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NSA surveillance: anger mounts in Congress at 'spying on Americans'
The Guardian UK ^ | June 12, 2013 | Dan Roberts and Spencer Ackerman in Washington and Alan Travis in London

Posted on 06/12/2013 7:02:08 AM PDT by gethimoutofthehouse

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To: Wisconsinlady

Not all of them did. From the National Review:

In an interview on Laura Ingraham’s radio show Wednesday morning, the Republican congressman from Wisconsin reiterated his concerns that the administration and the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court have gone far beyond what the PATRIOT Act intended. Specifically, he said that Section 215 of the act “was originally drafted to prevent data mining” on the scale that’s occurred.

When asked whether he agreed with those in Washington calling leaker Edward Snowden a traitor, Sensenbrenner responded, “No, I don’t agree,” and said that he would not have known the extent of abuse by the FISA court and the NSA without Snowden’s disclosures.

The congressman has earlier said he believes the PATRIOT Act needs to be amended to protect Americans’ privacy.


101 posted on 06/12/2013 3:25:59 PM PDT by gethimoutofthehouse
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To: RetiredArmy

Roger That, amigo!


102 posted on 06/12/2013 4:03:30 PM PDT by Ax
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To: gethimoutofthehouse

As to be expected, more and more libs supporting whats-his-names spying on everyone and demanding Snowden be executed as a traitor and Greenwald be punished for reporting this. As to be expected, Republican after Republican supporting whats-his-names spying on everyone, demanding Snowden be arrested and tried as a traitor, and Greenwald be punished for reporting this. As to be expected, we have another minor, unimportant ‘kerfuffle’ that doesn’t have any legs. As to be expected, whats-his-name will skate away once again unscathed.


103 posted on 06/12/2013 9:25:32 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: schm0e
thx. if it weren’t for the Guardian, how would we know what’s going on here?

There's always the Daily Mail.

104 posted on 06/12/2013 10:58:53 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: grania

BTTT!


105 posted on 06/13/2013 5:46:01 AM PDT by bayouranger (How do you coexist with a neighbor who has the ethical choice of jihad of murder and deceit? -Dr.B.W)
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To: gethimoutofthehouse

106 posted on 06/13/2013 5:49:20 AM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: gethimoutofthehouse

Anger over gambling in this casino


107 posted on 06/13/2013 5:49:58 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: gethimoutofthehouse

What about the DMV lists in some states of the vanity license plates holders? I’m talking about the pro-life plates in Florida and the other states that have them.

Do the feds or IRS get that list info ? Do they target those faithful?


108 posted on 06/13/2013 7:28:29 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: gethimoutofthehouse

I thought I read somewhere else that the entire body of congress was briefed on this already. Which is it?


109 posted on 06/13/2013 7:33:36 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey NSA Goon watching FR... Suck this - > |=====>)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
what’s this on Drudge about an allegation that IRS took 80 million medical records???

IRS needed those records to check to make sure everyone was taking the correct medical deduction on Schedule A. /s

110 posted on 06/13/2013 7:39:55 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey NSA Goon watching FR... Suck this - > |=====>)
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To: Ax
I would hope that there enough patriots in all the agencies to throw up a strong line of defense that can keep the enemies, both foreign and DOMESTIC, at bay until the cavalry arrives in Jan 2017.

Sadly, if immigration bill passes, you can forget that thought.

111 posted on 06/13/2013 7:59:33 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey NSA Goon watching FR... Suck this - > |=====>)
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To: Ax

I believe you, but there has been mission creep it seems.

I almost went to work for the NSA right out of graduate school (mathematics). Decided to join industry instead.


112 posted on 06/13/2013 8:30:57 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: oblomov

Turns out your decision to go private was a wise one, given everything that’s happened recently.


113 posted on 06/13/2013 9:15:58 AM PDT by Ax (E)
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To: chessplayer
I'm sorry, but I don't agree with you. The artful dodger who creates crisis after crisis ad nauseum will not skate away again but will find himself in hot water when he puts his foot in his mouth.
114 posted on 06/13/2013 12:58:55 PM PDT by gethimoutofthehouse
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To: chessplayer

I’m sorry, but I don’t agree with you. The artful dodger who creates crisis after crisis to get attention off the current crisis will not skate away again. All these crises point to a massive coverup which will make the American people forget about Greenwald and Snowden.


