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Timbuktuís slaves liberated as Islamists flee
Washington Post ^ | June 1, 2013 | By Sudarsan Raghavan

Posted on 06/01/2013 1:21:29 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee

Timbuktu, Mali — Her light-skinned master no longer beats her with a camel whip. He no longer makes her work from dawn to night without pay. He fled with his family four months ago, along with the Islamists who briefly ruled this historic city.

“I am free,” said Aminaya Traore, a 50-year-old woman who was born a slave. “I can do whatever I want.”

Across this sand-swept city, hundreds of modern-day slaves are experiencing a sense of liberation, many for the first time. Nearly all the lighter-skinned Tuaregs and Arab Moors who for generations exploited them have fled the city, fearing reprisal attacks for supporting a separatist rebellion that helped ignite the Islamist takeover of Mali’s north last year.

“Under the Islamists, blacks were exploited even more by the pink-skinned people,” said Roukiatou Cisse, a social worker with Temedt, a human rights group, referring to the Tuaregs and Arab Moors. “They told them, ‘We are with the Islamists. We are in power. We are the masters and you are our slaves. We will do what we want.’ ”

“Now, the slaves have profited by the pink-skinned people leaving.”

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KEYWORDS: africa; alqaeda; arabs; france; mali; timbuktu; tuaregs
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1 posted on 06/01/2013 1:21:29 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Under the Islamists, blacks were exploited even more by the pink-skinned people,” said Roukiatou Cisse, a social worker with Temedt, a human rights group, referring to the Tuaregs and Arab Moors.

The Moors were pink skinned people. What happened to Othello?

2 posted on 06/01/2013 1:25:18 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

>> Nearly all the lighter-skinned Tuaregs...

VW named its SUV after a *slavemaster* people?


3 posted on 06/01/2013 1:27:52 PM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: Brad from Tennessee

What does a slave do who has just been set free.

Who feeds them? Must they work? Where do they live, find shelter, what do they do for money? How much education do they have?


4 posted on 06/01/2013 1:28:01 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Brad from Tennessee
“Under the Islamists, blacks were exploited even more by the pink-skinned people,” said Roukiatou Cisse, a social worker with Temedt, a human rights group, referring to the Tuaregs and Arab Moors. “They told them, ‘We are with the Islamists. We are in power. We are the masters and you are our slaves. We will do what we want.’ ”

But then this:

“Now, the slaves have profited by the pink-skinned people leaving.”

Apparently black hatred of whites aka pinks knows no bounds there. Screw 'me. Part of me hopes the islamiacs come back.

5 posted on 06/01/2013 1:28:16 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Venturer

The same issues arose in the US after the Civil War.


6 posted on 06/01/2013 1:32:15 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Venturer

All excellent questions that our abolitionists should have asked.


7 posted on 06/01/2013 1:36:34 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Venturer

I just asked that same question. Might learn something if we watch this evolve.


8 posted on 06/01/2013 1:39:03 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: Nervous Tick

“>> Nearly all the lighter-skinned Tuaregs...

VW named its SUV after a *slavemaster* people?”

What did you expect from Hitler’s company?


9 posted on 06/01/2013 1:40:21 PM PDT by sagar
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To: Venturer

The Democratic Party will register them all as Chicago voters and then sign them up for food stamps and EBT cards. Now they will be on the Progressive plantation. :-)


10 posted on 06/01/2013 1:40:22 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

It’s a relativistic matter ~ but enough banter, praise God!


11 posted on 06/01/2013 1:41:27 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: kabumpo
My abolitionist ancestors busied themselves with disposing of slave catchers over in the family orchard. They'd mark the site with piles of rocks.

Right up against slavery and its evils, the Abolitionists opted for freedom.

12 posted on 06/01/2013 1:43:21 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Nervous Tick

“VW named its SUV after a *slavemaster* people?”

There was quite a PC fuss over it and VW’s answer was, f*ck you. Actually, I was happy with their answer as I’m really sick of PC. As Freud said, “Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.” Sometimes a name is just a name.


13 posted on 06/01/2013 1:43:23 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather

not all the Tuaregs were into slavery either.


14 posted on 06/01/2013 1:44:38 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The Washington Post is new to being an Obama enemy...

OK listen up you Washington Post people. Janet and her goons don’t like it when people say bad things about Muslims. They find that ‘extreme’ - meaning it’s NOT how they feel. Interesting way to define extreme... but I digress. This article puts you on a list - and that list will be shared with the IRS... So get with the program guys..


15 posted on 06/01/2013 1:49:05 PM PDT by GOPJ (Swedes bring their cars..savages their flames..burning cars a metaphor. D. Greenfield)
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To: Cowboy Bob
The Moors were pink skinned people. What happened to Othello?

