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Priest cuts ties to Boy Scouts over gay scout decision (WA)
KING 5 News (Seattle) ^ | 5/28/2013

Posted on 05/29/2013 6:26:28 AM PDT by llevrok

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Fr. Lappe's Response to New Boy Scouts

Written by Father Derek Lappe

Sunday, 26 May 2013 12:53

May 26th, 2013
Solemnity of the Most Holy Trinity

Dear Parishioners of Our Lady Star of the Sea,

Although I am not at all surprised, I am certainly disappointed in the recent decision of the Boy Scouts of America to change their membership policy. The incredible legacy of the Boy Scouts of America and the amount of good they have done for so many years, creates a particular sadness that they would compromise the good of their mission and the good of the boys they serve for the sake of political correctness.

The exact policy change is this: “to remove the restriction denying membership to youth on the basis of sexual orientation alone.” That is to say that those young men aged 10 to 18 who identify themselves as “gay” or “homosexual” will not be excluded from scouting based on the fact of that self-identification.

I do not feel that it is possible for us to live out, and to teach, the authentic truth about human sexuality within the confines of the Boy Scout’s new policy and so I would like to give an explanation as to why it will be necessary for our parish to part ways with the New Boy Scouts.

For many years we have seen headlines that proclaim a genetic origin for homosexuality. Various groups in concert with a willing media have tried to convince people that being “gay” is a genetically defined trait, as if being sexually attracted to a person of the same sex is no different an expression of DNA than one’s height or the color of one’s skin. The reality however, is that there is nothing scientific or logical in such a position.

The genesis of same-sex attraction is much more complicated. As the Catholic Medical Association pointed out in their document, Homosexuality and Hope (November, 2000):

“Individuals experience same-sex attractions for different reasons. While there are similarities in the patterns of development, each individual has a unique, personal history. In the histories of persons who experience same-sex attraction, one frequently finds one or more of the following:

•Alienation from the father in early childhood, because the father was perceived as hostile or distant, violent or alcoholic, (Apperson 1968 ; Bene 1965 ; Bieber 1962 ; Fisher 1996 ; Pillard 1988 ; Sipova 1983 )

•Mother was overprotective (boys), (Bieber, T. 1971 ; Bieber 1962 ; Snortum 1969 )

•Mother was needy and demanding (boys), (Fitzgibbons 1999 )

•Mother emotionally unavailable (girls), (Bradley 1997 ; Eisenbud 1982 )

•Parents failed to encourage same-sex identification, (Zucker 1995 )

•Lack of rough and tumble play (boys), (Friedman 1980 ; Hadden 1967a )

•Failure to identify with same/sex peers, (Hockenberry 1987 ; Whitman 1977 )

•Dislike of team sports (boys), (Thompson 1973 )

•Lack of hand/eye coordination and resultant teasing by peers (boys), (Bailey 1993 ; Fitzgibbons 1999 ; Newman 1976 )

•Sexual abuse or rape, (Beitchman 1991 ; Bradley 1997 ; Engel 1981 ; Finkelhor 1984; Gundlach 1967 )

•Social phobia or extreme shyness, (Golwyn 1993 )

•Parental loss through death or divorce, (Zucker 1995)

•Separation from parent during critical developmental stages. (Zucker 1995)

Through no fault of their own, through the breakdown of families, through the failures of society at large young people can find themselves struggling with same-sex attraction. The question is, what is the best way to help them? How do we offer hope and healing?

The New Boy Scouts are basically offering a program of ratifying a label of “gay”, which the young man has placed on himself, and which so many elements of society also are happy to place on him.

A survey was done to poll the scouting community as to their opinions concerning the possibility of a policy change, following is one of the questions (the questions were extremely leading, as you can see):

Tom started in the program as a Tiger Cub, and finished every requirement for the Eagle Scout Award at 16 years of age. At his board of review Tom reveals that he is gay. Is it acceptable or unacceptable for the review board to deny his Eagle Scout award based on that admission?"

Pretty obvious what answer they are looking for.

Based on the more scientific and research backed approach of the Catholic Medical Association here would be a series of more pointed questions which would actually get to the issues that could lead to hope and healing for the boy, rather than imprisoning him in that self-identification for the sake of political correctness:

Tom’s father was an alcoholic; he abandoned the family when Tom was five. To compensate, Tom’s mother was overprotective and began to depend upon Tom even from a very young age. Because of this, Tom never got to play with other boys his age and never played sports. Tom was molested by one of his mother’s boyfriends. Since the age of 12 Tom has been confused about his sexual desires and fantasies and thinks he might be gay. Is all of this acceptable? Should we all tell Tom that this is normal? Should we affirm that this 16 year old boy is, in fact, “gay”?

Or should we not have the courage and the love to stand up and say this is a tragedy, an all too common heartbreaking disaster? Should we not admit that it is sad and wrong from beginning to end– and that we are going to do everything we can to help kids like Tom?

Our Lady Star of the Sea parish and our youth programs are willing to accept Tom as a casualty in the disaster that is so often the modern family. We are willing to accept him as confused, as unsure of his masculinity, as having had a hard life, as a kid who needs help, compassion, love, mentoring, guidance – and most importantly we are willing to share the love and healing of Jesus Christ with him. But I’m not willing to put the definitive label “gay” on him.

