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NSA surveillance: anger mounts in Congress at 'spying on Americans'
The Guardian UK ^ | June 12, 2013 | Dan Roberts and Spencer Ackerman in Washington and Alan Travis in London

Posted on 06/12/2013 7:02:08 AM PDT by gethimoutofthehouse

Anger was mounting in Congress on Tuesday night as politicians, briefed for the first time after revelations about the government's surveillance dragnet, vowed to rein in a system that one said amounted to "spying on Americans".

Intelligence chiefs and FBI officials had hoped that the closed-door briefing with a full meeting of the House of Representatives would help reassure members about the widespread collection of US phone records revealed by the Guardian.

But senior figures from both parties emerged from the meeting alarmed at the extent of a surveillance program that many claimed never to have heard of until whistleblower Edward Snowden leaked a series of top-secret documents.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: benghazi; congress; fastandfurious; govtabuse; impeachnow; irs; nsa; rapeofliberty; tyranny
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1 posted on 06/12/2013 7:02:08 AM PDT by gethimoutofthehouse
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To: gethimoutofthehouse

*snicker*

They’re so cute when they try to pretend to be angry at something they support. They’re so much like their daddy Obama.


2 posted on 06/12/2013 7:04:01 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: gethimoutofthehouse

Interesting that on last night’s Fox News panel A.B. Stoddard (from the left) thought it unlikely they’d monkey with the Patriot Act, while Stephen Hayes (from the right) thought it very likely that they would.


3 posted on 06/12/2013 7:05:21 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: gethimoutofthehouse

Anybody know if the briefing will be televised on c-span?


4 posted on 06/12/2013 7:07:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: gethimoutofthehouse

I think that even low information voters don’t like having people listen in on their calls. Might have something to do with buying and selling drugs or other stuff.


5 posted on 06/12/2013 7:10:51 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: gethimoutofthehouse

Selective Outrage?


6 posted on 06/12/2013 7:15:45 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals
Selective Outrage?

More like feigned outrage. Nothing outrages anyone in DC, except things like Christianity or free enterprise.

7 posted on 06/12/2013 7:18:50 AM PDT by Spirochete (Sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Is Snowden the whistleblower mentioned by beck that will only appear in front on congress on live TV?

On Beck thread mentioned to check his resume timeline!
Going to press in February and working three months for data mining doesn’t compute. He was/is CIA They’ve got our back


8 posted on 06/12/2013 7:18:51 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: gethimoutofthehouse
I watched that limp-wristed Graham on Greta last night. She was on fire and was pushing him all over the place.

It is obvious from Graham's statements and responses that he is under serious blackmail threats from Obama. His defenses were pathetic and he failed to directly answer her questions.

If he were a man, I would have been embarassed for him the way she was bitch-slapping him all over the set!

9 posted on 06/12/2013 7:18:55 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: Enterprise

A lot of these low-info voters (especially the under-30 crowd) eat, live and breathe online 24/7. Online privacy to them is sacrosanct (as is their conviction that everything online should be free). This one could actually do some damage to the Obamaworship Coalition.

Especially if anyone has the guts to buy ads and start running back those B.S. Obama campaign speeches on the subject.


10 posted on 06/12/2013 7:20:30 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Enterprise

I’m a retired NSA officer. During all my 33 years of service with the Agency, I NEVER targeted any US person. We were focused on the main adversary until the fall of the USSR. I spent most of my career out on the tip of the spear and we lived under the rule that any attempt to target a US person would lead to dismissal or prosecution. I am proudly wearing my cap with the Agency’s shield.


11 posted on 06/12/2013 7:21:03 AM PDT by Ax
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To: Spirochete

just want to add the press to your statement.


12 posted on 06/12/2013 7:23:02 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Ax

Thank You! Your number is shrinking ... May you continue to warn us.


13 posted on 06/12/2013 7:24:17 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Ax

I pray you dance!


14 posted on 06/12/2013 7:25:12 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Ax

Isn’t this type of overreach the reason Bill Ayers walks free today?


15 posted on 06/12/2013 7:26:34 AM PDT by lone star annie
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To: gethimoutofthehouse

Now we’d really like to hear from Gen. Petraeus on the blackmail that he was subjected to. That would make interesting testimony.


