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To: albie

I don’t think so.

There are no 7 year old queers. there are no 11 year old queers. there are no 13 year old queers.

Almost no boys join scouts after 13.

The problem will not be queers in scouts except for isolated and misguided activists searching for headlines.

Those leaving scouts are foolish. They should be brave and courageous and withstand the on slought.


16 posted on 06/10/2013 5:10:29 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Who will shoot Liberty Valence?)
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To: bert
There are no 7 year old queers. there are no 11 year old queers. there are no 13 year old queers.

Absolutely. The policy change is about removing "morally pure" from the scout's creed.

22 posted on 06/10/2013 5:21:12 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: bert

There are homo couples out there raising confused children right now what for the chance to infiltrate any organization that furthers their agenda.


29 posted on 06/10/2013 6:34:12 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: bert
You are correct about "There are no 7 year old queers. there are no 11 year old queers. there are no 13 year old queers.

Almost no boys join scouts after 13."

It has been more than a quarter century since I served in a Boy Scout leadership position. We never asked about a boy's sexual orientation beyond stressing the "morally straight" part of the scout oath.

All during my years of service, I had exactly one boy ever approach me about the homo issue-- most likely just to gauge my reaction. I told him that, from a health viewpoint, he would be better off taking up swimming in sewage treatment ponds than embracing that lifestyle. He seemed genuinely grossed out and never brought up the topic again.

THe point, I guess, is that there is no way I can see any Boy Scout having to declare themselves as "openly homosexual" and still being able to live the "morally straight" requirement of the Scout Oath.

37 posted on 06/10/2013 7:58:58 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: bert
Those leaving scouts are foolish. They should be brave and courageous and withstand the on slought (sic).

Tell you what. I'll consider supporting the Scouts when and if the Nation Council or even the local Utah Council revokes the commission of the Scout unit and membership of offenders that marched in the Salt Lake "gay pride" parade last week in defiance of an order.

But I won't hold my breath.

47 posted on 06/10/2013 9:07:37 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: bert; All

For someone who claims to be fighting for Scouting, yours is one of the most un-Scout like behaviors I have yet witnessed on FR.

Those leaving are doing so for their own reasons, just as I am. The BSA is corrupted from the top down. National is corrupted and that rot has worked its way down to Councils all across the country.

They have lost the vision, the purpose and aims of Scouting in their quest for acceptance and $$. They welcomed these corporate scum into their midst and this is the result.

I no longer have faith or trust in the “leadership” at National or in my Council. Thus, I will not either explicitly or tacitly endorse their behavior or idealogy by my continued participation.

For you to engage in personal attacks against those who have been hurt by this deceitful betrayal says much. Many have years, decades even of sacrifice for the BSA.

But the BSA elected to commit suicide by this decision and in doing so, betrayed those who held to the ideals of Scouting. That the Oath and Law weren’t mere words to be memorized and recited to pass a BoR.

They lied to us when they came out with that farce of a video claiming they “listened” to the rank and file. The Councils then got their marching orders, stack the delegations with those amenable to the change. Attempting to give an air of legitimacy to the “vote”. And then “voted” for the change.

How do you reconcile 60%+ in the survey saying leave things alone with the 60%+ who “voted” to change the policy if we were supposedly “listened to”?

Pure propaganda and yet, here you are, berating, mocking, vilifying those who reject National’s betrayal.

After 20+ years, I am resigning all of my affiliations with Scouting next summer. Scoutmaster, Asst. OA Lodge Advisor, District Cmte Member at large, Eagle BoR member and Merit Badge Counselor. Not counting the $$ I have donated or helped BSA “earn” with fundraising and participation in events.

And it’s next summer only at the request of certain parents who are trying to get their kids to Eagle as soon as possible, otherwise, it would have been the day of the decision.

It’s not about the queers, there have been queers in Scouting for many years.

It’s about an organization that has lost its way. Lost its moral compass and in turn, its validity, usefulness and purpose.


54 posted on 06/10/2013 1:08:47 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: bert

Chances are that younger boys will be molested by teen homos. The activities are ideal for chicken hawks. I don’t support child molestation.

Before the scouts took up banning homos, they used to just ignore the whole topic and then hide the molested kids for fear of wrecking their organization. What will they now? Ignore “consensual” sex on outings and at camps?


57 posted on 06/10/2013 3:44:35 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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