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Spread the Word About What the Senate Is Doing
Heritage Foundation ^ | 6/12/2013 | Amy Payne

Posted on 06/12/2013 5:08:09 AM PDT by IbJensen

The Senate voted yesterday to move forward on the Gang of Eight’s immigration plan—which would grant amnesty to 11 million illegal immigrants.

Insanity is often defined as doing the same thing over and over yet expecting a different result. As Heritage’s David Inserra points out, “Instead of new ideas, the current bill is essentially just recycling the flawed and failed ideas of the past.”

Remember, once amnesty is granted it can never be taken away. Senator Chuck Grassley (R-IA) took to the Senate floor yesterday to outline several reasons why we may be asking for a mulligan on this amnesty proposal.

With this bill, the American people are being sold a product. They’re being asked to accept legalization. And in exchange, they’d be assured through this legislation that the laws are going to be enforced. But this “product” contains all sorts of hidden agendas and faulty promises, with no guarantees that the promises will come true once the amnesty is in place.

“The Obama Administration has pushed the envelope by waiving welfare laws,” Grassley reminded the Senate, so why should we assume the Administration wouldn’t do it again? “The reality check for the American people is that there are loopholes and the potential for public benefits to go to those who are legalized under the bill.”

The danger of putting too many things in one bill is that you end up having to pass it to see what’s in it. But we know one thing: Amnesty for illegal immigrants is the first order of business.

We’ve tried it before, and it didn’t work. This is the wrong way to address a serious issue with trillions in taxpayer dollars at stake.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: amnesty; evilobamaregime; inanecongress; stopillegals
mericans are being treated with comtempt by a Congress composed of mostly idiots who traded on whatever personality they had to gain votes to catapault into a cushy career. They allow legislation like this illegal housebreaker bill to go forward while the Obamacare nightmare lies festering like a boil ready to pop. They are eager to get this mess behind them that resulted from deliberately not enforcing the policing of our southern borders which allowed the castoff scum of other nations' societies to illegally enter our nation to sop up all the benefits shoveled out by an out of control government to morons incapable of getting out of bed.

Then there's the semi-secret spy center under construction in the Utah hinterlands that will crawl into our lives beginning this fall. They completely ignore this most important act that is truly aimed at dissenting Americans to go forward without comment.

This entire government is rotten to the core.

When one considers the hundreds of thousands of Americans killed in wars to free other nations and think about their deaths to protect the 'Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave' then see the parade of nincompoops their deaths empowered it makes one want to puke their guts out! Consider what now sits pompously in the White Hut and those who play their complicit roles in Congress....they died for this; for these? They died so a phony nobody hellbent on killing America could be elected and reelected to destroy that which they believed they were fighting and dying?

Memorial Day doesn't mean a damn thing to this nation any longer!

1 posted on 06/12/2013 5:08:10 AM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen

Granting themselves immunity? Oops .. sorry ... they already have that.


2 posted on 06/12/2013 5:09:31 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: IbJensen
with trillions in taxpayer dollars at stake.

The senate says ... it's not our money.

3 posted on 06/12/2013 5:11:31 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: IbJensen

Good rant!

Good, because I agree with every word. We’re in a hell of a fix these days.


4 posted on 06/12/2013 5:14:52 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: no-to-illegals

Technically the Senate is correct.

This money ceased to belong to us after we allowed the IRS (this central socialist government’s NKVD) to mug us and extort a large portion of our wages. This, then, is handed over to this evil government who flushes most of it down the toilet never to be seen or legitimately used forever.

They use it, for example, to build a mammoth communications spy center, mostly in secret, in the Utah desert. There are so many examples of the squandering of that extorted money that it should make Americans rise up in revolt against these revolting developments.


5 posted on 06/12/2013 5:18:03 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen
I agree with most of what you stated but Memorial Day is still what it was, remembrance of our war dead. Perhaps you might consider substituting Independence Day (4th of July for the low information types) and/or Constitution Day as not meaning anything anymore.

I wish to add one thing to your prescient piece too, not only are we getting the scum from elsewhere, unskilled and under motivated, we are paying their way once they get here. This fact virtually sets my hair on fire on this issue as my predecessors arrived here and either supported themselves or were taken care of by their sponsors who were not the taxpayers of the country but relatives, friends, or employers.

6 posted on 06/12/2013 5:18:37 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: IbJensen; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

With all these problems and misdeeds and scandals coming out the past few months Obama needs a legacy win badly right now and many traitors in the GOP appear ready to hand it to him.

Hispanics will give Obama all the credit for this if it passes and will just assume (correctly) that the GOP is just selling out to business who want more potential workers.


7 posted on 06/12/2013 5:19:20 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: IbJensen

Am too old to rise up here. I’ll be one of the first to be gone when the rise up comes.


8 posted on 06/12/2013 5:19:54 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: IbJensen
The Senate voted yesterday to move forward on the Gang of Eight’s immigration plan—which would grant amnesty to 11 million illegal immigrants.

As if this were limited to this mythological "11 million."

Funny how that number has remained static for more than a decade, as thousands more have continued to stream across our unsecured borders daily.

Last time they pulled this nonsense the number was three times what they promised.

Figure on at least 33 million availing themselves of this amnesty should it take effect.

And remember this, once they've done it, they will again draw in ten times that number.

Ready for the next wave, which will almost certainly be equal to our current population?

Hey, China and India have hundreds of millions to spare!

