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Senate votes 82-15 in first step to debate immigration reform
The Hill ^ | June 11, 2013 | Ramsey Cox

Posted on 06/11/2013 11:55:47 AM PDT by Alter Kaker

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To: boxlunch

If the roots of this don’t go back to April 9, 1865; maybe they go to March 31, 2005, when the American people cheered as a helpless disabled woman was starved before our eyes.


101 posted on 06/11/2013 1:16:08 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I agree with you that GA has hardly ever elected anyone good, and I doubt that will change.


102 posted on 06/11/2013 1:19:12 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Alter Kaker

I looked carefully at your list and did not see my traitorous idiotic senator LaRaza Rubio’s name. Then I figured you may have been counting him as a democrat already which would be appropriate.

If he skipped the vote, I’m sure it’s because he does not want to be on record as voting yes. He will be up for re-election in 4 years and the fraudulent “conservative” wants to be able to remind everyone of his high ACU rating when he runs.


103 posted on 06/11/2013 1:19:33 PM PDT by Waryone (Trust the Lord not your own understanding. Acknowledge Him. He will direct your path.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Boehner will certainly sell us out. Past is Prologue.


104 posted on 06/11/2013 1:19:42 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Theodore R.

Exactly.


105 posted on 06/11/2013 1:21:52 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: no-to-illegals

It’s good that Republican voters tend to be individuals; but the crisis is too great to quarrel over four or five “conservative” primary candidates and then allow the liberal to win by default.


106 posted on 06/11/2013 1:22:27 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: snarkytart

You must be reading Toomey’s mind, but Toomey will never get 1,302-0 in select Philadelphia precincts.


107 posted on 06/11/2013 1:24:17 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Theodore R.

Actually we are probably going to replace Chambliss next year with now rep Paul Broun a hair on fire conservative.


108 posted on 06/11/2013 1:25:13 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Theodore R.

I have nearly given up ... Praise God He let me live when He did ... and Praise God He let me be alive long enough to see what America and Americans were warned of coming to pass. I know not what God has in store for me in the coming near time ... I Praise Him though for what He has allowed me to see.


109 posted on 06/11/2013 1:28:09 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Alter Kaker

REMEMBER THAT 16 REPUBLICANS VOTED FOR CLOTURE ON THE GUN BILL AS WELL! IT’S NOT OVER! KEEP CALLING!


110 posted on 06/11/2013 1:28:34 PM PDT by struggle
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To: Jane Long; AuntB

You got a problem with me including my friend AuntB ???


111 posted on 06/11/2013 1:30:22 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: struggle
I pray you are correct FRiend ... Too tired to fight much longer.
112 posted on 06/11/2013 1:30:54 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Theodore R.
If the roots of this don’t go back to April 9, 1865; maybe they go to March 31, 2005, when the American people cheered as a helpless disabled woman was starved before our eyes.

I think you broke the code.It has been downhill for the GOP and America ever since.

113 posted on 06/11/2013 1:34:16 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: struggle

Folks may want to read the following post from earlier today.

Wake Up! (Republican Elite Pushing Immigration Bill)

Tuesday, June 11, 2013 12:36:48 PM · by mojito · 31 replies
Daily Caller ^ | 6/11/2013 | Mickey Kaus


114 posted on 06/11/2013 1:36:03 PM PDT by billys kid ("Bury me on my head for one day this world will be upside down." (Diogenes))
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To: Alter Kaker

Meh. So, there are a lot of pussified asshats in the senate who think it has some meaning to anyone but their fellow toe-tapping butt buddies to be ‘reasonable’ and ‘have the debate’.

The rubber meets the road when it’s time to end debate. People went ballistic about the gun bill getting it’s first vote to start debate and it did pass the 60 vote threshold to end debate. Time will tell if this does.

On a related note: I wonder if Mark Kirk had another stroke or if the effects of the first one made him push the wrong button.


115 posted on 06/11/2013 1:36:30 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: Tennessee Nana; AuntB

Did I say that?


116 posted on 06/11/2013 1:36:46 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: exit82

Having recently reread a history of the French revolution, I feel that it appears to be the eventual outcome of the current Alice-in-Wonderland “bizarrity”. Time will tell.


117 posted on 06/11/2013 1:37:30 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

whoops!

...it did NOT pass the 60 vote threshold...


118 posted on 06/11/2013 1:37:57 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: hal ogen

I don’t know much about the French Revolution, but they were an advanced cultured society that spun out of control and into mayhem and chaos rather easily.

We have never experienced this, but how can we think defying natural laws will result in a different ending?


119 posted on 06/11/2013 1:41:23 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

What is telling though is nothing is changing for the better. We are told these issues are not going away (all of these issues) by leaders. They keep coming back, over and over and over. These issues should not even be up for debate yet consistently they make it to the floor for debate. Guns aka the Second, Free Speech aka the First and what is illegal should be legal. This causes angst where there should be none over what should be decided issues in America. Eventually one looks at the homosexual agenda and then the moslem agenda and one sees them winning when they should not be winning. I have voted since was of legal age and done my best to obey the law, and what is the government that is supposed to be representing America and Americans doing? Is heartbreaking.


