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#3844 - Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei: The European Races Are Barbaric Races
MEMRI ^ | 10/5/13

Posted on 06/08/2013 3:21:44 PM PDT by Eleutheria5

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/3844.htm


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Israel; Russia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: barbarian; european; europeanunion; germany; iran; israel; khamenei; russia; unitedkingdom; waronterror
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To: Eleutheria5

This from the buggerer of little boys.


21 posted on 06/08/2013 4:15:59 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: tet68
The word, "barbarian," derives from the Greek, barbaroi, which was originally applied to the Medes and Persians. In the purest sense of the word, Iranians were the definitive barbarians.
22 posted on 06/08/2013 4:20:51 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Pretty funny as Irani is the Persian word for Aryan.


23 posted on 06/08/2013 4:22:52 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Eleutheria5

Well, there goes the claim that they’re all “Aryan” Persians and the like instead of being Arabs.


24 posted on 06/08/2013 4:35:07 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Hey, you backward 7th century moron, see my tag line.

Meanwhile you ragheads have sex with goats and destroy everything you come in contact with.


25 posted on 06/08/2013 4:37:10 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: CatherineofAragon

My heart goes out to the poor goats.


26 posted on 06/08/2013 4:42:34 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Mine, too.....the goats can do so much better.


27 posted on 06/08/2013 4:50:40 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: driftless2
"What is "white"

Oh, that question. You win. Have fun!


28 posted on 06/08/2013 4:54:04 PM PDT by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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To: Eleutheria5

Maybe he means that to his earth the European languages sound like ‘bar, bar’?


29 posted on 06/08/2013 4:58:05 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Eleutheria5

says the beheading, marrying-at-6, goat-humping, stone the woman for being raped, incestuous, convert to my mad-mo religion or i keeeel you, wipe with the left hand, cleric to the sand monkeys.


30 posted on 06/08/2013 5:13:43 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: omega4179
Iranians speak an Indo-European language ~ those languages originate around the Black Sea ~ and spread out from there.

But there is no caucasoid or 'european' race.

The current rather demonstrable hypothesis is that Europe was resettled AFTER the ice age by the same populations that'd lived there BEFORE the last ice age peak.

Those populations did not come from the Caucasus mountain region but rather from several European refugia ~ where people lived a rather ice free existence during the ice age peak (roughly from 35,000 BC to 20,000 BC.

The main area for Western Europeans was located along the French and Spanish border region. Another area was in what is now roughly speaking Serbia on the Adriatic. There was a middle eastern area, something in Italy, various spots in North Africa and so on ~ not all of them lasting through the entire period. We have to assume people moved around to better hunting areas.

The Iranians are essentially identical to the Semitic speaking peoples to their South and West ~ otherwise known as Arabs. However, at some point in time, they were overwhelmed by Indo-European speakers. They left no genetic markers behind however.

Europe has absorbed a number of agriculturalists over the last 10,000 years ~ they came from further South and East where animal and plant domestication took place. Those people have disappeared into the mass of Europeans and today there's only the smallest differentiation of the two.

As further study is done into population genetics we will find out more factoids to throw into what can seem to be a confusing melange, but we are way beyond the rather simple views of the 19th century that all the white people must have come from Eastern Europe or the Baltic.

31 posted on 06/08/2013 5:32:28 PM PDT by muawiyah (Git yer Red Arm Bands here - $29.95 - NOT SOLD IN STORES - TAX FREE)
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To: joseph20; driftless2
The current theory about the white folks is they got that way through three different genetic pathways ~ (1) European Neanderthals were light skinned folks with blue eyes and redhair ~ according to their genes. The melanin suppression genes are different than in the other two systems.

(2) European white folks were originally dark skinned folks with a variety of eye colors and mostly dark har ~ until about the time they moved far enough North to need light skin. At the moment that's up in the air. The oldest anyone will go is 75,000 BC but that was when they lived in Central Asia ~ before they got to Europe. There's a strong suggestion it had to happen long after they split from the Chinese, which would be anywhere from 35,000 to 50,000 BC, because

(3) The Chinese have an entirely different way of suppressing melanin AND, on top of that, their gene for controlling hair thickness, texture, sweat glands, breast size and a couple of other things is really different from the same gene in the rest of humanity!

The issue with Europe is that settlement was in fits and starts, and retreats because it took place DURING the last ice age ~ which lasted 100,000 years! So people were moving in and out of the area as the climate changed from nasty and cold to fairly moderate interstadials of various durations.

Over in the East the Chinese didn't make any really serious inroads into what we today call China until about the end of the Younger Dryas, or about 10,000 to 11,000 years ago. I suspect that had to do with the major dominant species roaming the grasslands of the Chinese plains ~ TIGERS of all kinds ~ with huge fangs, enormous bodies, and ferocious demeanor. By the end of the Younger Dryas the game animals those tigers lived on were gone, as were the tigers ~ today's specimens are something people could handle with new stone age technology!

