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New Jersey gun laws punish TX man for legally owned guns
Gun News ^ | Posted by Editor on Tuesday, June 4, 2013

Posted on 06/07/2013 4:31:36 AM PDT by bryan999

Dustin Reininger is a U.S. veteran and former police officer serving 3-5 years in a New Jersey prison for possession of firearms that he legally owned. As a result of the extreme and unjust New Jersey gun laws, Reininger was convicted of illegal possession of firearms as he was passing through the state.

Dustin Reininger is not from New Jersey. He was actually moving from Maine to Texas and was driving through New Jersey when he parked his car in a parking lot to rest for the night. Reininger was awakened in the night by police officers who searched his vehicle without a warrant. This unwarranted search was deemed justified because the officer saw two gun cases in the back of the vehicle. Reininger was transporting his entire gun collection that day and was arrested immediately.

Under the Firearm Owners Protection Act, citizens are actually allowed to transport firearms from state to state regardless of the legality of the guns between departure point and destination. For full protection under this act, however, citizens must keep their firearms locked in either the trunk or a case. Reininger’s only error was keeping his firearms in an unlocked case.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut; US: Maine; US: New Jersey; US: New York; US: Texas
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1 posted on 06/07/2013 4:31:36 AM PDT by bryan999
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To: bryan999

Lesson to Learn: If you are a gun owner - move out of the North East of the US - wake up early - and don’t stop until you get to IN or KY!


2 posted on 06/07/2013 4:34:47 AM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html - A real life experience book about the war in Iraq)
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To: bryan999

This is what they call “Justice” in New Jersey.


3 posted on 06/07/2013 4:36:43 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: bryan999

Madness.


4 posted on 06/07/2013 4:38:00 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('He frustrates the devices of the crafty, so that they cannot carry out their plans.' -- Job 5:12)
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To: BCW

Nah, wrong lesson.

Put on robes and wear a towel on your head.

Hell, you could have 273 guns sitting on the front seat, and not a one of those officers would jump to any conclusions then.

You could have a fully automatic AK-47 there, and they still wouldn’t dare say anything.


5 posted on 06/07/2013 4:39:13 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were Iviolated...)
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To: bryan999

Simple solution to the problem. Texas, Maine, and other states that think New Jersey citizens are idiots for their laws should make them pay. When traveling through other states with a NJ plate, LE pull them over and search them for any violation of the law they can find. NJ shows they, like NY, are not similar thinking states of these United States and should be treated as such.


6 posted on 06/07/2013 4:39:16 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: vetvetdoug

Payback is the only weapon. Every right thinking gun state should target cars with NJ plates. Pull them over, check for every violation possible. Jail them for even the smallest of offenses. Then do a prisoner exchange for this poor man.


7 posted on 06/07/2013 4:41:45 AM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: bryan999
police officers who searched his vehicle without a warrant

But the usual suspects will insist that the police are on our side (whatever that means)

NJ police marching note swat style helmets and 0bama banners


8 posted on 06/07/2013 4:41:49 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: bryan999
I think Cornyn and Cruz need to work fatboy Christie's ass over publicly until Christie pardons or commutes this vet's NJ conviction.

Letters to Cornyn and Cruz might be the best way to start this ball rolling

9 posted on 06/07/2013 4:43:51 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: bryan999

He will know next time to stay his ass out of New Jersey. I do.


10 posted on 06/07/2013 4:46:42 AM PDT by sport
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To: harpu
Christie approves of gun grabbing...can't wait to get the F*** out of this craphole.
11 posted on 06/07/2013 4:47:15 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: bryan999

Can Christie paardon this guy? If he can but won’t that says a lot.


12 posted on 06/07/2013 4:48:14 AM PDT by ryan71 (The Second American Revolution)
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To: DoughtyOne

That bad up there- uh?...probably the reason why I don’t travel to that part of the nation...Last time i went through was in 2008 coming home from Iraq and had to fly into JFK - a bunch of Moslems ran towards me trying to grab my bags - and I verbally told them to back the hell up - and saw an Italian Catholic driver as he was laughing watching me...he hooked me up with a ride over to Laguardia Airport...apparently that’s a common thing in the airport!


