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The rules are the rules and it doesn't matter if ‘Someone lives and someone dies’
Washington Examiner ^

Posted on 06/05/2013 8:53:15 AM PDT by STJPII

This is a death panel of one. Google Sebelius’s death words and you will find NO coverage in the MSM. Obama, Sebelius and Obamacare will needlessly sacrifice this child because of the “policy”. Their actions are damnable. This really hit home with me because I have a ten year old daughter.


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1 posted on 06/05/2013 8:53:15 AM PDT by STJPII
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To: STJPII

Sure. Rules are rules. Ask Holder and the IRS about following the rules. PTUH!


2 posted on 06/05/2013 8:55:00 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: STJPII

To have this disgusting bureaucrat tell someone that their kid is probably going to die, and adding the fact that she is a champion of murdering millions of unborn and newly born babies each year, makes me sick.


3 posted on 06/05/2013 9:00:58 AM PDT by laweeks
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**The rules are the rules and it doesn’t matter if ‘Someone lives and someone dies’**

It matters to God, and they will answer for their sins at the moment of their deaths.


4 posted on 06/05/2013 9:04:25 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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The comment below the piece says it all...

"Sarah and others were excoriated by the left-biased media and Congress while the 4000 page Obamacare was being fast-tracked for passage.......Death panels? Ridiculous, absurd....right?? Get used to it folks, you asked for it, and now you have it."

5 posted on 06/05/2013 9:05:10 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: STJPII

Sorry about your daughter, but, let’s face it, no one gives a rat’s *ss unless you’re a millionaire contributor to the Obama Democrats.


6 posted on 06/05/2013 9:06:42 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: STJPII
Yeah, an adult lung might kill her. Best not to give her one, even though she's dead without it.

Liberals. Always extending the frontiers of idiocy.

7 posted on 06/05/2013 9:09:18 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: STJPII

While a dying girl is photogenic, there’s logic in this. The dying adult who won’t get the lungs hacked to fit into her body doesn’t get the press, but would get the adult lungs and live - and has a greater likelihood of a successful transplant because the organs aren’t “shaved” to fit in her growing body. And, because she’s growing, there is a chance that she’d need another set of lungs as an adult because the mutilated organs don’t grow with her.
If she dies without a transplant, the lungs she didn’t get DO save another life. And if she gets the transplant, there is a chance she needs a second one - so now two people die extending her life.
While I hate saying it, this denial is actually logical and correct by the HHS.


8 posted on 06/05/2013 9:09:37 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: dirtboy

Anybody see John Q?


9 posted on 06/05/2013 9:11:40 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: STJPII
I stand by post #138 posted on another thread. Everyone in need deserves an equal chance at life based on the latest technology medical science has to offer. To simply turn our heads, and allow an outdated policy to stand, and ignore the fact that advances in medicine now means even younger patients are able to receive adult lungs is morally unacceptable. I pray that same technology allows for increased availability, perhaps by growing organs outside the body, using parts of parts and etc.
10 posted on 06/05/2013 9:15:28 AM PDT by Errant
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To: STJPII

You can bet your last dollar that none of these pig politicians and Dc lawyers, judges, Chicago mobsters will follow any rules they choose to ignore and nothing will be done about it.


11 posted on 06/05/2013 9:24:30 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: STJPII

Courtesy of Obamacare,coming to your doctors office soon


12 posted on 06/05/2013 9:29:42 AM PDT by ballplayer
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NO IT IS NOT!!!

The very idea that the federal government has the right to make this decision is obscene! This is NOT HHS’s decision to make, this is a decision to be made by the doctor and the girl and her parents.

I didn’t read the article - if they are taking gubmint handouts, then they have participated in the obscenity and given the feds the power to make decisions for them.


13 posted on 06/05/2013 9:40:10 AM PDT by GilesB
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To: Neoliberalnot
You can bet your last dollar that none of these pig politicians and Dc lawyers, judges, Chicago mobsters will follow any rules they choose to ignore and nothing will be done about it.

Nothing will be heard about it either. HIPAA.

14 posted on 06/05/2013 10:04:34 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: STJPII

Unless you’re a lesbian teacher suing the Catholic Church... Then the rules don’t apply because sexual behavior is more important than contractual law...

But the right to life is not greater than the rules.


15 posted on 06/05/2013 10:09:59 AM PDT by Skywise
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To: tbw2

“While a dying girl is photogenic, there’s logic in this. The dying adult who won’t get the lungs hacked to fit into her body doesn’t get the press, but would get the adult lungs and live - and has a greater likelihood of a successful transplant because the organs aren’t “shaved” to fit in her growing body. And, because she’s growing, there is a chance that she’d need another set of lungs as an adult because the mutilated organs don’t grow with her.
If she dies without a transplant, the lungs she didn’t get DO save another life. And if she gets the transplant, there is a chance she needs a second one - so now two people die extending her life.
While I hate saying it, this denial is actually logical and correct by the HHS.”

BULL SHIT.
Stop with the “photogenic” language crap, which is only used to impinge upon the objectivity of my argument. Interestingly, it is your position that is completely arbitrary. How can the HHS become slave to a bureaucratic, FIXED AGE age cut off over an individual, qualitative assessment of each case?

Using language such as “hacked” to describe the necessity of personalizing the lung to its individual recipient exposes the bias in your position and ignores the advances in medical science which now make the likelihood of success equal to that of an adult transplant.

If you truly are conservative, you are completely missing the canary in the coal mine here.


16 posted on 06/05/2013 10:35:47 AM PDT by STJPII
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To: STJPII
Frau Sebelius seems to relish this early opportunity to exercise Death Panel powers.


17 posted on 06/05/2013 10:38:28 AM PDT by Amagi (Obama is never so animated as when he is assaulting the Constitution.)
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“...this denial is actually logical and correct...”

Wanna bet who’d get the lung if it was a senator’s kid or the child of some other political bigwig?


18 posted on 06/05/2013 10:41:33 AM PDT by beelzepug (Telling other people they need to die is a good way to get your own lamp blown out.)
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To: Amagi

She needs a Colonel Klink monocle to complete the image.


19 posted on 06/05/2013 10:43:26 AM PDT by beelzepug (Telling other people they need to die is a good way to get your own lamp blown out.)
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To: GilesB
The very idea that the federal government has the right to make this decision is obscene! This is NOT HHS’s decision to make, this is a decision to be made by the doctor and the girl and her parents.

INDEED!

20 posted on 06/05/2013 10:44:54 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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