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Sheriffs take stand on SAFE Act
Messenger Post ^ | Jun 04, 2013 | Erinn Cain

Posted on 06/05/2013 1:22:44 PM PDT by neverdem

Albany, N.Y. — After the passage in January of tougher gun restrictions in New York, sheriffs across the state have joined a federal lawsuit challenging the legislation “to reinforce the sheriffs’ position that portions of the (legislation) need to be changed and have a potentially negative impact on law-abiding citizens,” said Ontario County Sheriff Philip Povero.

The New York State Sheriffs' Association and five individual sheriffs have added their position to the record in the lawsuit filed by the New York State Rifle and Pistol Association regarding the New York Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement (SAFE) Act of 2013. The individual sheriffs listed are Wayne County Sheriff Barry Virts, Erie County Sheriff Timothy Howard, Oswego County Sheriff Reuel Todd, Putnam County Sheriff Donald Smith and Fulton County Sheriff Thomas Lorey....

(Excerpt) Read more at mpnnow.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; safeact; secondamendment; wewillnotcomply; youwillnotdisarmus

1 posted on 06/05/2013 1:22:44 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

And NYS Governor Cuomo has threatened to REMOVE these elected officials, if they don’t comply with the SAFE ACT


2 posted on 06/05/2013 1:25:53 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (" Criminals simply don’t care if they break the law. " by Larry Correia)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
New York has always had a fairly large crowd who felt more comfortable with fascism than any other way of life.

They'd be best off shipping those people back.

3 posted on 06/05/2013 1:28:29 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: neverdem
I wish the Sherriff’s in Maryland would take the same stand.

They went to Annapolic and lobbied against our new gun bill, but it did no good. 4,000 Marylands showed up there and were sloughed off too. The liberal Democrat dingleberries didn't even listen, it was truly a waste of time to even show up there. As with most hearings, those running the hearings have their minds made up before you go there, and they are just putting on a show for the opposition.

4 posted on 06/05/2013 1:29:14 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
And NYS Governor Cuomo has threatened to REMOVE these elected officials, if they don’t comply with the SAFE ACT

Cuomo does not have that power, these are elected officials, not Cuomo appointees.

5 posted on 06/05/2013 1:38:13 PM PDT by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

The chant of the pro-gun voters needs to be:

“Help Stop the Homo!
Vote Against Cuomo!”


6 posted on 06/05/2013 1:39:04 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: neverdem

Sheriffs are armed.


7 posted on 06/05/2013 1:39:24 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.))
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To: muawiyah

muawiyah ~:” New York has always had a fairly large crowd who felt more comfortable with fascism than any other way of life.”

Not ture !!
All the Sheriffs who signed opposition are UpState
DownState and NYC are totally different annimals , but even they have reservations.
The other day ,only 8 people shot and killed in “Gun Contolled “ NYC / Bloomie burg
See how successful “gun control” downstate is .. ? </sarc>


8 posted on 06/05/2013 1:41:57 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (" Criminals simply don’t care if they break the law. " by Larry Correia)
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To: cyborg; Clemenza; Cacique; NYCVirago; The Mayor; Darksheare; hellinahandcart; Chode; ...
Cuomo To Propose Bill To Match Federal Law Allowing For Abortions After 24 Weeks Of Pregnancy

100 students ejected from NYC to Atlanta flight for being too rowdy "The teenagers, all seniors at the Yeshiva of Flatbush, in Brooklyn,..."

FReepmail me if you want on or off my New York ping list.

9 posted on 06/05/2013 1:44:36 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: ez; muawiyah; 2harddrive
ez ~:" Cuomo does not have that power, these are elected officials, not Cuomo appointees." Right .. I thought that too ! Of course that makes sense ; but this is NY State , remember ? See FReeper : http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3021980/posts Original Article http://www.timesunion.com/default/article/Sheriffs-Cuomo-asked-for-silence-4532930.php

One person briefed on the meeting said Cuomo threatened to remove sheriffs from office, a little-used power afforded the state's chief executive under the state constitution. Moss would not confirm this. He did say the meeting was heated at times, but overall he described it as "cordial." (...)

