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Senate Passes Bill Making the Harassment of a Police Officer a Crime
New York State Senate ^ | 6 Jun 2013

Posted on 06/06/2013 5:11:25 PM PDT by mandaladon

The New York State Senate today passed a bill that creates the crime of aggravated harassment of a police or peace officer. The bill (S.2402), sponsored by Senator Joe Griffo (R-C-I, Rome) would make it a felony to harass, annoy, or threaten a police officer while on duty.

“Our system of laws is established to protect the foundations of our society,” Senator Griffo said. “Police officers who risk their lives every day in our cities and on our highways deserve every possible protection, and those who treat them with disrespect, harass them and create situations that can lead to injuries deserve to pay a price for their actions.”

The bill establishes this crime as a Class E Felony, punishable by up to four years in prison.

(Excerpt) Read more at nysenate.gov ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crime; harasspolice; harrasspolice; ny
We are becoming more and more like the old USSR.
1 posted on 06/06/2013 5:11:25 PM PDT by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

The agents of evil are removing the veneer.


2 posted on 06/06/2013 5:13:47 PM PDT by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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To: mandaladon

Whose definitions of harass and “annoy” is the Gestapo going to use? This looks like a real revenue raiser to me. Those politicians are smart.


3 posted on 06/06/2013 5:14:47 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you think ObamaCare is a train wreck, wait until you see the amnesty bill.)
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To: mandaladon

This pretty much gives the cops the right to beat the crap out of anyone. FUNY.


4 posted on 06/06/2013 5:14:53 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: mandaladon

it is because of these things i dont care when cops die


5 posted on 06/06/2013 5:15:38 PM PDT by bigheadfred ( barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: mandaladon

If the cops now have the right not to be annoyed, who will be the next to be granted this right?


6 posted on 06/06/2013 5:16:29 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: mandaladon

This is the back door to outlawing the filming of police activity. It’ll take one judge to rule that filming is interfering is annoying the police.


7 posted on 06/06/2013 5:17:07 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: bigheadfred
i still care if i know the cop ~ but otherwise there's less and less for anyone to be concerned about.

It is dangerous for the rest of us to make police work too comfortable for the thin skinned.

8 posted on 06/06/2013 5:17:19 PM PDT by muawiyah (Git yer Red Arm Bands here - $29.95 - NOT SOLD IN STORES - TAX FREE)
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To: mandaladon

I suppose taking photos or videos of them is now considered to be annoying.


9 posted on 06/06/2013 5:18:07 PM PDT by teacherwoes ("I saw under the sun in the place of judgment wickedness, and in the place of justice iniquity.")
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To: mandaladon

I bet I know who gets to define “harrassment.”


10 posted on 06/06/2013 5:18:55 PM PDT by clintonh8r ("Europe was created by history. America was created by a philosophy." Baroness Thatcher)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

not anyone , only if you are a white normal Christian male will be attacked, blacks, homo’s, turd pokers, illegals, Hispanics will never be attacked


11 posted on 06/06/2013 5:19:29 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: mandaladon
Sometimes the law defends plunder and participates in it. Thus the beneficiaries are spared the shame, danger, and scruple which their acts would otherwise involve. Sometimes the law places the whole apparatus of judges, police, prisons, and gendarmes at the service of the plunderers, and treats the victim — when he defends himself — as a criminal. - The Law; Frederic Bastiat
12 posted on 06/06/2013 5:20:21 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: mandaladon

Anyone else sure that video tapping them will be considered harassment?

or that feeding the meter for someone else will be?

This law is ripe for abuse.


13 posted on 06/06/2013 5:26:43 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: mandaladon
vague at best, this should play out well in the courts...
14 posted on 06/06/2013 5:28:05 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: mandaladon

This will certainly give them an excuse to shoot dogs and cats—not that they seem to need one anyway.


15 posted on 06/06/2013 5:28:47 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: muawiyah

there seems to be a new wave of cops who are nothing but punks who have never heard of the Constitution


16 posted on 06/06/2013 5:30:54 PM PDT by bigheadfred ( barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: mandaladon

Oh calm down people. There isn’t the slightest change that this law will be abused.


17 posted on 06/06/2013 5:31:33 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The Gubment Has No Legitimacy. It needs to be Removed!)
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To: mandaladon
We are becoming more and more like the old USSR.

There, fixed it.

18 posted on 06/06/2013 5:34:41 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Whose definitions of harass and “annoy” is the Gestapo going to use? This looks like a real revenue raiser to me. Those politicians are smart.