120 posted on 06/11/2013 1:46:37 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Theodore R.
Boehner said he believes that passing an immigration bill in the House is the most important thing on his agenda this year. He added that he expects Obama to sign a bill by the end of the year.

“I’m hopeful that we’ll have a product come out of the committee by the end of June,” Bohener said. “I believe that it’s important for the House to work its will on this issue. And I would expect that a House bill will be to the right of where the Senate is.”

121 posted on 06/11/2013 2:02:22 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Democrat_media
The IRS rigged the 2012 election by preventing conservative groups from getting started

And just for good measure, the NSA hacked the voting machines.

122 posted on 06/11/2013 2:04:23 PM PDT by tpmintx (Gun free zones are hunting preserves for unarmed people.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Procedurally, do they have to vote again on cloture after the bill is debated and amended on the Senate floor? Or will it take just 51 votes to get out of the Senate?


123 posted on 06/11/2013 2:05:03 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

They have to vote once to start debate (60 votes), once to end debate (60 votes) and then once on the bill, if it gets through both (50 votes).


124 posted on 06/11/2013 2:09:24 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: tpmintx

Why bother to hack the voting machines when the media reports what they are paid to report. There is no such thing as a Free Press. They are paid well during Presidential Campaigns.


125 posted on 06/11/2013 2:12:20 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
So they have already voted once to start the debate, 82-15, or is there another vote?

If that is the case, we have one more shot stopping this by voting no for cloture, correct?

126 posted on 06/11/2013 2:13:52 PM PDT by kabar
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To: All

I just returned from the county Registrar of Voters office. When I told them I wanted to change my registration they asked if it was a change of address or party affiliation. I told them ‘affiliation’ to which the person said a number of people had come in today to change affiliation, that it is unusual at this time of year to have any changes and to have so many affiliation changes and all on the same day was unusual. I made some remark about ‘current events’ which got a little bit of a smile.

This area is predominately Republican. Hope they hurt.

Make it happen. Make them hurt. Change your affiliation. Give them no money. Give them no quarter.


127 posted on 06/11/2013 2:28:03 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: boxlunch

Cornyn. What a Judas!

Yep! I’ve been trying to call his D.C. office for two days and there isn’t a human to be found to answer the phone and the voice mailboxes are full. He is in hiding and so is his staff. What a coward he is. I’ll remember this.


128 posted on 06/11/2013 2:33:41 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: re_nortex
"The 15 genuine American patriots are: John Barrasso of Wyoming, John Boozman of Arkansas, Michael D. Crapo of Idaho, Ted Cruz of Texas, Michael B. Enzi of Wyoming, Charles E. Grassley of Iowa, James M. Inhofe of Oklahoma, Mark S. Kirk of Illinois, Mike Lee of Utah, Jim Risch of Idaho, Pat Roberts of Kansas, Tim Scott of South Carolina, Jeff Sessions of Alabama, Richard C. Shelby of Alabama and David Vitter of Louisiana. "

Rand? Rand Paul? Yoohoo ... Rand?

129 posted on 06/11/2013 2:44:21 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Blather. Reince. Repeat.)
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To: Democrat_media

FB is owned by the government. Zuckerberg is the “face” of facebook. Just my opinion.


130 posted on 06/11/2013 2:50:38 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Theodore R.

I don’t know anyone who cheered that. Don’t get what you are saying here.


131 posted on 06/11/2013 2:58:43 PM PDT by boxlunch (Psalm 2)
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To: Resolute Conservative

I now understand after the NSA corruption and both sides calling him a traitor when he hasn’t even given anything anyway but to tell the world they are spying on us all that we have one party with slight disagreements.
It’s an old boys club from ivy league schools who are told that they are the ruling class and we are peasants and it is a case of the ruling class and the workers.

They only want us when election time and ignore us later


132 posted on 06/11/2013 3:03:26 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: austinaero

I actually did get through yesterday. They were pleasant and said they’d pass on my message.

I’m sure he really cares what we think. /s

Don’t know why I waste my time. Just still trying to do the right thing.


133 posted on 06/11/2013 3:05:39 PM PDT by boxlunch (Psalm 2)
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To: boxlunch

Why, her slaughter had something like 70 percent approval of the American people.


134 posted on 06/11/2013 3:07:00 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: austinaero

To my knowledge no one of stature is preparing to challenge Cornyn the March 4 primary. Even George P. Bush lacks opposition at this point for land commissioner. The elites run TX.


135 posted on 06/11/2013 3:08:23 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Rand Paul is another Libertarian who is selling out his country in pursuit of a misguided ideal. Individual liberty can only exist within a constitutional republic that, above all else, protects its citizens through defended borders. Paul’s open border madness invites anarchy.