"Moor" is a term used for Muslims of North African or Arab origin. They generally have a darker complexion than Northern Europeans, but are recognizably Caucasian, like these Tunisian women.


16 posted on 06/01/2013 1:50:17 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Venturer

Slaves have always worked - the difference will be that they’ll get paid.


17 posted on 06/01/2013 1:50:22 PM PDT by GOPJ (Swedes bring their cars..savages their flames..burning cars a metaphor. D. Greenfield)
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To: Nervous Tick
VW named its SUV after a *slavemaster* people?

Why is that a surprise?

18 posted on 06/01/2013 1:55:33 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: piytar
“Now, the slaves have profited by the pink-skinned people leaving.”

Apparently black hatred of whites aka pinks knows no bounds there. Screw 'me. Part of me hopes the islamiacs come back.


It sounds to me like they are making a distinction between European whites and the Arab Islamists.

19 posted on 06/01/2013 1:55:37 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("There can be no dialogue with the prince of this world." -- Francis)
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To: piytar

The “pink skins” they are referring to are Arab Islamists who have taken a hike, leaving these poor people free from terror. This is what I would call a feel-good story.


20 posted on 06/01/2013 1:55:50 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: piytar

Apparently black hatred of whites aka pinks knows no bounds there. Screw ‘me. Part of me hopes the islamiacs come back.


They’ve only seen “pinks” as people who have enslaved and abused them. Let a few missionaries from Voice of the Martyrs or Samaritan’s Purse visit them and they might change their point of view.


21 posted on 06/01/2013 1:58:20 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The word “muslim” not used once in the story. Guess we should be thankful that at least they use the word “Islamist”.


22 posted on 06/01/2013 2:00:24 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Brad from Tennessee

the lighter-skinned Tuaregs and Arab Moors
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meaning about the color of the Arab Moor, Barry Dunham alias Barak Hussien Obama

IOW he didnt need a white baby momma


23 posted on 06/01/2013 2:01:23 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: GOPJ

There seems to be a rule emerging that you can criticize “islamists” but not “muslims”. As if islamists are really real muslims.


24 posted on 06/01/2013 2:03:01 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Brad from Tennessee; Revolting cat!

The Democrats will make sure they are returned to the plantation.


25 posted on 06/01/2013 2:03:37 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: DManA

That should read As if islamists are NOT really real muslims.


26 posted on 06/01/2013 2:03:45 PM PDT by DManA
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To: piytar

Freeing of slaves is always a cause for celebration.

The aftermath isn’t always entirely positive, but that doesn’t mean the liberation isn’t a good thing.


27 posted on 06/01/2013 2:08:44 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: muawiyah

And when the illiterate unskilled slaves were freed en masse on one day, this helped them how?


28 posted on 06/01/2013 2:08:46 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: DManA
Islamists, Moslems, the guys who read this damp fiction


29 posted on 06/01/2013 2:08:49 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: kabumpo

Freedom is its own reward. Bet you’d rebel at even one hour of slavery ~ and that’s a testable hypothesis.


30 posted on 06/01/2013 2:09:56 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: MestaMachine; kabumpo

A better question would be: who is feeding the Tuaregs and Moors now that they do not have slaves to get them food?

I suspect that the former slaves will do OK.


31 posted on 06/01/2013 2:18:19 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: kabumpo
And when the illiterate unskilled slaves were freed en masse on one day, this helped them how?

Answer: They are no longer owned like a cow or goat. They are human beings again. They may well starve and die. I doubt it, though. Someone who could survive slavery probably has a greater will to live than most who have known only freedom and luxury. But when (not if ... every living thing dies) they die at least they will die free.

32 posted on 06/01/2013 2:20:27 PM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Brad from Tennessee.


33 posted on 06/01/2013 2:23:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SatinDoll

Muslim slavery has seldom had much of an economic basis. IOW, slaves were not generally a significant source of income.

Rather, slaves were a way of demonstrating one’s wealth and power. Sort of like a two-legged Ferrari.

Conspicuous consumption, not production.

This was, of course, totally different from plantation slavery in the New World, where slaves were an economic resource.


34 posted on 06/01/2013 2:29:41 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Brad from Tennessee

2.4% of the Malians are Christians, and if Christians work quickly, they could probably double or triple that number, along with teaching the former slaves how to resist being enslaved again. Only 10% or so of the Malians are Tuareg or Arab, so resistance could be very effective.

Islam is hemorrhaging followers in Africa, because black Africans are realizing that Arabs will always treat black Muslims as slaves, but with Christianity there is no slavery.

Therefore the Christian churches of Africa are growing by leaps and bounds: Anglican, Catholic, and Evangelical. And they are the front line against Islam and its deprivations.