115 posted on 06/13/2013 1:04:07 PM PDT by gethimoutofthehouse
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To: gethimoutofthehouse

Re: U.S. Government corrupt employees committing despotism, discrimination, targeting, fraud, kick-backs, nepotism, etc. - So far we have the IRS, Freedom of the Press DOJ snooping, Benghazi, NSA data-mining, ObamaCare (strong-arm no-choice health insurance with fines), National Guard spending thirty-million for sponsorships on wrestling and NASCAR events, government employees paid sex scandal and a host of other government departments’ corruption activities, etc.

NSA data-mining director Alexander said it helped prevent dozens of terrorist events… Well, prove your statement to the American people and show & tell us about WHO, WHAT and WHERE; and name the trial dates and convictions of the terrorists that you caught from this data-mining. Terrorist aren’t that dumb; I would think that they would use throw-away phones, cb-radios, pay-phones, borrowed and/or stolen computers and other stolen equipment, hacking router software, etc.; besides stealing peoples identity information to carry out their meaningless lowlife activities.

NSA says that they are only interested in foreign phone calls incoming to the USA. Well, Wall Street alone must get millions of foreign phone calls daily during Stock Exchange hours from investors. Are we to believe that all of these foreign phone calls are being dissected and put through the FISA courts? Can you imagine the large amounts of money that is costing the taxpayer for this paranoid non-sense?

Understanding data-mining at these sites:

http://beforeitsnews.com/spies-and-intelligence/2013/06/anonymous-releases-private-nsa-documents-regarding-spying-2444842.html

http://pastebin.com/MPpT7xaf

Thirteen billion dollar NSA data-mining / overall surveillance is unconstitutional. It’s a way to steal trade secrets, inventions, creative ideas, scientific experiments and discoveries, future information about mergers that are in private discussion, advance information on securities before press releases, etc.; and this data-mining can be used for targeting, blackmail and identity-theft. Our U.S. Congress must stop all financing for this NSA data-mining / overall surveillance and shut this activity down immediately. All private contract bids must be investigated to learn the flow of money. The secret FISA courts must be abolished.

Corrupt government employees are using privacy Regulations and Unions to hide certain information from the public. Our U.S. Congress should vote on a new Bill to abolish these cover-up Regulations and Unions so that all investigations can move swiftly forward to get to the truth publicly. Also we must hire “mystery shoppers” to do surveillance on government employees besides having all their offices outfitted with surveillance cameras for Americans to view.

Americans would love to hear from thousands of government employee whistleblowers disclosures. Edward Snowden is a hero, a true patriot to our U.S. Constitution and its freedoms that it protects. It is obvious that many of our government employees have been using their jobs for substantial corruption throughout the years. It’s all about money and deranged power.

Policy is not law.
Opinion is not law.
Politics is not law.
Our U.S. Constitution and the freedoms that it protects is the law of this land, period.

U.S. Government employees whether elected, appointed or hired must cherish and abide our U.S. Constitution and the freedoms that it protects 100% percent. Anyone that presents an exempt to tread heavily on any freedom should be hung.

Take a stand against the IRS and other government corruption activities. The Tea Party Patriots is hosting an “Audit the IRS Rally” Wednesday, June 19, 2013 from Noon to 2pm at the West Lawn of US Capitol. Bring your voice.


116 posted on 06/14/2013 1:31:01 AM PDT by Vahlsing
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To: Vahlsing

You are so right! If they are so interested in catching terrorists, then why did the WTC bombing in 1993 happen? Why didn’t Susan Rice, yes, that Susan Rice, let Sudan turn Osama Bin Laden over to the US? See http://www.westernjournalism.com/?s=susan+rice+has+blood+on+her+hands for more on that. Why did they miss the warnings of the Russian government about the Boston bombers? They call that a war on terror—where they just let the terrorists go free?


117 posted on 06/14/2013 7:35:09 AM PDT by gethimoutofthehouse
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