16 posted on 06/12/2013 7:26:42 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: cripplecreek

NSA Chief Testifies at Cybersecurity Hearing

NSA chief Gen. Keith Alexander is one of the witnesses at a Senate Appropriations Committee hearing on enduring cybersecurity threats. He takes questions on recent leaks revealing the extent of domestic phone surveillance by the NSA.
NSA Chief Testifies at Cybersecurity Hearing

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17 posted on 06/12/2013 7:27:18 AM PDT by gethimoutofthehouse
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To: gethimoutofthehouse

at least these authors, of the article, didn’t hide behind Staff. In America our articles of this type are written by the keyword ... Staff.


18 posted on 06/12/2013 7:29:57 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Ax

I can only conclude that Obama ordered the NSA to break the law.


19 posted on 06/12/2013 7:30:15 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: brownsfan

Exactly!

Or.. act as if it’s the first time they’ve heard about it!


20 posted on 06/12/2013 7:30:52 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: gethimoutofthehouse
"I am here to reveal criminality"
Edward Snowden, June 12 - SouthChine Morning Post

What say you, Sen. Feinstein?

21 posted on 06/12/2013 7:42:59 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: gethimoutofthehouse

Isn’t this a gross violation of the Fourth Amendment?


22 posted on 06/12/2013 7:43:32 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: gethimoutofthehouse

[But senior figures from both parties emerged from the meeting alarmed at the extent of a surveillance program that many claimed never to have heard of until whistleblower Edward Snowden leaked a series of top-secret documents.]

Because..... a $40 BILLION data center in UTAH gets built without their knowledge or voting to authorize the funding to pay for it ?


23 posted on 06/12/2013 7:48:57 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: brownsfan
They’re so cute when they try to pretend to be angry at something they support. They’re so much like their daddy Obama.

Their public indignation will evaporate as soon as the Obama administration assures them that their individual communications are secure from all monitoring and tracking.


24 posted on 06/12/2013 8:05:06 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama-Ville - Land of The Freebies, Home of the Enslaved)
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To: UCANSEE2

Yet we have a Boehner calling Snowden a traitor.


25 posted on 06/12/2013 8:09:25 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: cripplecreek

after the last couple of days on here then it’s scary to see a couple , thankfully just a couple who has no problem with spying on us all and would rather attack the guy who told the world how the obama Govt is breaking the law and the constitution and then I was asked off one if I love obama while they defend spying, you can’t even make any of this up anymore and how stupid the country has become


26 posted on 06/12/2013 8:10:18 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: gethimoutofthehouse
we're a melting pot... some americans are not that american...
27 posted on 06/12/2013 8:11:14 AM PDT by Drawn7979
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To: Redleg Duke

Seen Greta lately and she is on fire ,her time slot needs to take over Hannity and what is great is that she knows the law and can put the likes of Graham on his back


28 posted on 06/12/2013 8:11:32 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Ax

thank you, I’m sick of seeing a couple of freepers keep saying this is nothing because the NSA has been doing it for years.


29 posted on 06/12/2013 8:13:05 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: txrefugee

and judge Roberts


30 posted on 06/12/2013 8:13:26 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

Its kinda funny how desperate our government is to get this dangerous “spy” yet want him extradited for unlawful use of a computer.

If they want to extradite him for treason then they need to man up and extradite him for treason but I suspect they can’t.


31 posted on 06/12/2013 8:16:13 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: gethimoutofthehouse

“There was a letter that we were supposed to have received in 2011 but I can’t find it and most of my friends in Congress did not receive this either,” said New Jersey Democrat Bill Pascrell, who claimed the widespread collection of phone data amounted to “spying on Americans … This is one of the first briefings I have been to where I actually learned something.””

interesting


32 posted on 06/12/2013 8:18:22 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I wonder what the point. Both the Bush & Obama Regimes lied to get what they wanted in wiretaps, or overstepped their bounds, or just did what they wanted anyway. When everything is secret, including the supposed checks and balances, it is near impossible to trust anyone in this regard.


33 posted on 06/12/2013 8:19:58 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Redleg Duke
If he (Graham) were a man...

And not a total idiot. He, or anyone else whose irrational votes come to mind, should just own up to anything at all. Then say they're sorry for what they did but they're owning up and casting votes that might save the US, they won't be intimidated. I think at this point we'd forgive ANYTHING whatever the feds have on them.

But I will not forgive casting a vote against the nation to save oneself from personal embarrassment.