Why wouldn't they come, secure in the knowledge that American sovereignty and the rule of law are a dead letter?

9 posted on 06/12/2013 5:20:10 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (STOP AMNESTY NOW!)
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To: sickoflibs

His legacy may be the strategically located centers of detention for dissenting Americans. We are the ‘trouble’ he sees with Americans who refuse to share his diseased mind’s view of what this nation should be.

But back to his legacy he’ll leave for the legions of happy socialists to remember him by:

Barack Obama Work Camp numbers 1-10.

‘Your work will make you free.’

This is what legions of young Americans have died for. To have a repulsive, evil, phony nobody sit in the oval office like the pompous ass he truly is and work diligently towards the ruination of our nation and our lives.


10 posted on 06/12/2013 5:23:23 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: EternalVigilance
33 million

in my humble opinion figure twice to three times that number.

11 posted on 06/12/2013 5:23:24 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: IbJensen
yep and Ronald Reagan told the truth ... no wonder the left hate this Great Man.
12 posted on 06/12/2013 5:25:25 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Mouton

If we wish to leave our nation and take up residency in a developed country we have to have money and sign an agreement that we will NEVER attempt to obtain government aid.

Our politicians are rapidly turning America into a garbage dump.


13 posted on 06/12/2013 5:27:15 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: no-to-illegals

That’s why I said “at least.” I was being conservative.


14 posted on 06/12/2013 5:31:46 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (STOP AMNESTY NOW!)
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To: IbJensen

Assuming when you apply for entry into another country for residence there, they accept it. Unless you have a skill, they don’t want people who just wish to retire elsewhere. My skill days are passed but my wife will be my VISA enabler!


15 posted on 06/12/2013 5:33:54 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: IbJensen
Remember folks vote come November and get these criminals out of office it might be to late for this but they will be passing all sort of other crap we do not want..with these 11million how much of a chance is there for us to get our country back..when we know they will vote democrat.once the bunch of thieves and rapist get here our country will go to pot it will all (except Texas) look like Detroit see what that place looks like now..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6WKMNmFsxM

16 posted on 06/12/2013 5:34:01 AM PDT by PLD (Life is short...forgive quickly, love truly, laugh uncontrollably¬Ö and never regret anything that)
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To: EternalVigilance

my apology, sometimes I miss words when reading.


17 posted on 06/12/2013 5:35:08 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals

No biggie.


18 posted on 06/12/2013 5:41:10 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (STOP AMNESTY NOW!)
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To: EternalVigilance
Sometimes I just have to close my eyes and let my heart lead the way.
19 posted on 06/12/2013 5:44:42 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals
Am too old to rise up here. I’ll be one of the first to be gone when the rise up comes.

During the Late Unpleasantness, the town of Natchez, Mississippi had a guard group know as the "Silver Grays" for obvious reasons. Anyone capable of shouldering a rifle will have a part to play in the next civil war as well.

20 posted on 06/12/2013 5:55:18 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Charles Martel

I will, if God allows.


21 posted on 06/12/2013 5:56:42 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: IbJensen
It is not immigration law that is broken, it is immigration law enforcement that is broken.
22 posted on 06/12/2013 5:58:19 AM PDT by CPOSharky (zero slogan: Expect less, pay more. (apologies to Target))
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To: IbJensen
This money ceased to belong to us after we allowed the IRS (this central socialist government’s NKVD) to mug us and extort a large portion of our wages. This, then, is handed over to this evil government who flushes most of it down the toilet never to be seen or legitimately used forever.

Really? I thought the Federal Reserve would be more of a "our money isn't outs" causation.

23 posted on 06/12/2013 6:21:38 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: IbJensen

I only hope that the thinking is to let it out for a floor vote so they can kill it outright and not let it drag on.


24 posted on 06/12/2013 6:51:10 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: IbJensen
South Carolina State Senator Lee Bright:

"On immigration, Senator Marco Rubio says that amnesty for illegals should come before border security. How can something so obviously flawed seem logical to some people?"

https://www.facebook.com/senatorleebright

25 posted on 06/12/2013 6:52:56 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: IbJensen

26 posted on 06/12/2013 7:41:31 AM PDT by mirkwood
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To: OneWingedShark

At any rate, OWS, this nation could survive if we could turn back the Congressional and legislative clock back to 1911.

If that could happen, a million tons of waste paper and computer space would be freed up. The paper would be burned and the American experiment could have become the American dream.

If only, if only, if only.

If only our borders had remained secure and if only we had a Congress that wasn’t pathetically stupid.


27 posted on 06/12/2013 7:44:05 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen

Revolt is coming.


28 posted on 06/12/2013 8:28:05 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: IbJensen
And in exchange, they’d be assured through this legislation that the laws are going to be enforced.

Several million new voters might not want those laws to stand.

29 posted on 06/12/2013 9:06:50 AM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: no-to-illegals; IbJensen

” with trillions in taxpayer dollars at stake.

The senate says ... it’s not our money. “

It’s all gone, anyway.

CW2 is beginning to look like a “modest proposal”


30 posted on 06/12/2013 9:53:56 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: stephenjohnbanker

modesty, a long lost word.


31 posted on 06/12/2013 9:55:48 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: sickoflibs

” Hispanics will give Obama all the credit for this if it passes and will just assume (correctly) that the GOP is just selling out to business who want more potential workers.”

Correct.


32 posted on 06/12/2013 11:17:49 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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