136 posted on 06/11/2013 3:21:56 PM PDT by littleharbour ("All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree. ~ James Madison)
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To: kabar

Yes, there’s another chance. There are a bunch of pansies in the senate who think that they’re being ‘unreasonable’ by not ‘having a debate’, so the numbers will likely look a lot different in the vote to end debate. I don’t know if they have the 60 or not. Last I heard, they did not have the votes to end debate. We’ll have to see.


137 posted on 06/11/2013 3:35:25 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
Thanks. I hope the Reps are playing rope-a-dope with them. It would be far better to kill this in the Senate and not have the House deal with it. I am still betting that it will clear the Senate. Hopefully, it will be by a narrow margin and not have the 70 votes predicted by Schumer. This bill is a disaster and can't be fixed.

Passing immigration reform would be throwing a life preserver to Obama and the Dems. It would also transform this country forever.

138 posted on 06/11/2013 3:41:08 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Alter Kaker

I see my 2 GA TURDS couldn’t fall over themselves fast enough to vote yea... How is a RED State like GA stuck with these two? I can’t wait to cast my vote for a new Senator...


139 posted on 06/11/2013 4:15:09 PM PDT by bfh333 ("Hope"... "Change"... You better HOPE you have some CHANGE after the next 4 years!)
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To: Alter Kaker

Hell bent on destroying the country. The whole damn lot of them!


140 posted on 06/11/2013 4:25:05 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: littleharbour

Believe you’d better reassess....There are too few (L) in Congress; it’s the GOP itself whom is selling off the farm from underneath our feet.

Paul may have said he’d see what’s coming; it’s your GOP ‘leadership’ that’s happily bending over to take it up the shoot. There was a chance to remove Boehner, and no one took it.

Blame the GOP, not the (L), whom have little clout in the whole affair.


141 posted on 06/11/2013 4:42:43 PM PDT by i_robot73 (We hold that all individuals have the Right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives - LP.org)
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To: Alter Kaker
Marco Rubio LIAR. Here's his immigration page. Yeah, I have some suggestions Marco Rubicon.

http://www.rubio.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/immigration-reform-facts

142 posted on 06/11/2013 5:24:43 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Marco Rubio GET OUTTA TOWN. YOU ANTI-AMERICAN.)
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To: floriduh voter

http://www.rubio.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/immigration-reform-facts


143 posted on 06/11/2013 5:25:18 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Marco Rubio GET OUTTA TOWN. YOU ANTI-AMERICAN.)
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To: Theodore R.

Teddy, that reminds me. Jeb Bush is at a Presidential hopeful DC Christian Conference right now. He’s a luciferian and he starved Terri for his older brother. We are all Terri now. Our rights under The Constitution and the Declaration of Independence are being starved.


144 posted on 06/11/2013 5:27:06 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Marco Rubio GET OUTTA TOWN. YOU ANTI-AMERICAN.)
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To: floriduh voter

I know how you must feel, floriduh voter, for having voted for Rubio. At least you can say you acted as an honest broker and went with the info you had at the time.

Now, I am itching to vote out John Cornyn, but no one dares challenge him. And George P. Bush, Jebbie’s boy, is now unopposed for land commissioner of TX, an administrative job over the leasing of state-owned lands.


145 posted on 06/11/2013 6:10:59 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Alter Kaker

How does that “We gotta vote republican no matter what/principles don’t matter/purists are killing the party/lesser evil” sandwich taste?

This is what you get for it folks. The next time you see a psuedocon spouting this crap, be sure to thank them.


146 posted on 06/11/2013 6:14:09 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Alter Kaker

“The four Republican members of the Gang of Eight — Sens. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), John McCain (R-Ariz.), Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and Jeff Flake (R- Ariz.) — were joined by more than 20 other GOP senators in voting to advance the debate. That strong support is expected to dwindle if certain amendments aren’t agreed to.”

B.S. The strong support will dwindle when certain pubbies who are up for election vote against amnesty only because they know it is going through anyway. I hate all of them for thinking we are this stupid.


147 posted on 06/11/2013 6:32:01 PM PDT by Wisconsinlady (Not just the IRS, what about ATF, OSHA, EPA and other big govt groups)
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To: Alter Kaker

I am EXTREMELY irritated with Sen. Ron Johnson. He WAS our grassroots tea party candidate. Et tu, Brute Johnson??


148 posted on 06/11/2013 6:34:52 PM PDT by Wisconsinlady (Not just the IRS, what about ATF, OSHA, EPA and other big govt groups)
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To: Theodore R.

One of the first steps down a very slippery slope.

God Bless, Teri!

http://www.terrisfight.org/


149 posted on 06/11/2013 6:40:31 PM PDT by Wisconsinlady (Not just the IRS, what about ATF, OSHA, EPA and other big govt groups)
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To: Alter Kaker

Why are they all bound and determined to destroy the country? Don’t they realize that they’ll go down with the ship, too?


150 posted on 06/11/2013 6:45:53 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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