34 posted on 06/12/2013 8:20:38 AM PDT by grania
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To: brownsfan

*snicker*

They’re so cute when they try to pretend to be angry at something they support. They’re so much like their daddy Obama.


Exactly. My first thought upon reading the headline was, “Faux anger and crocodile tears.” Nope, not buying it.


35 posted on 06/12/2013 8:21:08 AM PDT by Student0165
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To: gethimoutofthehouse

Well, thank God and the Constitution that we have freedom of the press in this country to bring this sort of thing into the light. What a pity “this country” no longer means “America”.


36 posted on 06/12/2013 8:21:42 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: cripplecreek

exactly

he;s a traitor , ok what has he stolen,

er I don’t know

ok what has he done to hurt our safety ?

er I don’t know.

OK why is he a traitor then?

Er he gave ur secrets away

what secrets

I don’t know

That is how stupid many have become in the country today, they hear a talking head, and then they repeat the talking point B/S points.

Heard today again off Guilliani that he;s a high school drop out, , which is another Alinsky tactic, but so is Richard Branson of Virgin airways, so are other billionaires , plus I;ve met many ids who take their GED because they want out of school, they hate school, they want to go to college or get a job earlier and so that he;s a school drop out sums up how pathetic the stupid party is


37 posted on 06/12/2013 8:22:48 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: grania

but they want to now give millions of illegals a reward and yet again our voices are not heard


38 posted on 06/12/2013 8:24:00 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: PghBaldy
what we have here by using a curt in their talking points is a cop out It's a secret program run by the obama Govt. who then goes to a secret court who has secret judges who was appointed by who? who then hears the evidence from only the obama Govt. Are you kidding me that this is legal? The whole court is a cop out the spying is illegal and charges should be brought forward not just to Holder, IRS etc but also to those in power who ordered this including Bush if need be enough is enough with these elitist ruling class assholes
39 posted on 06/12/2013 8:26:30 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Billthedrill
Thank God that this country, America, still has the Constitution and that the Left has not succeeded in annulling it. Thank God we still do have freedom of the press; and by the grace of God, Obama has not been able to close the press down.
40 posted on 06/12/2013 8:27:44 AM PDT by gethimoutofthehouse
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To: cripplecreek

They’d want a secret trial which really won’t go over well.


41 posted on 06/12/2013 8:27:45 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: gethimoutofthehouse; Nachum

Obama Admin Lying - Democrat Sen Wyden: James Clapper Didn’t Give “Straight Answers” On NSA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMWbTS2VSCo

New Info From Unprecedented Series Of Briefing On NSA Spying Program!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkMNcACT3cM


42 posted on 06/12/2013 8:33:18 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: gethimoutofthehouse

thx. if it weren’t for the Guardian, how would we know what’s going on here?


43 posted on 06/12/2013 8:34:53 AM PDT by schm0e ("we are in the midst of a coup.")
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To: wiggen

Snowden is a hero! The members of Congress who still defend the surveillance are traitors who should be tried for treason.


44 posted on 06/12/2013 8:36:07 AM PDT by gethimoutofthehouse
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To: gethimoutofthehouse

I’m with you.


45 posted on 06/12/2013 8:41:45 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Ax

It is refreshing to hear/read of your kind of guy/gal. Thank you for being an American.


46 posted on 06/12/2013 8:44:46 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: brownsfan
-- They're so cute when they try to pretend to be angry at something they support. --

Heheheh. So true. And, even if they are genuinely concerned or angry, at this point, what difference does it make? They can't fix it, they can't reign it in. All they can do is vent. And, as they do so, it will be with both eyes on reelection.

47 posted on 06/12/2013 8:45:50 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: gethimoutofthehouse

BS. Congress is mad the NSA was spying on them. Many in Congress officially KNOW the NSA spies on US citizens.


48 posted on 06/12/2013 8:46:01 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: gethimoutofthehouse
The Government Accountability Office reports that 4.8 million federal employees and contractors hold clearances, without 'clearly defined policy' for determining which positions need them, leading to 'inconsistent and improper' designations. It's also time to heed the warning of the late Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan that the government keeps far too many secrets. Then perhaps it will be able to do a better job of protecting what really should be secret.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323495604578537332863362470.html

49 posted on 06/12/2013 9:05:02 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: brownsfan

Isn’t that the truth...


50 posted on 06/12/2013 9:06:35 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Give me your tired, your hungry..., wait, we've got them. They're our citizens... What about them?)
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