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Gun control groups plan to try, try again
Washington Post ^ | June 11, 2013 | Ed O'Keefe

Posted on 06/12/2013 1:37:31 PM PDT by neverdem

Six months since the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., parents of some of the youngest victims plan to visit Capitol Hill again this week to meet with lawmakers about crafting a bill to impose stricter gun laws.

Gun-control groups are scheduling the parents to attend another round of meetings and other public events — including a reading of the names of people killed by guns since the Newtown shooting — in a push to restart debate on the issue sometime in the coming months.

But try as they might, prospects for a new gun-control bill appear to be no better than in April, when the Senate swiftly defeated a bipartisan gun-control bill and delivered an embarrassing defeat to President Obama. Plus, with the Senate already scheduled to spend most of June debating a bipartisan immigration overhaul bill, there’s little room for discussion of other issues.

On Monday, Vice President Biden — normally ebullient when discussing the administration’s priorities — seemed less than certain that gun-control will return to the fore in the Senate...

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Dan Gross, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said Monday that the lack of permanent leadership at the ATF “has gone on far too long, depriving the bureau of the stable leadership and the focus to carry out its vital missions including preventing violent crime.”...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; fastandfurious; guncontrol; secondamendment
Preventing violent crime like Fast and Furious with 3 dead Americans, a US Airman was killed in Mexico off duty with a F & F firearm, and hundreds of dead Mexicans with weapons procured by funds from the ATF?
1 posted on 06/12/2013 1:37:32 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Haters never voluntarily stop hating.


2 posted on 06/12/2013 1:39:23 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: neverdem

I can’t believe the parents of the dead children are pimping their loss for a bill that would do NOTHING to prevent what happened at Sandy Hook!


3 posted on 06/12/2013 1:41:01 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: neverdem

It seems to me that the country is “getting it” with regard to gun control. Unless there’s some massive event that changes everything, I think it’ll be another generation before significant gun control can be passed at the federal level.


4 posted on 06/12/2013 1:44:57 PM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: Renegade

We could make murder double, extra illegal.


5 posted on 06/12/2013 1:50:27 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: neverdem

I dislike “coffin as a soapbox” activists.

It is reprehensible and disgusting when used by sociopaths manipulating parents. (or worse when the sociopath is the parents.)


6 posted on 06/12/2013 2:02:58 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Oberon
Remember they have had months to mine the data on the Congress cell phones. I fear there are a few who have some skeletons in the closet that can be used for blackmail.
7 posted on 06/12/2013 2:12:37 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: neverdem

Thousands of gun laws on the books today and they think a few more are going to stop the criminal element? Beck’s right - it’s all about control, not about gun control.


8 posted on 06/12/2013 2:18:24 PM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: neverdem

Gun Control is so YESTERDAY. The Dems have bigger targets now with Amnesty.

Once they get Amnesty, they get a permanent majority, and, at that point, they can go back to taking away guns, and won’t even have to bother with the baby steps.

Too bad not enough Republicans can figure this out. It’s very hard for them, so I’ll try to help:

Amnesty EQUALS PERMANENT LIBERAL MAJORITY in Congress

Amnesty EQUALS PERMANENT DEMOCRAT PRESIDENTS

Amnesty EQUALS LIBERAL/SOCIALIST AGENDA for at least a generation, and that includes gun confiscation.


9 posted on 06/12/2013 2:56:27 PM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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To: neverdem

Read between the lines:

What they are really saying is that they are disappointed that another ‘horrific’ & exploitable massacre in a ‘gun free zone’ hasn’t taken place they can use to further destroy freedom.


10 posted on 06/12/2013 3:23:25 PM PDT by BerserkPatriot (Why is the Democratic National Socialist Committee waging a War on liberty?)
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To: BobL

Amnesty = GOP Suicide.

Amnesty = The end of the United States.

Amnesty = The end of the great American experiment in a Representative Republic.

Why in heavens name are they even thinking of doing this?????


11 posted on 06/12/2013 3:27:54 PM PDT by BerserkPatriot (Why is the Democratic National Socialist Committee waging a War on liberty?)
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To: BerserkPatriot; BobL
Simplifying ....

AMNESTY = Ball Game.

12 posted on 06/12/2013 3:39:24 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

agreed. However I’d like to add that NOW is the time for we the people to make it clear that our Constitutionally protected, God given rights are not negotiable. Whether it is the 2nd amendment or the 4th, the defeat must be so blistering that they simply won’t try it again for another generation or so.
If there aren’t enough Americans to do this now, there will never be again


13 posted on 06/12/2013 4:36:48 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot
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To: neverdem

“... or carving out exceptions for far-flung rural communities located hundreds of miles from the nearest gun store.”

My Right to Bear Arms will be determined by where I live ?

These idiots will never learn....


14 posted on 06/12/2013 4:53:31 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: neverdem

“Six months since the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., parents of some of the youngest victims plan to visit Capitol Hill again this week to meet with lawmakers about crafting a bill to impose stricter gun laws.”

Here’s the deal. You parents who saw your kids slaughtered is the result of trusting the safety of your children to a government that doesn’t give a shit.

Your children died because you, as parents, did not protect your most valuable possession - your children. Your kids are dead because of you.

Sorry that your kids died because of your stupidity, but you in no way and no how will disarm me from protecting my children You try it, and it will be the last thing you ever do.

I value my children more than you do.