Last week, the Sheriffs' Association as well as several elected sheriffs filed an amicus curiae brief supporting a federal challenge to the SAFE Act"

10 posted on 06/05/2013 1:56:36 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (" Criminals simply don’t care if they break the law. " by Larry Correia)
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To: ez
Repost: See FReeper : http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3021980/posts Original Article

One person briefed on the meeting said Cuomo threatened to remove sheriffs from office, a little-used power afforded the state's chief executive under the state constitution. Moss would not confirm this. He did say the meeting was heated at times, but overall he described it as "cordial." (...) I hate HTML !

11 posted on 06/05/2013 1:59:30 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (" Criminals simply don’t care if they break the law. " by Larry Correia)
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To: Venturer
The liberal Democrat dingleberries didn't even listen, it was truly a waste of time to even show up there.

They're really,really asking for it, aren't they?

Retribution, with neither remorse nor regret.

12 posted on 06/05/2013 2:00:01 PM PDT by Noumenon (What would Michael Collins do?)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Bloomberg lubs’ his fascism ~ seriously ~ and Cuomo wouldn’t have it any other way.


13 posted on 06/05/2013 2:03:56 PM PDT by muawiyah (Git yer Red Arm Bands here - $29.95 - NOT SOLD IN STORES - TAX FREE)
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To: muawiyah

muawiyah ~:” Bloomberg lubs’ his fascism ~ seriously ~ and Cuomo wouldn’t have it any other way.”

True Dat !!
Bloomberg , Cuomo, Sheldon Silver , and Chuckie Schumer are such narrcissists and statists !


14 posted on 06/05/2013 2:10:27 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (" Criminals simply don’t care if they break the law. " by Larry Correia)
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To: neverdem
ex-snook

15 posted on 06/05/2013 3:02:33 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

If Cuomo tries to remove these people for upholding their oatsh then they and any loyal New Yorker supporting them has every right to overthrow Cuomo, arrest him, and try him for his crimes.


16 posted on 06/05/2013 3:14:11 PM PDT by MeganC (You can take my gun when you can grab it with your cold, dead fingers.)
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To: Noumenon

“Retribution, with neither remorse nor regret.”

If it comes to that then give them no quarter because they won’t give it to us.


17 posted on 06/05/2013 3:15:41 PM PDT by MeganC (You can take my gun when you can grab it with your cold, dead fingers.)
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To: MeganC
If it comes to that then give them no quarter because they won’t give it to us.

No, they won't. There will be none so shocked and dismayed as those who presumed themselves immune to the consequences of their actions.

18 posted on 06/05/2013 3:20:14 PM PDT by Noumenon (What would Michael Collins do?)
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To: neverdem

What about the Sheriffs of Nassau and Suffolk counties? That would be the majority of the territory known as Long Island. I don’t know about now, but in the late ‘80’s - early ‘90’s, in Nassau County, if you wanted a Nassau County government job, you had to show your voting card, and it had better be “Republican”.

But all of that was before that declared-cancer-infested McCarthy came along.


19 posted on 06/05/2013 4:13:03 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

“One person briefed on the meeting said Cuomo threatened to remove sheriffs from office, a little-used power afforded the state’s chief executive under the state constitution.”

I’m not about to believe that until you can quote chapter and verse.


20 posted on 06/05/2013 4:17:53 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: sergeantdave; Tilted Irish Kilt; neverdem; ez; MeganC

Below is the text from the NY state constitution. The Sheriff would have a trial. I stated the other night at a forum we had against the safe act that I am sure that the attendees and thousands more would be there to defend our Sheriff Tim Howard. He was with us and he is a great friend. I openly invited Cuomo to TRY and fire Howard, I want him to try I really do. We have no recourse against this thug ass. So at every opportunity I am in his face in the media challenging him.


“The governor may remove any elective sheriff, county clerk, district attorney or register within the term for which he or she shall have been elected; but before so doing the governor shall give to such officer a copy of the charges against him or her and an opportunity of being heard in his or her defense.”

http://www.dos.ny.gov/info/constitution.htm


Two articles covering the forum.