In before the tyranny.

Just last week I annoyed a cop by telling him that he was being absurd for giving me a ticket for not wearing a seat belt.

19 posted on 06/06/2013 5:37:44 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Only much more capable.


20 posted on 06/06/2013 5:37:58 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('He frustrates the devices of the crafty, so that they cannot carry out their plans.' -- Job 5:12)
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>> sponsored by Senator Joe Griffo (R-C-I, Rome)

Conservative Statism on display, and the reason I’m a Conservative Libertarian.

No, I’m not a member of the Libertarian Party that supports homosexual marriage, distribution of heroin, open borders, etc.


21 posted on 06/06/2013 5:40:11 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

>> This looks like a real revenue raiser to me.

It’s a felony. A misdemeanor can prevent one from getting a job. This far exceeds the revenue gig. Don’t even think about looking the wrong way at a cop on the rag.


22 posted on 06/06/2013 5:43:49 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: mandaladon
You have to strike, shove or kick the officer.

Link

23 posted on 06/06/2013 5:45:41 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FlingWingFlyer

This will prevent civilians from filming any cops in action.


24 posted on 06/06/2013 5:47:01 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: mandaladon

Good luck with that law. A lot of people have instant video uploads of police harassment which can be on the Internet in seconds before their cameras or phones are confiscated.


25 posted on 06/06/2013 5:50:35 PM PDT by Bronzy
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To: mandaladon

There is a very large cohort of “conservatives” who are holster-sniffers.


26 posted on 06/06/2013 5:54:03 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: FreeReign
IIRC it used to be called Assaulting an Officer...
27 posted on 06/06/2013 5:58:43 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: mandaladon

If this flies, then the next felony they will go for will be harassing or annoying an elected official, or campaigning against one.


28 posted on 06/06/2013 5:59:35 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Forget it, Jake. It's Eric Holder's people.")
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To: Gene Eric

So I’m “down on the corner” playing the kazoo for Willie and the Poor Boys and some cop comes up and arrests me for being “annoying”. Yikes! Sieg Heil!


29 posted on 06/06/2013 6:03:43 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you think ObamaCare is a train wreck, wait until you see the amnesty bill.)
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To: bigheadfred

I second that. Cops have become the tools of the State. They will follow orders to the end. Just like the good Kapos in the Concentration camps or the Polizie in German cities. Now they have access to us like no time before. We are screwed people and the cops are going to take advantage of it. Not all cops are but, but the bad ones make the good ones all part of the same team.


30 posted on 06/06/2013 6:11:56 PM PDT by crazydad (Obamamohamed is a traitor)
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To: mandaladon

Lots of USSC rules make this law unconstitutional.


31 posted on 06/06/2013 6:14:11 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Or annoy a cop by asking for directions. Sieg Heil indeed!


32 posted on 06/06/2013 6:16:47 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: mandaladon

This is the equivalent of hanging a bull’s eye on the backs of all NYS cops. It is a way to drive a wedge between the population and police and turn this into an “us” vs. “them” conflict. The cops will be give the choice of becoming jack booted thugs or siding with the population. Guess the side “good union folks” will favor? Bingo! The corrupt politicians and state.


33 posted on 06/06/2013 6:28:34 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Chode
IIRC it used to be called Assaulting an Officer...

A.K.A "passing a law that's already on the books".

34 posted on 06/06/2013 6:39:15 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: mandaladon

Ah yes, but the cops will still be able to harass conservatives! Like in Milwaukee the libs can block the streets to traffic but supporters of our Republican Governor could not hold signs on a pedestrian bridge. The libs and the unions of course could HANG signs on the same bridges before the recall election.

Nice to see things don’t change....


35 posted on 06/06/2013 6:54:34 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the alter of "gun free zones"?)
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To: mandaladon
“Our system of laws is established to protect the foundations of our society,” Senator Griffo said. “Police officers who risk their lives every day in our cities and on our highways deserve every possible protection, and those who treat them with disrespect, harass them and deserve to pay a price for their actions.”

Does this clown Griffo have an IQ of record? He sounds like a complete retard, albeit a monumentally arrogant one. He obviously didn't have the time or the smarts to check national crime statistics. But that's fundamentally irrelevant. More on that later.

