, I am amazed that men in their 90’s from a dead, non-existent political movement (who were at most 20 years old when WWII started) are still pursued with such seriousness and purpose by the media and the DOJ

Meanwhile, we have real and active enemies, from an equally dangerous religious-political movement, thousands of whom are in the country now, and the same media and Gov’t organizations will not speak of their activities.


9 posted on 06/14/2013 9:12:26 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88

Read the article.


10 posted on 06/14/2013 9:18:10 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: Sopater

Whenever I look at those old Nazi images and movies I think about what a nightmare much of the world was to live in during WWII. Russia, Germany, China etc...
In times of war people become warped by the sheer magnitude of overwhelming horror. I pray that if any of my family is ever forced to serve that they will sacrifice their own life before they participate in such atrocities.


11 posted on 06/14/2013 9:20:38 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: Cowboy Bob

Karkoc should announce that he’s a homo then Soetoro will invite him to dinner at the White House.


12 posted on 06/14/2013 9:21:12 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: PGR88

they can track down a Nazi but not all the illegals now.....


13 posted on 06/14/2013 9:21:52 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: School of Rational Thought

I did. Your point?


14 posted on 06/14/2013 9:24:19 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: kimtom

Read recently that a large percent of the illegals are folks who have over stayed their visa. Know two. Married Americans took husbands name and didn’t bother to do any paperwork to be legal.


15 posted on 06/14/2013 9:27:58 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: liberty or death

I know a lady at church who was born in Lithuania.

When WW II broke out her parents had to make a choice.
Do we want to raise our children under Hitler or Stalin?

They chose Hitler. They moved to Germany where they became guest workers until the Brits bombed their house out of existence. Later they came to the US as refugees.

Could you imagine having to make such a choice?


16 posted on 06/14/2013 9:31:50 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Sopater

There will be a position for him once the Obama has a chance to vet him and see if he truly is a mass murderer.


17 posted on 06/14/2013 9:36:22 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: PGR88; School of Rational Thought
I did. Your point?

You read the article and still wonder why any effort is made to bring justice to these people? My God.
18 posted on 06/14/2013 9:37:32 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Farmer Dean
"Good grief,the guy’s 94 years old.He’ll be dead soon,why waste time and money?"

Why don't we just toss out all cold case homicide files while we're at it? I mean, the murderers could be old and sickly, so why waste time and money trying to solve these cases, and bring the perps to justice.

19 posted on 06/14/2013 9:41:07 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Horrifying. I fear though we are on that same trajectory with history. Godless leaders, leading Godless people to hate and kill each other. In the name of either a false religion or simply because they look and act different.


20 posted on 06/14/2013 9:42:30 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: Resolute Conservative
" Why did not NSA know this? Are we compromised? "

It's called selective memory or knowledge.
21 posted on 06/14/2013 9:45:51 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Farmer Dean
Good grief,the guy’s 94 years old.He’ll be dead soon,why waste time and money?

He probably had a job, paid his taxes and only sought a better life for his family. He has been here for years. Where have we heard that before.

22 posted on 06/14/2013 9:46:33 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: Farmer Dean
Good grief,the guy’s 94 years old.He’ll be dead soon,why waste time and money?

Because he doesn't deserve to die on his own terms, unlike his victims.

23 posted on 06/14/2013 9:46:49 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Buckeye McFrog

This guy was not forced into the SS......he CHOSE to be in the SS, knowing full well what they did.


24 posted on 06/14/2013 9:48:26 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Sopater
You read the article and still wonder why any effort is made to bring justice to these people? My God.

Did you read my post??? Did I say anywhere these people should not be brought to justice?

25 posted on 06/14/2013 9:48:55 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: SMARTY
It’s possible to find and expose an old Nazi murderer, living in the US for decades but NOT to vet the ‘President’?

Or 11 million (or 20? or 30?) illegal aliens...

Regards,
GtG

26 posted on 06/14/2013 9:49:29 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: PGR88
Did you read my post??? Did I say anywhere these people should not be brought to justice?

Here's what you said:

I am amazed that men in their 90’s from a dead, non-existent political movement (who were at most 20 years old when WWII started) are still pursued with such seriousness and purpose by the media and the DOJ.

