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Smoking employees cost $6,000 a year more, study finds
MSNBC ^ | 06/03/2013 | Maggie Fox

Posted on 06/04/2013 7:40:07 AM PDT by LonelyCon

Smokers cost their employers nearly $6,000 a year more than staff who don’t smoke, researchers said on Monday in what they say is the first comprehensive look at the issue. And in what some might see as a dark twist, they’ve taken into account any savings that might come because smokers tend to die younger than non-smokers, drawing less in pension costs. The findings support a growing trend among employers to not only ban smoking in the workplace, but to refuse to hire smokers in the first place, argues Micah Berman of Ohio State University, who led the study.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: employment; health; smoking
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If a business owner doesn't want to employ people or serve customers based on the choices they make like smoking, getting fat, following a particular religion he doesn't believe in, or being gay, that is not discrimination. It's only only wrong when you discriminate against people who are different through no fault of their own like their race or a disability.
1 posted on 06/04/2013 7:40:07 AM PDT by LonelyCon
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And in what some might see as a dark twist, they’ve taken into account any savings that might come because smokers tend to die younger than non-smokers, drawing less in pension costs.

We have an Actuary in the family. It is a dark, dark science.


2 posted on 06/04/2013 7:41:27 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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I’m still waiting for MSNBC to report on the added cost of employing gay men. Is it okay in the MSNBC world to refuse to hire gay men because of their much higher medical expenses (ignoring the ick factor)?


3 posted on 06/04/2013 7:42:14 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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How much more a year do jerkball liberals cost an employer; who have to constantly remind each other that everything is George Bush’s fault, who have to discuss how the puddles in the gutter after it rains are signs of climate change, and how we must be sensitive to the lesbian, gay, and transgendered illegal single mothers who are only looking to better themselves; and think they are entitled to spend their employer’s time & resources tweeting each other to make sure they catch ShaLayLay doing the Harlem shuffle on their smartphones while Kim Kardashian pulls small, endangered birds out of her asscrack? How about that study?


4 posted on 06/04/2013 7:45:41 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: LonelyCon

i call BS.


5 posted on 06/04/2013 7:47:59 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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“It’s only only wrong when you discriminate against people who are different through no fault of their own like their race or a disability.”

So Hooters should be forced to hire me to wait tables? Not my fault I have a penis and no breasts...


6 posted on 06/04/2013 7:48:10 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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Our whole traffic department smokes. There are four of them I think they blow about 6 man hours a day, between them standing out in the parking lot.

Plus their section of the office smells like an ashtray.


7 posted on 06/04/2013 7:48:39 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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I call BS on this study. How the heck can one calculate 6,000 dollars more anyway. I grab recklessly grab a smoke every so often and I’ve never cost an employer any more money in twenty years. Unless smokers are taking breaks they shouldn’t be for 30 minutes to an hour a day to smoke when they should be productive I don’t get it. However, people slack off in all kinds of ways.


8 posted on 06/04/2013 7:48:59 AM PDT by Sheapdog (Chew the meat, spit out the bones)
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How does that cost compare with those who engage in high risk homosexual sex that can lead to HIV and AIDS?

If a business or the government is going to be selective based on personal choices that are harmful or detrimental to a person’s health isn’t it discriminatory to consider certain conduct but ignore other, more politically correct, conduct?


9 posted on 06/04/2013 7:51:16 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama-Ville - Land of The Freebies, Home of the Enslaved)
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Bull.


10 posted on 06/04/2013 7:52:04 AM PDT by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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The main thrust of the article is lost productivity due to smoke breaks. No one thought of the impact of coffee breaks, eh?

Also, since the major factor was lost productivity, couldn't you just solve that by letting smokers smoke at their desk?

11 posted on 06/04/2013 7:52:53 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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if they’re gonna bemoan a smoke break or two each day for smokers, hows about bathroom breaks? water cooler brakes? or hows about surfing the web brakes?

if ya really don’t wanna have to carp about 2 fifteen minute breaks, let the smoker smoke at his desk.

that’s half the expense right there. bogus, cherry picking of data.

and what if ya don’t smoke at work?

and did you see the diff in pensions? no way those figures are credible.


12 posted on 06/04/2013 7:54:29 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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“I’ll have your double cheeseburger, chili fries....and a Diet Coke”


13 posted on 06/04/2013 7:56:24 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Piffle....)
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I think they blow about 6 man hours a day, between them standing out in the parking lot.

And that problem was caused by tbe anti smokers who banned smoking in the office while you work.

14 posted on 06/04/2013 7:59:57 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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To: LonelyCon

Total crap. Pretty soon you’ll see “gun ownership among employees costs employers $1000000000000 more to ensure”


15 posted on 06/04/2013 8:00:36 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Why am I both pro-life & pro-gun? Because both positions defend the innocent and protect the weak.)
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Anymore this is not an employee/employer problem. Since Obamacare has been dumped on us, this is now the Government’s problem.

And we should expect the gubmint to target smokers and over-eaters any minute.

Meanwhile the queers with their unhealthy and dangerous lifestyle... They get a pass.


16 posted on 06/04/2013 8:01:57 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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It sounds like you are very respectful of your employer however many others are not. Beside there standard break smokers take additional breaks for smoking.


17 posted on 06/04/2013 8:02:04 AM PDT by New Perspective (Proud father of a 9 yr old son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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Smoking employees cost $6,000 a year more, study finds

There must be a cheaper way to smoke employees. Mesquite wood, perhaps?

18 posted on 06/04/2013 8:03:14 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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I’m sure they’d be content to sit at their desks and smoke while they work, but they’ve been forced to go outside by the nanny staters.

Posted from my Verizon phone from the company smoke break area...


19 posted on 06/04/2013 8:04:01 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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Mostly the large ones are hard to place on the rotisserie.

The skinny ones smoke ok.

20 posted on 06/04/2013 8:14:50 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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