The two sentences above are a non sequitur. Being a nation of laws does not neutralize the rights and protections of the Constitution. Or the natural law of self protection. Police agencies are created by the citizens to protect and serve; not to rule. The last state of affairs we need to create is the ability for criminals to determine what constitutes 'disrespect or harassment.' Yes, LEOs can behave like or actually be criminals. A dead citizen has no defense even if he is dead right. Stories of LEOs who abuse their power, cite non-existing laws to intimidate citizens are legion now. I can imagine how much worse it will get.

We can agree only on "creating situations that can lead to injuries. But, like "national security," we can't allow criminals to define the term any way they choose.

The number of innocent civilians killed or injured annually as victims of crime exceeds the number of LEOs killed or injured. Yet, this MENSA graduate wants to disarm the ordinary citizen. The Law enforcement folks have guns. When seconds count and the police is just minutes away won't cut it!
I predict an immediate legal challenge and another loss for the wannabe banana republic types.

36 posted on 06/06/2013 6:59:15 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Gene Eric
It’s a felony. A misdemeanor can prevent one from getting a job. This far exceeds the revenue gig.

This is deliberate. They are making more things felonies to disarm us.

Can't own a gun if you are a felon.

37 posted on 06/06/2013 7:13:29 PM PDT by OldMissileer
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To: OldMissileer

That makes more sense IMHO.


38 posted on 06/06/2013 7:14:52 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: FreeReign
100%
39 posted on 06/06/2013 7:17:44 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
If this flies, then the next felony they will go for will be harassing or annoying an elected official, or campaigning against one.

That's already worse than a felony, courtesy of the IRS.
You haven't been paying attention.

I'm serious, those questions have already been asked of applicants, running for office is a no-no, as is teaching young people the Constitution.

40 posted on 06/06/2013 7:21:36 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Bingo, we have a winner. Got to stop the video taping of the police. The police can make up any excuse (after they seize your camera) and then it’s their word against yours .... and you know that their word is worth more within the system.


41 posted on 06/06/2013 7:48:25 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Truth - the new hate speech!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I think that you have spotted the same tendency that I have over the last several years. Every misdemeanor is now being elevated to felony status. Possession of a single bullet is a felony, possession of a rifle magazine (even without the rifle) is a felony, etc. All of these felonies then involve revocation of you voting rights and more importantly your rights to own weapons.


42 posted on 06/06/2013 7:52:44 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Truth - the new hate speech!)
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To: FreeReign
Just last week I annoyed a cop by telling him that he was being absurd for giving me a ticket for not wearing a seat belt.

There should be a Master's Thesis on the evolution of tyranny in this country.

Just read the major newspapers between 1955 and 1965, when installation of seat belts was made mandatory for the manufacturers, but wearing them would NEVER be mandatory.

The persuasion was based entirely on the survival instincts of the average person, in having the option of wearing them. If the heavy boot of the wannabe tyrants had suggested otherwise, the bill would have never passéd. Now, it's just another "revenue enhancement."

Just like the Income Tax, but that's another story...

43 posted on 06/06/2013 8:06:45 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: publius911; FreeReign
The persuasion was based entirely on the survival instincts of the average person, in having the option of wearing them. If the heavy boot of the wannabe tyrants had suggested otherwise, the bill would have never passéd.

Remember the friendly, catchy little "Buckle Up For Safety!" jingle?

Now, the commercial is the gravel-voiced JackBoot: "KlickItErTicket!!!"

We've come a long way, baby - on the road to tyranny, as you said, publius.

44 posted on 06/06/2013 8:14:53 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: FreeReign
You have to strike, shove or kick the officer.

Yes, and Officer Cartman isn't known for invading a peasant's personal space. /sarc

45 posted on 06/06/2013 8:16:42 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: crazydad
Cops have become the tools of the State. They will follow orders to the end. Just like the good Kapos in the Concentration camps or the Polizie in German cities.

Amazing how the Founders got along for DECADES without any cops...

Now, we have an occupying army who solved the problem of the Third Amendment by forcing the peasants to pay them $50 an hour so they could buy some swell digs, instead of having to move in to the substandard housing of the peasant scum.

46 posted on 06/06/2013 8:22:43 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: All

Its beyond time to mount defense.


47 posted on 06/07/2013 4:44:32 AM PDT by Jimmah
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To: mandaladon

New name of NYPD- GESTAPO


48 posted on 06/07/2013 9:36:46 AM PDT by capt B
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To: mandaladon

In NY, until the early 60’s, one was able to “PHYSICALLY RESIST” what he thought was an “Unlawful Arrest”. “We’ve come a long way, baby”- towards totalitarianism


49 posted on 06/07/2013 9:47:56 AM PDT by capt B
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