13 posted on 06/07/2013 4:49:42 AM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html - A real life experience book about the war in Iraq)
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To: ryan71

Yes, he can. State law, he’s the chief enforcement agent.


14 posted on 06/07/2013 4:50:51 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: bryan999

Let’s all start carrying empty gun cases around. Let’s swamp the system.


15 posted on 06/07/2013 4:52:07 AM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: bryan999
From the article

From the article:

The pardon process exists for situations like this. Dustin Reininger has more than paid his debt to society

I take exception to this statement. Reininger has no "debt to society." He is a victim of the NJ police state.

The police who arrested him, the prosecutor who prosecuted him, and the judge that sentenced him are the ones who owe.

16 posted on 06/07/2013 4:54:46 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

It is said that in the 30’s Hitler copied the uniform design of the NJ State Police for the SS uniforms.


17 posted on 06/07/2013 4:57:03 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: BCW

I’m not up there. My comments were meant to address the idea that this guy gets the book thrown at him, and yet some groups can stand up on planes yelling and causing a commotion, and they get off scott free.

I’m just getting more than a little tired of the treatment of citizens vs the treatment of foreign nationals, or protected groups.


18 posted on 06/07/2013 4:58:30 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama lied and four men died after he went to hide...)
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To: bryan999
Back before 911, I was flying back to Connecticut from Florida with a shotgun and rifle.

At baggage check I unlocked the case and the check-in guy asked me to "clear the weapons" - the reaction of others in line when I racked the shotgun was priceless......

19 posted on 06/07/2013 4:59:23 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: ryan71

It would seem to me to be prosecutor’s discretion whether to prosecute such a case given the circumstances. Starting with the SS Storm Trooper cop who arrested this guy and proceding up the chain to the prosecutor’s office there obviously is a serious mental problem in NJ not to mention any belief in the second amendment. My dad used to be a cop in NJ long ago, I cannot envision him even arresting this guy, more probably he would have swapped gun stories with him. Alas, arrests like this is what passes for effective law enforcement in that crap hole of a state now. Add NJ to the list of states in the North East I would gladly cede back to the King.


21 posted on 06/07/2013 5:02:12 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: bryan999
Like everything, there is more to the story. If you are moving from Maine to Texas (ex-LEO or not) it is probably best not to pull off the highway to sleep in a bank parking lot in New Jersey in a car with Texas plates and with 26 guns.

The free state of Pennsylvania is just a few minutes away. New Jersey's firearms laws are stupid and draconian, but that the state has awful firearm laws is well known even if you're not an ex-LEO.

Sad to say, but I doubt that Christie will pardon this one.

http://www.nj.com/hunterdon-county-democrat/index.ssf/2013/05/conviction_upheld_for_man_moving_to_texas_with_suv_full_of_guns.html

22 posted on 06/07/2013 5:18:01 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Mouton

I agree on the prosecutorial discretion; his defense attorney makes some additional sound arguments. But there are other facts to this story - that really hurt him - like he was “in abstentia” when convicted by a jury.


23 posted on 06/07/2013 5:19:09 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot (U Think Leftist/Liberals Still Believe That Dissent = Highest Form of Patriotism?)
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To: Sooth2222

Yepp, you are right on the additional facts, and reasonable suspicion - why not sleep at the rest stop?

It was also reported that he had some empty gun cases in plain view in the back seat, which then led to the search of the trunk.


24 posted on 06/07/2013 5:24:29 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot (U Think Leftist/Liberals Still Believe That Dissent = Highest Form of Patriotism?)
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To: bryan999

How much time has he served already? His trial, which he didn’t attend, and conviction was back in 2011 according to one article I read.


