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Paterno family vs. NCAA lawsuit illustrates that Happy Valley divide is still very real
Yahoo ^ | 05/30/2013 | Dan Wetzel

Posted on 05/30/2013 12:34:33 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd

The lawyer for the family of the late Joe Paterno announced Wednesday that he plans on suing the NCAA, its president Mark Emmert and its executive committee chairman, Ed Ray.

The decision is no surprise – it's been anticipated long before it was announced on Wednesday's edition of "Costas Tonight."

The suit's goal is "to redress the NCAA's 100-percent adoption of the Freeh report and the imposition of a binding-consent decree," Wick Sollers, the Paterno family attorney, said on the NBC Sports Network show.

In layman's terms, the Paternos aren't pleased that Penn State hired former FBI head Louis Freeh to investigate the school's involvement in the Jerry Sandusky child molestation scandal. They also aren't pleased that the school fully accepted Freeh's evidence and conclusion, which painted some administrators and Paterno in a negative light.

And they are especially not pleased that the NCAA took Penn State's admission as the basis for levying significant sanctions on the school, including a $60-million fine, four years of scholarship reductions, a four-year postseason ban and, notably, the vacating of many of Joe Paterno's victories.

Since Paterno v. Penn State might be too eye-popping, this may end up Paterno v. NCAA. At its heart though, this is an internal fight, the Paternos (and their supporters) against the university he worked at for over six decades.

Sollers said the school was forced into accepting the punishment due to the NCAA's "coercion and threats behind the scenes" – i.e. possibly shutting the program down completely for a season or two. As such, "there was no ability for any of the parties filing the lawsuit to get any remediation to the grave, grave damage that has occurred from this consent decree."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: joepaterno; pedophillia; pennstate
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The family will sue. And they will lose.

And we will hate Joe Paterno all the more.

1 posted on 05/30/2013 12:34:33 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

These people need to accept that Papa Joe failed the test of character and get over it.


2 posted on 05/30/2013 12:37:28 PM PDT by henkster (I have one more cow than my neighbor. I am a kulak.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

And homosexuality is what started this whole mess...


3 posted on 05/30/2013 12:40:17 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
The family will sue. And they will lose.

I'd like to think so. Only it seems to me that the NCAA is something like 0-for-168 in major litigation.


4 posted on 05/30/2013 12:41:54 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Cowboy Bob

No, a monster desire to dominate others and preying on small children started this thing.

By your twisted logic, heterosexual rape should not exist, because it’s only homosexuality that causes people to perform depraved acts.

The more I hang around here, the less I feel comfortable.


5 posted on 05/30/2013 12:44:15 PM PDT by SengirV
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To: SengirV

“The more I hang around here, the less I feel comfortable.” Then LEAVE!


6 posted on 05/30/2013 12:47:24 PM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: henkster
Joe Pa's failure was working within the system and the entire Freeh Report pretty much papers over the gay friendly atmosphere which was constructed at Penn State (and most other public universities) over the years.

Yes, Paterno's legacy was tarnished, but he is hardly a star player in this fiasco. Not even close.

Without Graham Spainer, his sexology professor wife and the rest of the PC crowd making it a capital offense to even discuss, much less prevent the aberrant behavior of homosexuals, Sandusky could not have operated as freely as he did for as long as he did. The PC crowd was only too happy to make Paterno the fall guy to take the heat off them. The NCAA was only too happy to play along.

7 posted on 05/30/2013 12:47:37 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Responsibility2nd; ntnychik; okie01; dfwgator; BluesDuke; doug from upland; Kenny Bunk; henkster; ..
"The university is not a party to any lawsuit against the NCAA that may be filed by the Paterno family," the school said in a statement. "Penn State remains committed to full compliance with the consent decree and the athletics integrity agreement. We look forward to continuing to work with Sen. George Mitchell and recognize the important role that intercollegiate athletics provides for our student athletes and the wider university community."

Can someone please explain how Mitchell got involved in this mess? For someone his age, he seems to be in a lot of places.

8 posted on 05/30/2013 12:57:12 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: henkster
I still think Paterno got a raw deal....his sin was one of being an elderly old fashioned man who believed the best in people and couldn't imagine the worse......I'm pretty sure the underlings sugar coated whatever Sandusky was doing as perfectly innocent...

the NCAA is a politically left leaning organization growing worse as the years go by....they pick and choose their winners just like they're letting Oregon have a multimillionaire/billionaire booster practically run the entire athletic dept there and nothing is said or done....or why Cam Newton can get away with what he did.....

Penn state was old school....with a new president and underlings that were trying to make it "modern"....they pushed out the female BB coach for saying she didn't want gay bb players....

9 posted on 05/30/2013 12:58:22 PM PDT by cherry
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To: SengirV

Don’t let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.


