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NSA snooping has foiled multiple terror plots: Feinstein (Sealing the borders work much better)
NBC ^ | 6/6/2013 | Matthew DeLuca and Kasie Hunt

Posted on 06/06/2013 6:32:57 PM PDT by tobyhill

A secret National Security Agency program to collect vast amounts of phone records has foiled multiple attempted terrorist attacks inside the United States, the chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee told reporters on Thursday.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein did not specify how many attempted attacks had been prevented, or the nature of the threats, but the California Democrat said there had been more than one.

The remarks were made to reporters following a meeting with senators who were concerned over a report in a British newspaper that the NSA had requested phone records from a division of telecommunications giant Verizon. According to Feinstein, 27 senators attended the meeting and voiced concerns about the policy.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fbi; nsa; openborders; policestate; prism; spyingoncitizens; unsecureborders; verizonphonerecords; wideopenborders

1 posted on 06/06/2013 6:32:57 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Yeah, like the terrorist plot to elect Mitt Romney President of the United States.


2 posted on 06/06/2013 6:34:37 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: tobyhill

I thought the war over? Heck didn’t they say this snooping isn’t happening.


3 posted on 06/06/2013 6:34:42 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: tobyhill

How about NOT LETTING PEOPLE WHO WANT TO KILL US ENTER OUR COUNTRY? And how about DEPORTING THE ONES WHO ARE HERE?


4 posted on 06/06/2013 6:35:21 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: jjotto

So if they are indeed tracking everything on the internet then they very well could have used that access during the election.


5 posted on 06/06/2013 6:35:23 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: tobyhill

the democrats see no irony in setting up massive powers to mine data (aka “spy”) on 370 million Americans versus waterboarding 3 terrorists


6 posted on 06/06/2013 6:36:58 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: tobyhill

Make her define “terrorist”. Did she stop a Christian , who wanted to pray at High School graduation? Is that what she means. Did she stop a conservative from voting?

Is that what she means?


7 posted on 06/06/2013 6:37:05 PM PDT by Truth2012
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To: tobyhill
Gosh SEN DiFi, it is super to hear that you support programs that foil terrorist attacks. Will you be supporting Water Boarding next? I mean, it did provide information to our military that helped to stop attacks.
8 posted on 06/06/2013 6:37:32 PM PDT by Volunteer (Though I know that the hypnotized never lie, do ya? - The Who)
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To: tobyhill

Why physically IMPORT them and then expensively DEFEND on an open-ended, ad-hoc basis...?

Sorry but with no shred of sanity at the immigration booth, then there is NO SUCH THING as a “War on Terror”.

Just look at Stockholm, England, and France. And others.

Makes MUCH more sense to keep the f*ckers out at the outset.


9 posted on 06/06/2013 6:40:14 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: tobyhill

I’m not sure what’s scarier - them collecting the information or a sociopath like Feinstein having access to it.


10 posted on 06/06/2013 6:41:16 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tobyhill

Sealing our borders and controlling immigration would be far more cost effective too.

Not to mention, it wouldn’t shred the constitution.


11 posted on 06/06/2013 6:42:00 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: tobyhill

Sure it did; under Bush when they were looking for calls to and from number known to be associated with terrorist leaders overseas!

With this bunch though you have to substitute “terrorist” with “tea party”.


12 posted on 06/06/2013 6:43:23 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the alter of "gun free zones"?)
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To: tobyhill

Remember THIS about Feinstein:

She was great buddies with Jim Jones, the guy who literally came up with “Drinking the KOOL AID” down in Guyana.

She was also the one who most aggressively cross-examined the victims of Ruby Ridge, where the FBI shot a mother holding a baby in her arms.

Her husband is a lawyer for the People’s Republic of China.

She lives in a palace in the swankiest part of SF, perched on a hill overlooking Fisherman’s Wharf.