25 posted on 06/07/2013 5:25:25 AM PDT by deport
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To: Sooth2222

Like everything, there is more to the story.

*************

It’s hard to determine the facts from what is presented here and other info on the net doesn’t seem to help, imo.


26 posted on 06/07/2013 5:28:24 AM PDT by deport
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To: bryan999

Anyone who lives in New Jersey and does not have plans to get out needs an intervention.


27 posted on 06/07/2013 5:28:30 AM PDT by alarm rider (Basically, we are toast.)
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To: bryan999

Official Web Site of Dustin Shane Reininger

http://dustinshanereininger.com/

Help save this guy


28 posted on 06/07/2013 5:42:43 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: King Moonracer
Let’s all start carrying empty gun cases around. Let’s swamp the system.

Not only gun cases, but start wearing empty holsters everywhere, semi-concealed or open carry. The libs with their panties in a wad will be calling in man-with-a-gun continuously and overwhelm the system.

Oh, and fill the holsters with copies of the Constitution!

29 posted on 06/07/2013 6:21:08 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: bryan999
I have an old friend who moved back to Illinois from Alaska three years ago; to be with family and friends again. But before he left Alaska he sold all his guns. He told me it was solely because of laws just like this.

As soon as he hit the state line, or landed at O'Hare and drove off to his new home, he figured he would have been in violation of some of our STOO-PID Firearm laws. And he's right., folks have actually been arrested when Legally Transporting rifles per IL Law.

[First he thought of driving his RV 'down here', then decided to fly. Either way, screwed.]

30 posted on 06/07/2013 6:21:31 AM PDT by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: DoughtyOne

oh yeah...it’s a shame that certain “known violent” cultures get catered to in this nation...


31 posted on 06/07/2013 6:26:09 AM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html - A real life experience book about the war in Iraq)
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To: sport; All

< He will know next time to stay his ass out of New Jersey. I do. >

We need to compile a list of states to avoid while vacationing. I will NOT go anywhere that won’t allow me to take a gun along for self-protection from predators. If all gunowners would boycott the states that violate the 2nd Amendment, we could at least make their politicians pay for their stupidity!


32 posted on 06/07/2013 6:38:35 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Renegade


Hmmmmmm.
33 posted on 06/07/2013 6:39:31 AM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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To: Susquehanna Patriot
From the story:

"At the trial the jury was told about the exceptions under New Jersey's gun laws. Under those laws firearms do not have to be registered, nor is a permit required if they are merely being transported from one place where it is legal to have them to another place where it is legal to have them. However they must "be carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox, securely tied package, or locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it is being transported."

"Police testified at the trial that the SUV did not have a trunk, and some rifles and shotguns were in unlocked nylon or vinyl cases on the backseat of Reininger's vehicle. They testified that the handgun was loaded and in the glove compartment, contrary to federal law."

His car was an SUV and it's not clear form the story if the long guns were in the second row seat or in the wayback. I wonder if he had the best legal representation. Also, he was tried and convicted in absentia. That probably didn't help him.

34 posted on 06/07/2013 6:53:53 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: bryan999

Needs repeating - Dustin Reininger is a U.S. veteran and former police officer serving 3-5 years in a New Jersey prison for possession of firearms that he legally owned


35 posted on 06/07/2013 6:58:15 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Sooth2222

No money for motel room = probably no money for good representation either.


36 posted on 06/07/2013 7:06:33 AM PDT by mikhailovich
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To: Java4Jay

While I think his sentence is ridiculous, he did have a loaded handgun within reach of the driver, which is illegal in most states, not just Joisy.


37 posted on 06/07/2013 7:25:42 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: bryan999

If that’s how NJ offers “Full Faith and Credit” to citizens of other states, then NJ should be made to pay.