10 posted on 05/30/2013 1:02:40 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: US Navy Vet; Resolute Conservative

You all can’t address the obvious logical flaw I pointed out?


11 posted on 05/30/2013 1:05:45 PM PDT by SengirV
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To: cherry

First, I have no love for the NCAA. That they are a left-leaning organization is beyond question; they get their leadership from academia, the home of the far left. And they are also highly political, being very selective of who they target and who they do not. But as with all leftists, they are hypocrites. Big schools with big names and big money get a pass, little schools are shot like chipmunks.

But I digress. I don’t think Paterno got a raw deal so much as he was an old man who had been left on the job as a figurehead for far too long. He should have retired gracefully long before this story blew up. But he was in pursuit of a record, and so was his university. In so doing, he sold his soul. The family filing suit just proves that they don’t care about the institution or the victims of the monster Sandusky, they only care about that record that they thought they had, and has been taken from them.

I put all the blame for the crimes on Sandusky. But by looking the other way when they should have spoken out, the university and Paterno got what they deserved. You can’t tell me Joe Pa didn’t know. He knew, and that’s why Sandusky “retired.” All of college football knew; that’s why Sandusky never got mentioned at all when a coaching vacancy came up. Everyone knew and tried to brush it under the rug. But it couldn’t be hidden forever and eventually blew up in their faces.


12 posted on 05/30/2013 1:09:09 PM PDT by henkster (I have one more cow than my neighbor. I am a kulak.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
The Paterno family are gluttons for punishment.

The imaginary construct of Joe Paterno as a stern but fatherly saint is now gone.

He has been revealed for what he was: a tin-pot dictator and a monster of ego who wrapped himself in Penn State colors.

They cannot turn back the clock.

13 posted on 05/30/2013 1:17:20 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: SengirV
Uh...he said no such thing. He is talking about one case. This one. In this case you have a man (Sandusky) preying on boys, ie. homosexualy desires and acts.

Nothing was said about homosexuality being the only thing that causes depraved acts. That's a judgement and conclusion about what he said that you and you alone drew...as if thought you have some kind of complex.

If that being pointed out to you makes you uncomfortable...sorry, deal with it. It is precisely what happened.

14 posted on 05/30/2013 1:19:23 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: cherry

What did Cam Newton get away with may I ask?


15 posted on 05/30/2013 1:22:25 PM PDT by jmranchman (Im your huckleberry.....Thats just my game....)
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To: henkster
They knew. And they let it go on. Sandusky quit as coach...but they still allowed him to maintain the trappings through which he perpetrated his perverted, sick crimes.

From the younger assistant coach who saw with his own eyes what was Sandusky was doing to the one kid, and did nothing to stop what he saw occurring...instead had to go talk to his Dad about it and then tell the coach. To Paterno, who had to know what was going on and thought he had handled it with getting Sandusky to retire...but saw that blow up in his face and simply reported to the University what he was told rather than call the police like any sain individual would do.

It was a sick environment in which sick, perverted things were happening and people were turning the other eye to it in order to not tarnish a UNiversity that was already hopelessly tarnished.

IMHO, Paterno got what he deserved...as sad as it was and as much respect as I once had for him up to finding out about this. Turns out that respect was an illusion, perpetrated by a system that was seeking a "record," as it turns out, at any cost.

And now the family are trying to hold on to that illusion...and doing so in an unsightly and unbecoming way...when they should be doing all they can to help every victim of this tragedy.

16 posted on 05/30/2013 1:29:55 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: SengirV

Get a better chair.


17 posted on 05/30/2013 1:31:40 PM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
... former FBI head Louis Freeh ...

Or as G.Gordon Liddy called him: "Hapless" Louis Freeh.

18 posted on 05/30/2013 1:36:42 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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<>They knew. And they let it go on. Sandusky quit as coach...but they still allowed him to maintain the trappings through which he perpetrated his perverted, sick crimes.<>

Who is “they”???

Paterno had nothing to do with his retirement arrangements and did not want him bringing his kids to the football facilities. Freeh even documents that in his report. It is indisputable.

And yet during this time this same Louis Freeh was raising funds for Sandusky’s charity year after year.

Bombshell: MBNA bank while Freeh was co-chair and general counsel was major corporate sponsor of Jerry Sandusky and Second Mile.

http://www.tominpaine.blogspot.com/2012/09/bombshell-mbna-bank-while-freeh-was-co.html

Yeppers — that’s right — Louis Freeh WAS one of the “they”.


19 posted on 05/30/2013 2:01:46 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: SengirV

By your logic, then girls would have been involved but they were not. Men preying on boys is homo action and that is what started the mess.


20 posted on 05/30/2013 2:39:13 PM PDT by MamaB
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