13 posted on 06/06/2013 6:43:33 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: tobyhill

How can this be..I have been told repeatedly from Messiah Obama there is no more “War on Terror” terrorism has been eradicated..yet he needs to get phone records of average Americans..meanwhile, you have the Russians repeatedly warning us about Tsarnaev and they didnt do a damn thing to stop it..this has NOTHING to do with stopping terrorists, this has everything to do with getting as much info on Americans so they can transfer that info to leftist groups when necessary


14 posted on 06/06/2013 6:47:30 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: gaijin

Didn’t she also release info about a serial killer the police wanted to keep quiet? Went on the news and announce that they knew what kind of shoes he was wearing so he ditched the shoes and killed at least one more victim.


15 posted on 06/06/2013 6:51:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
How can this be..I have been told repeatedly from Messiah Obama there is no more “War on Terror” terrorism has been eradicated..yet he needs to get phone records of average Americans..meanwhile, you have the Russians repeatedly warning us about Tsarnaev and they didnt do a damn thing to stop it..this has NOTHING to do with stopping terrorists, this has everything to do with getting as much info on Americans so they can transfer that info to leftist groups when necessary

Simple answer: he thinks we (traditional, patriotic American citizens) are the terrorists.

Which - it might be worth pointing out - is exactly how the typical member of the muslim brotherhood thinks of us.

16 posted on 06/06/2013 6:51:59 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: tobyhill

Next, they’ll say open borders are just a clever plan to lure terrorists into the country, and to nab them using secret surveillance.


17 posted on 06/06/2013 6:53:16 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Arguing with a marxist is like playing Chess with a Pigeon.)
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To: tobyhill
Sen. Dianne Feinstein did not specify how many attempted attacks had been prevented

She better find out fast and publish. The citizens are enraged at the government screwing with people while enemies are encouraged and funded by the Obama Administration. We have had enough./

18 posted on 06/06/2013 6:55:42 PM PDT by Rapscallion (Get a special prosecutor right now!!!)
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To: tobyhill

As if this traitorous b#### would care about foiling terrorist plots that kill us “little people.” /spit


19 posted on 06/06/2013 6:56:20 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: tobyhill

Even if you believe them (and I don’t) with this kind of justification there is nothing they can not (and mostly are doing)


20 posted on 06/06/2013 6:56:46 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (California does not have a money problem, it has a spending problem.)
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To: tobyhill; All

that’s funny...they had all the information on the two boston marathin bombings handed to them but did nothing with it....yet we are suppose to believe this BS???


21 posted on 06/06/2013 7:02:27 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: tobyhill
Methinks Dianne needs some Ensure and Depends. Poor thing.

5.56mm

22 posted on 06/06/2013 7:04:16 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: tobyhill

Well, that sounds cost effective.

Prove it.


23 posted on 06/06/2013 7:05:22 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: tobyhill

“PatCon” was an ambitious SPLC/FBI op to monitor ALL “right-wing” groups in the USA.

The final OkBomb arrests at OKC were timed VERY delicately in order to permit for maximal prosecution and drama.

But the field is messy unlike HQ, and the blast timetable was suddenly moved up at the last minute, and the blast did go off, leaving the authorities with a HUGE tar-baby on their hands.

But McVeigh’s cover was intact, and very few knew he was a government asset. But there had been 170 deaths that had to be blamed on SOMEONE, and the very worried suits in DC decided McVeigh was then best used as a fall-guy, instead of carrying on in his capacity as an agent.

His sheep-dipping process had involved a very credible process of going around acting nutty, the better to convince genuine kooks, but it would also serve especially well to convince liberal media people of his dastardly and solitary culpability.

Did the gummint WANT to blow up their own building..? Probably not, but they did put all the pieces in place.

A gov that would burn down churches, shoot mommmies in the head, blow up a day-care center:

Would they smuggle guns to narcos?

Would they, say, uh...bug the media?

Would they relentlessly harass 500 groups and even individual donors?

Would they spy on the communications of the innocent American public?

WOULD THEY SPY ON MEMBERS OF CONGRESS?


24 posted on 06/06/2013 7:16:58 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

For the obtuse lib lurkers, let me answer all of your questions: Would they? Nope. THEY HAVE.


25 posted on 06/06/2013 7:21:03 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: tobyhill
There's gotta be a way that Sen. WAR PROFITEER is makin' bucks outta this.
26 posted on 06/06/2013 7:21:07 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: tobyhill
The currently revealed operation violates the 4th Amendment and therefore it does not matter how many "plots" it foiled.