So, you think that they should be brought to justice, but just not pursued with such seriousness and purpose by the media and DOJ? Maybe we should just ask them to turn themselves in.
27 posted on 06/14/2013 10:03:07 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Farmer Dean

Maybe the new SS wants to know how the old SS operated so they don’t miss a thing?.


28 posted on 06/14/2013 10:08:10 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Sopater
Top commander?

He was a Lieutenant.

29 posted on 06/14/2013 10:10:05 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: Sopater

I wondered just how they confirmed that this guy is the same one in WWII....reading through it, it seems the government and/or the Simon Wiesenthal foundation further investigated him AFTER an AP investigation.

I’m sorry, I just don’t believe anybody in the AP, UPI, or MSM news EVER does investigation (air quotes). Now if the guy was a Republican and ‘took a wide stance’ or texted with a Congressional Page or the like, then I’d believe they went all out and maybe even investigated.

My point is that there was no political gain in this for them, so what explains the ‘investigation?’


30 posted on 06/14/2013 10:11:57 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
I just don’t believe anybody in the AP, UPI, or MSM news EVER does investigation (air quotes)

Somebody must have posted something about him on Twitter.
31 posted on 06/14/2013 10:18:27 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Sopater

I’m not disputing he’s a Nazi, but I’m not fully on-board convinced he is, either. 94 years old....how did they conclusively confirm this?


32 posted on 06/14/2013 10:21:59 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Sopater

At this point, WHAT does it matter? Hell the guy is 94. He’s close to punishment, if there is any for him.


33 posted on 06/14/2013 10:22:22 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Sopater

Maybe we should just ask them to turn themselves in. ....That’s what we are doing with those “people in the shadows”


34 posted on 06/14/2013 10:26:41 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Gaffer

I know what you mean. I was simply making a joke about twitter because it seems that the news agencies these days are willing to rely on it as a credible source for investigative journalism.


35 posted on 06/14/2013 10:27:27 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Sopater
A top commander of a Nazi SS-led unit accused of burning villages filled with women and children

The Al Qaeda mercenaries we are arming right now in Syria have done a lot worse.

36 posted on 06/14/2013 10:34:42 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto
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To: Sopater

I wasn’t badmouthing back at you. It’s just so frustrating to see lies 24/7/365 out of these ‘journalists’ and then see how they tracked down some Nazi or something? Oh, excuse me while I deal with the puzzling fact that you guys (media) are not now Jew-haters like you’ve been with Israel since its inception. That, in itself, is a very suspicious turn of events.

These people are so used to and comfortable with using just words to indict, try and convict something or someone against the bullshit they’ve been taught by their liberal professors, to be on humanity’s side (this one time) seems a deep contradiction in their nature.


37 posted on 06/14/2013 10:40:53 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Sopater

Many top NAZI and their families lived here after the war. Heinrich Müller’s son lived here in Colorado under a new name as a chemical engineer. He came here in 1956 by way of Ireland after the war and then Argentina. He died in 2003. His house was full of Nazi paraphernalia and stolen Nazi loot. His family lives in Ireland. When he died they came for the body and his belongings. During his last days he fell mentally unstable and the wife was his social worker during those days. She later discovered who he was when the family came for him in his last days. They claim the 4th Reich will prevail and have taken steps all these years to amass wealth and political means to bring it back.


38 posted on 06/14/2013 10:53:48 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Gaffer
I wasn’t badmouthing back at you.

I know. I think we're in agreement here.
39 posted on 06/14/2013 11:05:06 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Sopater
I have no sympathy whatsoever for Nazis, even old ones. I am descended from German/Jewish immigrants. All of the family that they left behind ended up in Nazi concentration camps.

On the other hand, the guy is now 94 years old. What is the point of starting deportation proceedings when he is unlikely to live long enough to be deported?

I would much rather see the time and energy devoted to deporting illegal aliens who are living on welfare (like Obama's illegal alien Aunt) or who drive around drunk (like Obama's illegal alien Uncle).

40 posted on 06/14/2013 11:24:27 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: dfwgator

You’re right of course;I take some comfort in the fact that he gets to meet his Maker soon.Pretty soon the world’s going to run out of old Nazis,the new bunch is just as bad or worse.


41 posted on 06/14/2013 4:00:27 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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