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Mali manual suggests al-Qaida has feared weapon [ MANPADS]
AP ^ | June 11, 2013 | RUKMINI CALLIMACHI

Posted on 06/11/2013 8:21:34 AM PDT by don-o

TIMBUKTU, Mali (AP) -- The photocopies of the manual lay in heaps on the floor, in stacks that scaled one wall, like Xeroxed, stapled handouts for a class.

Except that the students in this case were al-Qaida fighters in Mali. And the manual was a detailed guide, with diagrams and photographs, on how to use a weapon that particularly concerns the United States: A surface-to-air missile capable of taking down a commercial airplane.

The 26-page document in Arabic, recovered by The Associated Press in a building that had been occupied by al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb in Timbuktu, strongly suggests the group now possesses the SA-7 surface-to-air missile, known to the Pentagon as the Grail, according to terrorism specialists. And it confirms that the al-Qaida cell is actively training its fighters to use these weapons, also called man-portable air-defense systems, or MANPADS, which likely came from the arms depots of ex-Libyan strongman Col. Moammar Gadhafi.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; arabspring; benghazi; mali; manpads; obama4alqaeda; obamavsamerica; sam
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1 posted on 06/11/2013 8:21:34 AM PDT by don-o
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To: don-o

Gee... I wonder where they got those?


2 posted on 06/11/2013 8:24:40 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: don-o

Thousands now, or millions later. Our only choice is coming soon.


3 posted on 06/11/2013 8:25:17 AM PDT by ibytoohi (What the hell has happened to my country?)
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To: don-o

I’ve been wondering why they have not been bringing down airliners since 911. I mean, it may be a suicide mission to shoot one off as a plane takes off from some airfield, but isn’t suicide killings their favorite weapon?

I’m amazed at how this stuff is not being used in places less secure than the US but popular for US travel.

Or is the NSA just that good? :-\


4 posted on 06/11/2013 8:26:56 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: don-o

These MANPADs and the upcoming deaths are brought to
America courtesy of Huma, Hillary, Obama, and those
who watched Americans die, gang-raped, into the night.


5 posted on 06/11/2013 8:27:54 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: don-o

They only possess one Grail??? Hard to believe. Between the numbers looted from Libya and the numbers transferred by Stevens through Turkey to the Syrian rebels, I’d be surprised if they don’t have two of three hundred. Were I them I’d... no they don’t need my ideas to help them.


6 posted on 06/11/2013 8:29:14 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: don-o

Arab Spring sprung these weapons.


7 posted on 06/11/2013 8:32:39 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: cuban leaf

It’s just not that effective of a strategy. They tried it a few times in the 70s, but most of the time, they got caught before they had a chance to fire, or they couldn’t hit the target. In one case, Carlos the Jackal fired an RPG at an El Al jet, but ended up hitting a Yugoslavian plane instead, which surely pissed off his communist paymasters.


8 posted on 06/11/2013 8:37:57 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

I wasn’t thinking RPG’s. I was thinking shoulder launched SAMs. I thought they had a maximum altitude of 10,000 feet and that shold be no problem for a plane taking off. And you can easily hang out at the end of a runway in an urban area in LA, Seattle, Burbank, Ohare, etc.

I thought they had those sorts of SAMs for a long time. If I’m full of baloney, never mind... ;-)


9 posted on 06/11/2013 8:46:49 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: don-o

Oh goodie, that lyin’ DC snake cabal is sure keeping us safe. Arming the enemies is their specialty!


10 posted on 06/11/2013 8:49:37 AM PDT by dforest (I have now entered the Twilight Zone.)
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To: onedoug

I wonder if they have a photocopy position open.


11 posted on 06/11/2013 9:30:05 AM PDT by windcliff
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To: Mr. K

Gee... I wonder where they got those?


I was just sitting here wondering the same thing /s


12 posted on 06/11/2013 9:47:19 AM PDT by txhurl (RNC 'voter suppression': attempting to limit each voter to ONE vote!)
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To: windcliff

3Der


13 posted on 06/11/2013 9:56:34 AM PDT by onedoug
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Can y’all insert ‘[MANPADS]’ into the headline so this gets more attention, please and thank you?


14 posted on 06/11/2013 10:12:07 AM PDT by txhurl (RNC 'voter suppression': attempting to limit each voter to ONE vote!)
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To: cuban leaf

They tried SA-7s three times I believe, and only succeeded once. This was targeting stationary planes on the runway, too, not planes in flight. They would probably have less success nowadays, since they can’t get close enough to fire at a stationary target and would have to try to hit the plane in the air.


15 posted on 06/11/2013 10:21:53 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: cuban leaf
“I wasn’t thinking RPG’s. I was thinking shoulder launched SAMs. I thought they had a maximum altitude of 10,000 feet and that shold be no problem for a plane taking off. And you can easily hang out at the end of a runway in an urban area in LA, Seattle, Burbank, Ohare, etc.

I thought they had those sorts of SAMs for a long time. If I’m full of baloney, never mind... ;-)”

Your not full of baloney. Some years back there was a curious incident with an American Airlines flight out of LAX. This was pre 2008. It looked to the pilot according to cockpit voice recording like a contrail went past the plane on the land side. The “authorities” ended up blaming a misguided amateur rocket that went astray. They were probably partially right in that a rocket went astray. They also removed a female passenger who had a camera and may have gotten a photo. It looked like some launched a unguided SAM from a power boat in the flight path out of LAX.

16 posted on 06/11/2013 10:51:14 AM PDT by Polynikes (What would Walt Kowalski do. In the meantime "GET OFF MY LAWN")
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To: Polynikes

And flight 800...


17 posted on 06/11/2013 10:53:12 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Polynikes

some launched a unguided SAM from a power boat in the flight path out of LAX.


Well, unguided really IS a crap shoot. I was assuming they had heat seeking ones.


18 posted on 06/11/2013 10:54:29 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Polynikes

There have been several incidents like this near IAH in recent years. Always blamed on “amateur rockets” as the cause...


19 posted on 06/11/2013 11:11:24 AM PDT by BrewingFrog (I brew, therefore I am!)
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To: BrewingFrog

bttt


20 posted on 06/11/2013 2:39:28 PM PDT by txhurl (RNC 'voter suppression': attempting to limit each voter to ONE vote!)
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