15 posted on 06/12/2013 5:31:55 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: BerserkPatriot

“Why in heavens name are they even thinking of doing this?????”

Sounds like suicide, and it is, but not to this generation of politicians. They figure that they’ll be gone by the time the full effects hit.

But, in the meantime, they are facing a VERY NASTY bunch of RINO business owners that are sick of having to hire Illegals, since today’s (legal) high school kids are lucky to get up out of bed on the right day of the week, much less the right time.

Enter the Illegals, who show up for work, don’t complain, and usually do a really good job (and I know, many of them built the house that I’m in). The RINOs risk losing their workers or even going to jail due to being forced to hire Illegals, and they are tired of it.

So they make the sympathy case for the Illegals, and also the stick - no more money for you (Mr. Republican) if you don’t legalize them. And that is all that is needed for many. Of course with Rubio, it becomes an “ethnic thing” as he has to show his loyalty to what he considers to be his own kind. No different than Conlin Bowel, endorsing Obama, twice, for president.


16 posted on 06/12/2013 6:18:48 PM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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To: sergeantdave

Excellent post, sergeantdave.


17 posted on 06/12/2013 6:30:21 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 4, 2008 and November 6, 2012.....Two days that will live in infamy!)
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To: BobL

duh legalize them watch how fast they become lazy and welfare dependent


18 posted on 06/12/2013 6:30:23 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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19 posted on 06/12/2013 6:35:59 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: Renegade

ever been to the north east, trust me I lived there and they are brainwashed into thinking left wing crap, many hate guns and will use their kids death to promote their agenda


20 posted on 06/12/2013 6:39:04 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: rolling_stone

“duh legalize them watch how fast they become lazy and welfare dependent”

I’m with you, but the IDIOT business owners don’t see that. And it works in reverse - pull the ‘benefits’ and people will find work, and very quickly - because there is ALWAYS well-paying work out there - it’s just that you have to get your hands dirty or be tired when you get home.


21 posted on 06/12/2013 6:45:12 PM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


22 posted on 06/12/2013 7:53:29 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Delacon; Delmarksman; exit82; deweyfrank; NTHockey; imardmd1; Fishtalk
ping

(my Delaware Joe) Tsk.

23 posted on 06/12/2013 8:06:23 PM PDT by imardmd1 (An armed society is a polite society -- but dangerous for the fool --)
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To: BobL

“Enter the Illegals, who show up for work, don’t complain, and usually do a really good job”

Agreed. I know a lot of fabric district owners who say the same thing. My former boss who relocated back to canada for 10 years was impressed at the work ethic of illegals. As long as you pay them..

ALL of those business owners, however, have an extremely low opinion of blacks. The most common description I heard was lazy’. Here near Skid Row, the mexicans also have a low opinion of them too.


24 posted on 06/12/2013 8:30:18 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: neverdem
What part of “shall not be infringed.” do these people not understand. They all need to be arrested for treason.
25 posted on 06/13/2013 12:59:38 AM PDT by AirForce-TechSgt ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: Renegade
I can’t believe the parents of the dead children are pimping their loss for a bill that would do NOTHING to prevent what happened at Sandy Hook!

Liberals are irrational, emotional and ignorant.

26 posted on 06/13/2013 1:04:29 AM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: neverdem

We know that the Right doesn’t think the ATF is doing it’s job correctly and now it appears that the Left believes the same. How about we just shut ‘er down?


27 posted on 06/13/2013 2:07:56 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Renegade

Given the levels of abortion in America, ‘the parents of the dead children’ extends well beyond just the Sandy Hook parents.

Also, what about the parents of living children whose lives were saved by guns?

One of the problems with liberals is their single entry accounting practices when it comes to public policy. I mean if we were talking about Dr. Adam Lanza, abortionist, would this even be an issue?


28 posted on 06/13/2013 2:11:27 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Oberon

You mean like the one that’s being brainwashed/intimidated as we speak. Every suspension/punishment of a kindergardener sends a clear message to the other kiddies and their messed up parents too:

We will have gun control and you’ll vote your liberty away. We will not waste 13 years of mind control. You’ll vote our way or else we’ll withhold your transcripts.


29 posted on 06/13/2013 2:15:06 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: BobL

Their actions almost make you want to puke.

It would seem like there are a certain number of such traitors to liberty than don’t care about anything larger than themselves.


30 posted on 06/13/2013 6:29:56 AM PDT by BerserkPatriot (Why is the Democratic National Socialist Committee waging a War on liberty?)
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To: 1010RD

It’s the only issue they haven’t won on. Once their new voters are in place, they will have the Democrat numbers and the legislative means to take our guns too.


31 posted on 06/13/2013 6:33:23 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: neverdem

“...Gun control groups plan to try, try again...”

And we will fight them forever...again and again and again.


32 posted on 06/13/2013 7:03:18 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: neverdem
Dear 'gun control groups', please see: Definition of Insanity.

You lost you moron. Concealed Carry is even coming to Illinois now, the last of the last free fire zone for crazies.

And best of all, that includes Chicago. Your fascist buds couldn't stop it. The Bill is Veto Proof and Gov Potato Head has only until July 8th to sign it -- or -- worse for you quacks (ha-ha) -- Constitutional Carry becomes the law in the land in Illinois; No Permit Required Anywhere!

So give it up you sick Hoplophobes.

33 posted on 06/13/2013 7:30:10 AM PDT by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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