38 posted on 06/07/2013 7:36:33 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: VanShuyten

>While I think his sentence is ridiculous<

That’s a ‘HUGE’ understatement


39 posted on 06/07/2013 7:49:23 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: VanShuyten

By your statement you seem to be a ‘Conformist’


40 posted on 06/07/2013 7:51:05 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: VanShuyten

This should piss you off to no end


41 posted on 06/07/2013 7:51:42 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: alarm rider

“Anyone who lives in New Jersey and does not have plans to get out needs an intervention”

State employees are required now by state law to live in NJ.

NJ gun laws are draconian at best, tending toward stalin/kgb laws. You are not supposed to stop anywhere else on route to or from a gun range,even if the guns are in a locked case,in a locked trunk. Yet we have Camden, Patterson, Newark and even Trenton cowering under gang guns & murders. http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/newjersey.pdf


42 posted on 06/07/2013 8:17:09 AM PDT by JoyjoyfromNJ (everything written by me on FR is my personal opinion & does not represent my employer)
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To: Renegade; from occupied ga

“..It is said that in the 30’s Hitler copied the uniform design of the NJ State Police for the SS uniforms....”

Hugo Boss designed the German SS uniforms.

Similar, maybe, but I think that’s a bit of a stretch...


43 posted on 06/07/2013 8:37:06 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: BCW

lets all face it.

The north east is a different country, I;ve been up there and it felt like I was in a twilight zone.

The laws, the prices, the attitudes, they way they fdrive, the middle finger to people, the arrogance and ignorance and it is homo, pro illegal, anti family, high tax and anti gun.

Why anyone still lives up there is beyond me, Yea I hear the usual of family , work etc but my wife is form there and she left it all behind looked for another job, left her family and now lives more free in north east FL


44 posted on 06/07/2013 9:14:01 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: NFHale

I believe that comment was a bit of hyperbole


45 posted on 06/07/2013 10:18:09 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: bryan999

Stay.
Away.
Far away.
From that sickening toilet.
New Jersey.

Just stick your nose in the air and steer AWAY from the stench.


46 posted on 06/07/2013 10:21:54 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: VanShuyten
he did have a loaded handgun within reach of the driver, which is illegal in most states, not just Joisy.

So what? It was illegal to be educated in PolPot's Cambodia. It was a death sentence to be a Jew in Hitler's Germany. It was a 10 year sentence in Siberia to be considered counterrevolutionary in the former soviet union.

The constitution doesn't say the right to keep and BEAR arms is restricted to the government and its goons.

47 posted on 06/07/2013 10:30:10 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Venturer

For the Lying Liberal Losers, Justice means....Just Us!


48 posted on 06/07/2013 10:58:55 AM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: VanShuyten
he did have a loaded handgun within reach of the driver, which is illegal in most states

Not here in Texas. We have what's called Castle Doctrine.

49 posted on 06/07/2013 11:07:05 AM PDT by Antoninus II
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To: BCW

I somewhat struggle with the cultural situation involving Islamic adherents. Don’t think that I am not realistic about what a threat they represent though.

The problem for me is that there are many Islamic adherents in our nation. Most are just trying to get along in life for the most part.

Even then there’s an insidious problem that is growing though.

Christianity has lived in peace along side the Jewish faith and a number of others on our soil. We each respected each other’s members and beliefs, and things were peaceful and harmonious.

In comes the Islamic adherents and all of a sudden there is push-back across the board. Christianity is now under fire and must make concessions everywhere. That is wrong. If people want to come to our country and live in harmony, then fine, do so. If they want to come here and make us change to make them comfortable, no way.

So even though there is only a small percentage of these people who carry out acts of terrorism, the fact that they are here at all, is very corrosive of our culture.

We are having to change our nation in ways we haven’t had to in over 230 years. That isn’t right.

So when someone from the Justice Department references us putting down the followers of Islam, they have it completely 180 degrees back asswards.

Is is not us who is demeaning the followers of Islam.

It is the followers of Islam who are demeaning and disrespecting the Followers of Christ, Christianity.

Enough already!


50 posted on 06/07/2013 11:23:30 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama lied and four men died after he went to hide...)
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