The fight against New York’s new gun control law is shifting into the political arena as gun rights supporters say they will run candidates against state legislators who voted for the law.

Speaking at a packed meeting Monday night in the Shannon Pub, gun advocate and local tea party activist Rus Thompson said the 6 million gun owners in the state are a threat to re-election of Governor Andrew Cuomo next year.

Meeting leaders say repeal of the law isn’t likely any time soon, with the Legislature slated to go home next week. That’s why Thompson said the key is political action in primary challenges.

“Like with the Erie County Legislature we need to run people against those who voted against a repeal of the Safe Act,” said Thompson.

http://news.wbfo.org/post/nys-safe-act-shifts-election-season


Not a bad article at all, the comments? People are just blind. One comment states that he has a fundamental issue with groups that require loyalty oath. Did I require a loyalty oath? NO, I didn’t, what I did was ask the crowd of Patriots to swear the same oath our lawmakers swear to every time they get sworn in to office. Thing is that the people that attended most likely know more about the constitution than all elected people in the country.

http://www.buffalonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=%2F20130603%2FCITYANDREGION%2F130609707%2F1002


21 posted on 06/05/2013 7:04:14 PM PDT by The Mayor (Honesty means never having to look over your shoulder.)
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To: The Mayor

Well, you gave me a 10,000 page document printed in 6 point mouseprint and said Here it is. Here’s what? Give us the paragraph and verse.

Until I get a more clear picture, I’ll stand by.


22 posted on 06/05/2013 7:29:22 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: The Mayor

The Mayor ~:” “Like with the Erie County Legislature we need to run people against those who voted against a repeal of the Safe Act,” said Thompson. “

Agreed ! .. and I will join in the fight alongside you.
Cuomo overstepped the law , violated State constitution, and violated citizen’s rights in the US Constitution.
The need is to motivate upstate voters to get out the numbers; I think you can kiss out metro NYC ,
but Staten Island and Long Island are still in play .

But yeah , time to hold Dem feet to the fire for their backroom ,after hours ,illegal vote to violate citizen’s Federal Constitutional rights !
Cuomo wanted notariety for Presidential 2014 ~ but right now , he has p*ssed off enough people to put his own job in jeopardy.
Replace all the criminals !


23 posted on 06/05/2013 8:00:00 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (" Criminals simply don’t care if they break the law. " by Larry Correia)
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To: sergeantdave

“The governor may remove any elective sheriff, county clerk, district attorney or register within the term for which he or she shall have been elected; but before so doing the governor shall give to such officer a copy of the charges against him or her and an opportunity of being heard in his or her defense.”


24 posted on 06/05/2013 9:24:59 PM PDT by The Mayor (Honesty means never having to look over your shoulder.)
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To: sergeantdave; The Mayor

ARTICLE XIII

Public Officers

§13. (a) Except in counties in the city of New York and except as authorized in section one of article nine of this constitution, registers in counties having registers shall be chosen by the electors of the respective counties once in every three years and whenever the occurring of vacancies shall require; the sheriff and the clerk of each county shall be chosen by the electors once in every three or four years as the legislature shall direct. Sheriffs shall hold no other office. They may be required by law to renew their security, from time to time; and in default of giving such new security, their offices shall be deemed vacant. The governor may remove any elective sheriff, county clerk, district attorney or register within the term for which he or she shall have been elected; but before so doing the governor shall give to such officer a copy of the charges against him or her and an opportunity of being heard in his or her defense.


25 posted on 06/05/2013 9:25:16 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: neverdem

I have now posted this 3 times.

“The governor may remove any elective sheriff, county clerk, district attorney or register within the term for which he or she shall have been elected; but before so doing the governor shall give to such officer a copy of the charges against him or her and an opportunity of being heard in his or her defense.”


26 posted on 06/05/2013 9:27:40 PM PDT by The Mayor (Honesty means never having to look over your shoulder.)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


27 posted on 06/05/2013 9:30:34 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: The Mayor

Good stuff, good research and the reason to FReep. Well done.


28 posted on 06/06/2013 5:43:12 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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