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To: Alter Kaker

Meh. So, there are a lot of pussified asshats in the senate who think it has some meaning to anyone but their fellow toe-tapping butt buddies to be ‘reasonable’ and ‘have the debate’.

The rubber meets the road when it’s time to end debate. People went ballistic about the gun bill getting it’s first vote to start debate and it did pass the 60 vote threshold to end debate. Time will tell if this does.

On a related note: I wonder if Mark Kirk had another stroke or if the effects of the first one made him push the wrong button.


115 posted on 06/11/2013 1:36:30 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

whoops!

...it did NOT pass the 60 vote threshold...


118 posted on 06/11/2013 1:37:57 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

What is telling though is nothing is changing for the better. We are told these issues are not going away (all of these issues) by leaders. They keep coming back, over and over and over. These issues should not even be up for debate yet consistently they make it to the floor for debate. Guns aka the Second, Free Speech aka the First and what is illegal should be legal. This causes angst where there should be none over what should be decided issues in America. Eventually one looks at the homosexual agenda and then the moslem agenda and one sees them winning when they should not be winning. I have voted since was of legal age and done my best to obey the law, and what is the government that is supposed to be representing America and Americans doing? Is heartbreaking.


120 posted on 06/11/2013 1:46:37 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Procedurally, do they have to vote again on cloture after the bill is debated and amended on the Senate floor? Or will it take just 51 votes to get out of the Senate?


123 posted on 06/11/2013 2:05:03 PM PDT by kabar
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