35 posted on 06/01/2013 2:43:30 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Venturer
Who feeds them? Must they work? Where do they live, find shelter, what do they do for money? How much education do they have?

You are committing common low-information error : Judging a geographically alien society by your own contemporary standards. That usual happens when commenting, scholarly or otherwise, about remote historical events, or remote geographic subcultures.
Context is everything.

Presumably, slaves have no income, save material minimum subsistence provided by th 'masters.' It is impossible to answer those questions. The one about education is particularly naïve in the cruelty inherent in the question.

Normally, the answers to those questions (in our sheltered universe) would center around the society at large, but in this instance, the society at large, absent the muslims would be only marginally different. Blacks have always enslaved other blacks as far a history can infer (ignoring the nuts who channel presumed totally disappeared written 'history' ironically centered around Timbuktu.)

36 posted on 06/01/2013 2:49:19 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

American Christian missionaries in many parts of Africa paved the way for later U.S. diplomatic missions.


37 posted on 06/01/2013 3:05:09 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Tuaregs light skinned? All relative, I guess.

And no one in the media or the political world will take the lesson here so clearly taught about Moslems and slavery or the one about Moslems and racial imperialism.

38 posted on 06/01/2013 3:10:44 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLeNE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: Nervous Tick

VW certainly did. National Geographic once did a long colorful ticle about the Tuaregs and the population that serves them. NatG couldn’t quite get around to calling those serving folks “slaves” though, but it was apparent that slavery is the relationship.


39 posted on 06/01/2013 3:14:01 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLeNE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: Cowboy Bob

The Moors in Spain and North Africa are/were Berbers, not Arabs. They run the whole gamut of skin tones and there ire blue eyes and light hair among them. Tuaregs tend to a bluish skin tone because of the densely dyed blue robes they wear. The dye rubs off and stains their skin. There are certain linguistic and orthographic characteristics that have been linked by some to the North European population. The Tuaregs could almost be described as Vikings on Camels by their habits and methods of raiding and trade.


40 posted on 06/01/2013 3:21:06 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLeNE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: kabumpo

Some of the abolitionists knew and assumed that it would desolate the South for centuries. Some of them were aiming at that result.


41 posted on 06/01/2013 3:22:46 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLeNE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Actually, and I am not being sarcastic, I would almost expect that our government is rushing people over there to sign up those newly freed people as refugees to populate some uncooperative town in the USA. Such has been happening for years.


42 posted on 06/01/2013 3:25:01 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLeNE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: Gen.Blather

Tuaregs have always had a romantic aura as desert camel nomads with bright blue robes and turbans. National Geographic spoke of their slaves as living in willing subjection because they loved their Tuareg masters who took care of them. NatGraph did mince words a bit though.


43 posted on 06/01/2013 3:29:36 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLeNE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: kabumpo

I think that’s why the Radical Republicans set up Reconstruction and The Freedmen’s Bank.
General William Tecumseh Sherman’s Special Field Orders #15 was “40 acres and a mule” to every freedman. It didn’t happen.


44 posted on 06/01/2013 3:39:40 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Sherman Logan

I think you’re referring to house slaves in the Middle East. Timbuktu is NOT in the ME.

What existed in Tumbuktu, which is the place the article refers to, probably doesn’t fit that scenario. The slaves would know how to acquire food and perform mundane house chores including the acquisition and preparation of meals. Slave masters from elsewhere, or even if local, would not do menial chores. (Tuareg people are migratory; Moors may be local, but they would not stoop to getting their own food.)


45 posted on 06/01/2013 3:40:24 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: publius911

I guess I am just a low information type of guy.

That’s what I get for trying to be compassionate.

In fact I was thinking about the people who were turned loose on the United States 250 years ago and who still have no education, Affirmative Action Jobs and just elected a descendent of slave traders to occupy the White House.


46 posted on 06/01/2013 5:27:38 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: katana

That has to be one of the most idiotic things I have ever read in my life.
”Freedom” as you describe it - in a vaccuum of planning and structure after decades of slavery is like throwing someone out the door of a speeding car.


47 posted on 06/01/2013 6:19:29 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: kabumpo; katana

“Those who would deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves; and, under a just God, cannot long retain it.”
- Abraham Lincoln


48 posted on 06/01/2013 6:25:09 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Gen.Blather

>> “Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.”

Sometimes Islamonazi filth is just Islamonazi filth.

(You OK with that?)


49 posted on 06/01/2013 6:33:47 PM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: sagar

>> What did you expect from Hitler’s company?

heh... yeah, what was I thinking??!?


50 posted on 06/01/2013 7:32:08 PM PDT by Nervous Tick
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