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Liberty County (Florida) Sheriff Arrested [READ ARREST WARRANT]
WCTV ^ | 6/5/2013 | WCTV

Posted on 06/05/2013 2:05:45 PM PDT by Student0165

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41 posted on 06/05/2013 2:42:02 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Signalman
A governor arresting a sheriff....

Not so strange when we have a president suing an entire state. I really hope I wake up from this nightmare soon.

42 posted on 06/05/2013 2:43:33 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Student0165
Sheriff arrested for defending the Second Amendment of the Constitution

Impossible, everyone knows LEOs are JBTs and immune from arrest. /s

43 posted on 06/05/2013 2:45:33 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: DoughtyOne

The Federal Government can pick and choose which laws they will enforce, but this does not apply to a Sheriff. Figures.


44 posted on 06/05/2013 3:14:23 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Student0165

If his reason was defending the Second Amendment then why did he feel the need to destroy all the documentation on the arrest? He could have just let the guy go and leave it at that.


45 posted on 06/05/2013 3:22:25 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: RightOnTheBorder

they are the highest leo in a county.

think only a state da can go after them, at governor’s demand.


46 posted on 06/05/2013 3:22:48 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 7thson

>>A big black eye for Rick Scott

All Scott did was appoint a replacement, he didn’t order the arrest. Check out the arrest warrant at the link.

The deputy that made the original arrest (SGT Hoagland) went whining to another officer (Inspector Tim McGraw) because the sheriff chose not to allow a bogus weapons charge.


47 posted on 06/05/2013 3:25:31 PM PDT by vikingd00d (nulla seruitus turpior est quam uoluntaria -- Seneca)
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To: Student0165

Ping for reference


48 posted on 06/05/2013 3:29:09 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Student0165

Frankly, before all the hand-ringing starts, I think this is a GREAT place for our side to push back - hard. Not just calling the gov. This Sheriff needs $$ in his legal fund, and bodies at the court house when he appears.

“The only thing that allows evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing...”

I don’t recall who said it, but this would be a great time NOT to let evil succeed. Who’s on the ground there and what do we need to do?


49 posted on 06/05/2013 3:31:07 PM PDT by jimjohn
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To: vette6387
Scott has certainly turned out to be a major disappointment!

I was thinking the same thing. Yikes, when did this guy go off the rails? I remember when I thought he was a conservative American, a breath of fresh air. Is he just another slimy coward like Charlie Crist, running scared from the Democrat newsrooms?

50 posted on 06/05/2013 3:32:28 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Resolute Conservative
In Texas the governor cannot remove a sheriff.

Or any other elected official.

The District Judge removes the Sheriff, in a suit brought by the District Attorney or County Attorney.

51 posted on 06/05/2013 3:36:00 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: jimjohn

If he destroyed arrest records, the Sherriff needs to answer for that.


52 posted on 06/05/2013 3:37:01 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: 0.E.O
If his reason was defending the Second Amendment then why did he feel the need to destroy all the documentation on the arrest? He could have just let the guy go and leave it at that.

I didn't see that he destroyed "all" the documentation, nor even anything that stated what particular records he was charged with destroying or altering. If a person is arrested without legitimate basis, is there any legitimate basis for the government's retention of that person's fingerprints or mug shot?

53 posted on 06/05/2013 3:42:31 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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I didn't see that he destroyed "all" the documentation, nor even anything that stated what particular records he was charged with destroying or altering.

According to the state's statement he "...destroyed or removed official arrest documents from the Liberty County Jail, making it appear as though an arrest never occurred." That would have to be everything associated with it, wouldn't it?

If a person is arrested without legitimate basis, is there any legitimate basis for the government's retention of that person's fingerprints or mug shot?

Nobody is saying the man was arrested without legitimate basis. Carrying a concealed firearm is a class 3 felony in Florida. The sheriff is not quoted as saying the charges were baseless. The quote is, "I believe in the second ammendment and we're not going to charge him." It was a decision on his part not to charge the guy, and that's no doubt well within his powers to do so. I don't have a problem with that if that's all it is. But why destroy records of the arrest? Why try and make it appear that the arrest never happened? That's the part that's got me puzzled.

54 posted on 06/05/2013 3:49:53 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: 0.E.O
The sheriff is not quoted as saying the charges were baseless.

If the Sheriff believes that the statute he was accused of violating was inconsistent with the Supreme Law of the Land, what could the sheriff believe would constitute a legitimate basis for the charge?

55 posted on 06/05/2013 3:59:45 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: Student0165

I can’t cuss so I am at a loss for words.


56 posted on 06/05/2013 4:04:41 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: 0.E.O

If his reason was defending the Second Amendment then why did he feel the need to destroy all the documentation on the arrest? He could have just let the guy go and leave it at that.
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Do you have any idea what the implications are of having a felony firearms arrest on your record?


57 posted on 06/05/2013 4:06:21 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: Student0165

According to FL gun law, concealed carry is a shall issue. So for the officer to arrest someone for concealed carry, he would have to neither have a license, or have a reciprocity license from another state.

That is, if the arresting officer was following the law. But there is no mention in this case. However, the Sheriff was relieved for destroying legal paperwork.

Lots of loose ends, here.


58 posted on 06/05/2013 4:17:56 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: iontheball
Sounds to me like the cops don't have much to do up in Liberty County.

Stupid move by the Sheriff if he tried to destroy arrest records, and stupid of the Deputy to arrest the guy in the first place.

59 posted on 06/05/2013 4:24:38 PM PDT by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: Marcella
In Texas, a constable can arrest a sheriff.

In Texas any peace officer can arrest the Sheriff. Traditionally his own Deputies do not, if for no other reason he can fire them if they attempt to do so, and then they are no longer Deputies, but civilians. ; )

When the Winkler County Sheriff was indicted a few years ago, he surrendered himself at his own jail, to be booked.

I know some states restrict who can arrest the Sheriff, and Texas may have in the past. As a practical matter, back when the only State peace officers were a handful of Rangers, and Police Departments were limited to a few big cities, there were undoubtedly many counties where the only peace officer who could arrest the sheriff was the Constable, because he was the only peace officer that was not a a Deputy.

60 posted on 06/05/2013 4:28:55 PM PDT by Pilsner
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