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5 Surprising Facts About Gay Conversion Therapy
LiveScience ^ | June 4, 2013 | Stephanie Pappas

Posted on 06/04/2013 8:15:15 PM PDT by EveningStar

Gay Therapy

Gay conversion therapy, as it is known, supposedly helps gay people overcome same-sex attractions. But mainstream psychologists say the therapy is ineffective, unethical and often harmful, exacerbating anxiety and self-hatred among those treated for what is not a mental disorder.

In 2013, two cases involving the therapy to convert gay people into heterosexuals hit the courts, with one seeking to sue counselors who offer the therapy and the other seeking to defend them.

Here are five things you need to know about the therapy and the current lawsuits.

(Excerpt) Read more at livescience.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: gay; gayconversiontherapy; gaykkk; gaystapo; homofascists; homosexual; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; reparativetherapy; robertspitzer; scientology; sodomhusseinobama; spitzer; therapy
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To: EveningStar

LiveScience aka dead science.

“Psychology” is rather feeble when faced with a spiritual problem. Paraphilias are spiritual problems.


21 posted on 06/04/2013 9:32:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: EveningStar

Oh it most certainly is, and always has been a mental disorder.


22 posted on 06/04/2013 9:32:37 PM PDT by Bullish (Psalm 46)
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To: Bullish

It is larger: a spiritual disorder. The reduction of the human spirit to mere psychology is one of the biggest disasters of modernism. Biologically provable influences apart (and there’s nothing inherently wrong with compassionate use of psych drugs) — it’s like trying to fix a car with, not a whole toolkit, but a dull knife.


23 posted on 06/04/2013 9:36:10 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: ansel12

I’d rather study relativity than make sense of this position.


24 posted on 06/04/2013 9:37:46 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: EveningStar

That’s what I said, you should be familiar with this lefty writer after posting so many of her articles.

You handpicked this article promoting the homosexual agenda from a lame, homosexual activist, writer.


25 posted on 06/04/2013 9:39:11 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: ansel12

The title might be misleading or need a barf alert and so? Ask for the barf alert and move on. Most freepers are smart enough to delve a little to see what’s up.


26 posted on 06/04/2013 9:41:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I don’t need to ignore posts made to me and stay off the thread, unless that was some kind of order.


27 posted on 06/04/2013 9:43:22 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: ansel12

A suggestion that you do something constructive if something’s misleading. Not just sit and gnaw and gnaw.


28 posted on 06/04/2013 9:44:28 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: EveningStar

LiveScience is DeadSpirituality.


29 posted on 06/04/2013 9:45:43 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Why don’t you quit gnawing at nothing, and get back to your own life?


30 posted on 06/04/2013 9:49:29 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: EveningStar
Do queers really want to bring up the subject of the nonscientific way that homosexuality was remove from the DSM? Really?

Do they really want us to remind them that it was a political charade devoid of scientific facts, instead relying on two shaky "studies," one by a homosexual pedophile who studied pathological prison populations and the rape of small children and the other by a politically motivated hack who merely interviewed her homosexual friends and gave them Rorschach tests to determine psychological health?

Do they really want us to bring up the well-documented extreme harassment of APA members over years, the deceit employed in the voting process, and the bizarre, obscene behavior of activist homosexuals as they took over APA conventions and meetings?

Do they really think any of this is normal?

31 posted on 06/04/2013 9:50:45 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: svcw
I also know (acquaintances) several homosexuals who hate who they are.....

You know that's our fault, don't you? (/sarc)

32 posted on 06/04/2013 9:52:00 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: EveningStar

Well, Star, I did look. It looks like a rather lightweight, cherry picked critique which, furthermore, mostly dealt with psychology-based rather than spirituality-based counseling. Spirituality, when tied into a small-o orthodox Christian faith, can be quite powerful. Homosexuality or other paraphilia can be a spiritual “flat tire” permitted by a God who is interested in saving an entire soul. The person thus helped isn’t going to bother being interviewed by atheistic or weak-God scientists any more than the blind man who Jesus gave his sight would bother.


33 posted on 06/04/2013 9:55:01 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: ansel12

Your own petty pot shot shows you have nothing better... look at what I just told Star, if you want to see something constructive.


34 posted on 06/04/2013 9:55:41 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That’s nice, now maybe you can get back to the thread and quit gnawing at me and let me read the constructive posts on this Eveningstar handpicked article promoting the homosexual agenda.


35 posted on 06/04/2013 10:04:44 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: ansel12

Jesus’ work is... NICE?

Is this your level?


36 posted on 06/04/2013 10:08:14 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: cookcounty
My first comprehension of a homosexual, although I didn't know it until after the fact, was with a renter of my family's garage apartment. Older man who worked up the street at an Episcopal Church in the neighborhood as a grounds keeper/maintenance man. He eventually moved out, didn't know where, and soon after learned that he had been murdered. In my tender young years, I had never known anyone who had been murdered before. I overheard the whisperings of my parents and their friends that he had taken up with some other men, and that they had likely killed him. I also heard some other talk that seemed unsavory in my innocence, something about sexuality. I never delved any further.

Forth through fifth grade. Had a high-black male math teacher who dressed "fabulously" and was extremely flamboyant - neck scarf, satin shirts and all. One of the most hateful men I'd ever met up until that point. He would literally beat students with a ruler and holler at them. I was petrified of him.

Also had a band teacher in High School who liked to touch my developing peach fuzz mustache. Lived alone in my neighborhood. Later found out that he had been murdered.

Another high school teacher, a humanities teacher, was probably in his 50's. He disappeared abruptly from teaching and we learned that he died, apparently from some disease. This was in the early 80's.

Yeah, these people are all SO normal.

37 posted on 06/04/2013 10:11:43 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Good Lord , have you become my stalker?

You want to jump on the thread and go after me in behalf of Evening star?

Weird, now you do troll baiting and try to use Jesus?

You really are acting bizarre, and how I became your obsession is a puzzle, but there must be some thread from the past that you are carrying around, you should share it with me so I know what kind of odd stalker I’m dealing with.


38 posted on 06/04/2013 10:14:21 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: ansel12

OK, you complained about a hinky situation. Fair enough. But that’s about as far as you could constructively get.

I am not some casual flinger-arounder of the name of Jesus. Go to my freep page and read it and then I dare you to say that again to me with a straight face.


39 posted on 06/04/2013 10:21:18 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Wow, you are in the Ozone tonight, just rambling and raging, and angry as all get out that I posted to Evening Star and using Jesus to do it even.

You need to get a grip on yourself, you might want to go look at your first arrogant post to me and take your own advice, while I try to get back to the thread topic, the article, the lefty author, and responding to the thread poster.


40 posted on 06/04/2013 10:27:32 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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