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” Ben Franklin

27 posted on 06/06/2013 7:21:34 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: tobyhill

Maybe, except the one in Boston .... bunch of pee dribbling idiots.


28 posted on 06/06/2013 7:22:36 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Truth - the new hate speech!)
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To: silverleaf

This!


29 posted on 06/06/2013 7:37:13 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: tobyhill

That’s easy for Feinswine to say. she knows she doesn’t have to prove it.

Personally I believe she is full of that stinky stuff.


30 posted on 06/06/2013 7:39:50 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: tobyhill

Uh? Diane!. You missed a few terrorist plots - Boston Massacre; Ft. Hood Massacre; the Little Rock Army Recruiting Center killing/wounding; the NY Airport carbomb attempt - only failed due to the stupidity of the bomber; the LAX killer; the Jewish Center in Seattle killing; and many others.

Also, many plots were broken up by local law enforcement agencies without any federal help. (Others were broken up by the FBI, etc. due to good police work, to their deserved credit).

Seems that the feds fu*ked up on Fast and Furious, don’t you think?

Won’t even comment on how many pirate attacks we missed or bungled.

The only thing missing in the Obama regime’s “intelligence” programs is real “intelligence”, human or otherwise (Benghazi is mixed since US intelligence actually got it right; the White House national security advisors/intelligence people go it all wrong - Donilon, Brennan, not so sure about Clapper but I’m not impressed with him, etc).

However, they seemed to have missed the whole coming debacle of the “Arab Spring”, now the “Arab Winter”, the ousting of Mubarak and the rise of the Moslem Brotherhood, the rise of Al Qaeda in the Magreb, and Hezbollah intervention in Syria.

Like I said earlier, there isn’t much “intelligence” at all in this adminstration. They’d rather worry about transgendered soldiers than killing the enemy.

Or perhaps, putting our soldiers in dresses was aimed at making the Taliban laugh themselves to death. I can see that kind of thinking at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.


31 posted on 06/06/2013 7:47:15 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: tobyhill

Seems that Holder when asked by Senator Kirk today had a great response.

“Can you assure us no members of the Capitol building were monitored?” asked Kirk. When Holder said he wouldn’t be able to answer that question in an “open forum,” Kirk interrupted him. “I think the correct answer is ‘we stayed within our lane and we did not spy on members of Congress.”


32 posted on 06/06/2013 7:58:02 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 can we make it until 2016?)
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To: tobyhill

if they can foil sophisticated terror plots this way, they could find every illegal and deport them.


33 posted on 06/06/2013 9:18:44 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: tobyhill

Ask the people of Boston and visitors who lost their limbs and friends and family, how they feel about the crack job the NSA did at stopping the terrorism there, DiFi!


34 posted on 06/06/2013 9:33:33 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Rapscallion

I’m sure you have, but most people will just go on with their lives. There is no way to stop it when both parties KNEW about this, and made it happen. They are all tyrants. Obama is just worse than some of the GOP, but the GOP went along with this.


35 posted on 06/06/2013 10:46:07 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: tobyhill

I guess former congressman Curt Weldon was onto something back in 2002 when he claimed that data mining could have prevented 9/11.


36 posted on 06/07/2013 4:53:09 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: tobyhill

People are forgetting that this government has identified Tea Partiers, gun control advocates and other conservatives as “terrorists”. When we read that the phone spying efforts were aimed at rooting out terrorists and their networks, I do not think that the government thinks that “terrorist” means what we think it means. I think that they wanted to monitor US calling patterns to identify conservatives and their allies.


37 posted on 06/07/2013 8:13:17 AM PDT by Piranha (We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst.)
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To: Truth2012
foiled multiple attempted terrorist attacks

Knowing the Democrats propensentiy for lies she'll have to define: foiled, multiple, attempted ,terrorist, and attacks.

I suspect the common as well as dictionary definitions won't apply. Unless you're using the Devil's Dictionary?

38 posted on 06/08/2013 5:34:55 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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