Posted on 06/10/2013 2:08:08 AM PDT by servo1969
Not sure if Snowden is the treasonous one...or the folks who still support Free Trade with Communist China.
Standing against the rogue Federal Government isn’t treason, giving away our nation’s wealth and technological secrets is.
...”Character assassination has begun.
Our nation is dirty and too full of bad secrets. This guy exposed the rot. They will say bad things about him, but I ain’t buying their lies”...
Me, neither!
...”And this is for everyone else: I don’t get this. Here we have a guy who is telling everyone what most people on FR thought for years but were told we’re all a bunch of nuts. Now, here we have a whistleblower confirming all this, and we people start thinking that he’s NOT beleiveable??”...
Insane, isn’t it?
...”Yes...there will probably be a witch hunt on Snowden before we know all the facts.”...
It has begun here..Look no further.
I know a LOT of techies without formal educations. And a lot with no FORMAL background in computing. Best database programmer I ever knew. . . .had his B.A. in English, his concentration was Elizabethan Poetry.
A LOT of the really serious coders don’t have formal credentials. . . .much to the chagrin of the HR Mandarins. . .
Another guy I know, only finally got his Bachelor’s at age 29. He was co-author of a major security software package, and has two O’Reilly books out. But he had problems finding a regular job, because he didn’t have the proper tickets (i.e. degree and certifications) punched. . .
Part of this problem lies in the fact we don’t have *in house* techs to do this work and the outside vendors don’t, like Booz Allen Hamilton, don’t have the security to hold this data...excluding the huge civil rights issues in play.
You're guess is as good as mine, but I'd bet on seeing pigs fly first! He's got that Bradley Manning look. I remember when that story broke and FReepers were saying, "Gee, why do you think he is homosexual?"
You are not getting all the facts.
The actual document theft is less serious than Sandy Berger and the value to the public should be balanced against the disclosure. Needs to be more than a slap on the wrist though.
No degree! Ged!
Voted for Dr Ron Paul!
Some damn good real Americans out there yet !!!!!
Semper Fidelis
Dick G
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All of these things will NEVER stuck to Obama. But then can stick to democrats. We need to start placing blame on democraps!
It wasn’t a guess. He said he left his girlfriend behind in Hawaii. NSA has already visited with her.
IT hires tend to be in their early to mid-20s. Getting clearance takes maybe a year. You can find 20-somethings in IT.
But the fact that he is in China, when his identity is revealed, suggests that they were helping him or his employers. The release was planned, and he had an escape route to somewhere that he couldn’t be arrested.
For all I know he could work for China but I haven’t heard any denials of what he leaked, just excuses.
This stinks to high heaven, and rather than point fingers, the people need to "excise" the rot by purging our entire government top to bottom.
A "do-over" is needed creating a system that our founding fathers intended.
There you go. My bad.
As is Congressional Intelligence.
I think one has an obligation to reveal secrets if they involve violation of the constitution. I don’t care what his level of education is and usually provided one has the necessary experience and the ability to get a clearance its not the primary concern. The truth is that security is only as good as the individuals you trust with it and the federal government is chock full of radical leftists so if people that hate America can get jobs at DHS and DOD then that pretty much leaves the gates open.
When I was working at DHS under CBP I over heard conversations expressing sentiments that attacking Texas with a nuke was more appealing than attacking Iraq. One individual who had clearances at DoD, CIA, FBI, NSA in a fairly high level meeting felt the need to express how Condoleezza Rica was not a nice person and that even her family hated her. It wasn’t surprising that he said something like that but that he felt entirely comfortable expressing that sentiment during the Bush admin in a meeting with higher management. I also don’t think I’ve ever seen more transsexuals working anywhere.
Don’t get me wrong. The majority of folks working there are great but never assume that because someone has a security clearance that they are patriotic Americans. Also security was such at the Kingstowne office that even with swipe access they had spent years trying to find out who was ‘vandalizing’ the mens restroom and still hadn’t figured it out.
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