Posted on 06/10/2013 5:18:06 AM PDT by marktwain
A subset of visitors to New York City looks, on the surface, just like the rest. Some are high profile, like the boxer this year, and the football player, and the Tea Party leader from California. They are joined by the anonymous: the military wife from Minnesota, and the hazardous waste expert. There was a minister, and a surgeon, and someone in pest control.
What sets them apart is what each brings along on a visit to the city. A handgun. The guns are legally owned, with the home state permits all in order. The visitors have locked the gun in a box and checked it at the local airport, as they were told to do by the airline. But for these visitors, the trip to New York will almost certainly end in handcuffs and felony weapons charges, and their flights home will leave without them.
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New York, the cesspool of the east. Kalifornia, the cesspool of the west. Need I say more?
If you wanted to be comprehensive, Progov, you could mention Illinois, the cesspool of the middle.
Damn. NJ is very difficult to avoid (but not impossible).
Here's the one question I wished I had asked the NRA lawyer. Suppose you go so far as to actually disassemble your firearm. Break it down into as many pieces as possible, then store each piece in a different locked case. Would that be enough to get you a pass in NYC, DC, NJ, and Baltimore?
It is sad that I even have to consider such a question, but I wonder if it would work.
Section 1. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
It looks like if I stayed on route 84 I could bypass NJ but I’m not 100% sure.
“Section 1. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
Good luck with that defense. They are following due process of law. What equal protection are they denying? Do you really think such an argument would have a chance in heck with the NJ SC or even getting to the US SC? Its ridiculous.
‘Due process of law’ is not the issue. The issue is any laws that abridge the ‘privileges and immunities of citizens of the United States.’ That language was intended to protect the freed slaves from laws in the Southern States that, among other things, denied such persons the right to keep and bear arms.
“‘Due process of law’ is not the issue. The issue is any laws that abridge the ‘privileges and immunities of citizens of the United States.’ That language was intended to protect the freed slaves from laws in the Southern States that, among other things, denied such persons the right to keep and bear arms.”
Again, good luck making that argument. Like it or not for over 100 years its been accepted that states and cities have the right to decide who carries and who doesnt. It seems to me to be naive to think such an argument has any chance of making any impact.
We NY mountain hillbiliies can buy guns and ammo in Vermont and bring it into NY State.
It`s free country.
The police, state troopers and sheriffs do not bother us because they know our families we have been doing it DE FACTO for over 200 years. We are all heavily armed here and they do not want a war because we outnumber them 500,000 to one. They already tried this crap during Prohibition up here and they were driven out of the mountains by force of arms...
Thousands of New Jersey summer residents come here on vacation and they are armed here in their vacation homes.-
HOW ABOUT THAT!
“The U.S Constitution, Sir, is not ridiculous.”
Agreed, but neither are state’s rights and states and cities have been passing gun laws for over a hundred years. The USSC has given states fairly large lattitude in that unfortuantely for those of us in NY.
“We NY mountain hillbiliies can buy guns and ammo in Vermont and bring it into NY State.”
Rifles yes, handguns No- unless you have a state pistol permit and transfer through an ffl. Those without a state permit (ie visitors from other states) are SOL if they get caught.
“It`s free country.”
Dont make me laugh.
“The police, state troopers and sheriffs do not bother us because they know our families we have been doing it DE FACTO for over 200 years. We are all heavily armed here and they do not want a war because we outnumber them 500,000 to one. They already tried this crap during Prohibition up here and they were driven out of the mountains by force of arms...”
We are talking about NYC, not upstate which is very different. Even so, try your hillbilly theory by open carrying into the local Walmart and see what kind of police reception you get.
“Thousands of New Jersey summer residents come here on vacation and they are armed here in their vacation homes.-”
Armed with what? If handguns they better keep them out of sight, however as you know upstate NY is like a separate state from NYC and much more lenient regarding guns.
“HOW ABOUT THAT!”
How about this. My original point was that arguments like the 4th ammendment and equal protection have been around forever and have gone no where. People have taken it to the NYS supreme court and failed. IIRC they have tried taking it to the USSC and were rejected. Those arguments wont fly, they never have. Its all just words. The RATS in NY dont give a damn about the constitution, freedom, rights or anything else. It s**ks here and as soon as I retire I am OUT.
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