Anyone who gets the Chicom channel has access to numerous Chinese paleontological and archaeological studies that are absolutely fascinating. NOTHING is what anybody imagined as recently as 20 years ago!

There is a possibility white folks didn't lighten up until as recently as about 5,000 years ago ~ but I haven't heard much on that for a couple of years ~ mostly since they figured out even the Neanderthals had to be light skinned to survive Europe, so why not everybody else!

32 posted on 06/08/2013 5:48:43 PM PDT by muawiyah (Git yer Red Arm Bands here - $29.95 - NOT SOLD IN STORES - TAX FREE)
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To: muawiyah

Wasn’t that kind of the same idea behind the Aryan invasion theory about how Indo-Aryan languages arrived in North India?

I’m not sure what recent scholarship says, but the impression I got was that the idea was no longer fashionable.


33 posted on 06/08/2013 6:04:28 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: Shadow44
There are Iranian marker genes ~ but they are the same as the ones found among the Iraqi Arabic speaking population. In India they've done thousands of DNA studies to see who is what and from where and so far they've discovered something really strange ~ ALL identifiable modern groups regardless of color, facial features, body dimensions ~ etc have Persian marker genes AND those of the Andaman islanders!

Which rather suggests that maybe the Aryans, as they've been called, didn't ride into India, but maybe they walked out of India!

That's also being supported by a lot of re dating going on of ancient cities/settlements located between the Indus and the Caspian.

The very ancient Dravidian language group is also being reevaluated to see if it is the SOURCE of the Sumerian language ~ and possibly a background language in the development of Hungarian, Estonian, Finnish, some other now extinct languages in Eastern Europe and Western Asia.

The concept that Indo Europeans invaded and conquered everybody else and passed on a higher culture and technology is becoming quite dated ~ they may well have done such things but others were headed the other way earlier!

A lot of this is related to climate change in Europe. It gets warmer and people move in. It gets colder and people move out. Same with Central Asia, and East Asia. There were many fewer people in the past so there were always new lands to invade and settle with a couple of villages. The world didn't get crowded until a good 4,000 years back.

Some day read about St. Gildas. He dressed in a sheet, slept outdoors winter and summer, on the rocks, begged for his dinner, preached total pacifism ~ and was otherwise a Christian saint in the period just before and just after the end of civilization in Western Europe in 535 AD.

He came from North of the Wall in England/Scotland. He had 24 'brothers'. He was on a first name basis with King Ad (King Arthur), and may well have been Merlin's father. He rebuilt the first chapel in Brittany after the great destruction.

He lived during a period when Jain kings and princes in India sent missionaries to the Ends of The Earth ~ the Jains developed the doctrine of total pacifism called Ahemsa. There were 24 'brothers', successive leaders of the Jain movement, up to the time it split from early Buddhism. The missionaries dressed typically in a single sheet.

Recent DNA studies revealed that modern people living in the vicinity of the Wall (Hadrian's wall) had marker genes typical of people from Western India (where all the Jains lived).

The name of the village where Gilda's Breton chapel is located means First Fruit or First Sacrifice in Sanskrit. Gildas means Joyful Servant in Sanskrit.

BTW, the Gypsies came from India.

There appear to have always been people arriving in Europe who started out in India!

34 posted on 06/08/2013 6:30:10 PM PDT by muawiyah (Git yer Red Arm Bands here - $29.95 - NOT SOLD IN STORES - TAX FREE)
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To: Eleutheria5

If anything, the west is corrupt and decadent. Sometimes, we would be better off being barbaric again.


35 posted on 06/09/2013 1:14:22 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: joseph20
Most Iranians are Persian. Persians are not white.

Persians are Aryan.

Americans, regardless of albedo, are American.

36 posted on 06/09/2013 2:09:10 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Eleutheria5

Yeah, well, 1000 years ago they might have been barbaric, but THEY got over cutting off the heads of people with whom they disagreed a LONG time ago.


37 posted on 06/09/2013 5:18:27 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: BwanaNdege

The reason I asked my cheeky question is because my wife recently found out from a DNA test that she has a black ancestor. She grew up in England and looks about as Caucasian as anyone you’ve ever run into. Her black ancestor could have come over with the Romans. So I’m more than a little amused when certain people proudly proclaim their “whiteness” or racial lineage. I’d bet many people who think they’re “white” would be mightily surprised by their ancestral records going back thousands of years.


38 posted on 06/09/2013 7:59:35 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: cynwoody
Persians may have been white at one point in time (several thousand years ago), but time and all the race mixing since then from the Mongol and Arab invasions have pretty much wiped that out of existence.



Today, in some rare minority cases, you will see the genetic legacy of the ancient white Persians with phenotypical expressions such as blue eyes or blond hair and lighter skin.

There is nothing "Aryan" about today's Persians, except for their language classification.
39 posted on 06/09/2013 10:17:54 AM PDT by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Now “sand monkeys” is not only racist, but an insult to monkeys. Sand Nazis is the preferred politically correct term.


40 posted on 06/09/2013 1:38:22 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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