The CMA document continues with some very important points, which guide my thinking on this issue:

“While a number of studies have shown that children who have been sexually abused, children exhibiting the symptoms of GID (gender identification disorder), and boys with chronic juvenile unmasculinity are at risk for same-sex attractions in adolescence and adulthood, it is important to note that a significant percentage of these children do not become homosexually active as adults. (Green 1985 ; Bradley 1998)

For some, negative childhood experiences are overcome by later positive interactions. Some make a conscious decision to turn away from temptation. The presence and the power of God's grace, while not always measurable, cannot be discounted as a factor in helping an at-risk individual turn away from same-sex attraction. The labeling of an adolescent, or worse a child, as unchangeably "homosexual" does the individual a grave disservice. Such adolescents or children can, with appropriate, positive intervention, be given proper guidance to deal with early emotional traumas.”

So what are we going to do?

Our parish cannot be involved with a group that has decided to ratify or approve the self-identification of a 10-18 year old boy as “gay” or “homosexual”. To me it is cruel, and abusive and absolutely contrary to the Gospel to in any way confirm a teenager in the confusion of same-sex attraction, which is what the New Boy Scout policy will do.

And so, we are going to redouble our efforts to create a community that is supportive of happy, healthy, holy marriages. In our marriage preparation we are going to try to get women to stop marrying such loser men who will never be capable of being good dads and husbands, and vice versa. We are going to teach the full truth of human sexuality – especially the truth about contraception as the greatest destroyer of marriage and family life.

We are going to continue to preach the truth from natural law and Sacred Scripture that kids should have a mom and a dad who love each other and who love them – that kids do best in that environment. But we are also going to try to help the great number of families, who, through no fault of their own, or through past mistakes find themselves in difficult situations and in less than optimal circumstances – and we are going to do our best to help them and to provide whatever we can for them to be as successful as possible. We are going to try to provide family activities for moms and dads, single parents, divorced parents, grandparents raising their grandkids – really for anyone who is striving to live the Catholic faith in the mixed up mess of a modern world that we live in.

We are going to provide youth activities for any and all youth. And in our programs we will have strong mentors, good examples of Christian men and women; we will teach the Gospel; we will challenge kids to live the virtues; we will teach the truth in a very confused world; and we will invite our youth into a friendship with Jesus Christ that can heal any past hurts. Our current Fraternus and Fidelis programs are well equipped to help cultivate authentically masculine and feminine identities. We will also develop new programs to help replace what we will be losing from the legacy of Scouting.

I am very aware that my objection to the change in the New Boy Scouts is increasingly considered bigoted and backward. I know that there are many good people within the Catholic Church who will disagree with me. I am aware that in many people’s minds “homosexual” identity is the new civil-rights issue and that there has been huge swing in public opinion on this issue over the past few years.

But I won’t put public opinion ahead of the good of the boys and young men in my parish, and I won’t pretend that polls can trump the truths about sexuality and humanity that are revealed to us, first of all by natural law, and confirmed in Sacred Scripture and the teaching of the Catholic Church.

In Christ,

Fr. Derek Lappe
Pastor of Our Lady Star of the Sea

41 posted on 05/29/2013 8:12:26 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: llevrok

Just the beginning...

http://exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2013/05/300-boy-scout-families-lose-sponsor.html


42 posted on 05/29/2013 8:15:42 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Venturer

71% of the Chartered Organizations were against it, yet 60% of the 1400 delegates were for it.

The Chartered Orgs, like the Catholic Church, LDS, etc, own Scouting. They fund it, they assume the legal risk for the Troops and Packs. National owns the logo, the curriculum, etc.

This isn’t over. The exodus will be epic.

My fear is this - Baden Powell’s vision had NOTHING to do with religion. He founded a WORLD movement across creeds. His experience in war was that across enemy lines there was common ground IF your enemy had the humility to recognize that there was a supreme being - someone greater than themselves.

Where this was NOT the case, there really could be no shared set of values.

The idea of a ‘Christian’ Boy Scouts is a betrayal of his original vision. The biggest reason this movement worked as well as it did is that it avoided BOTH politics AND religion for 100 years.

The current clown car in charge at national failed on this point.

They could have just said that there was insufficient solid scientific and social information available to make a change at this time and kept on keeping on. They would have had less money, but they would have kept Baden Powell’s movement alive.

I was on an outing when I got a call from another church with a Pack and a Troop that is going to bug out for a Christian version of this.

Frankly, its a dumb idea. Not the leaving part, the ‘Christian Scouts Only’ part.

Did you know that 30% of scouts attend church for the first time through some sort of scout event? Scouts introduce kids to the idea of God, and the role of faith in a life lived by a set of values.

This is what happens when an organization loses its testicular fortitude, and O’Sullivan’s law retains its perfect record.


43 posted on 05/29/2013 8:35:33 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: llevrok
Now, that shows leadership and gives hope to those who have a strong commitment to their faith. This new policy from the BSA is a signal this controversy will continue. By allowing the older boys (who claim of their sexual choice as a civil right) are planning to ask of becoming scout leaders in the future.
44 posted on 05/29/2013 8:35:49 AM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: A.A. Cunningham
Our parish cannot be involved with a group that has decided to ratify or approve the self-identification of a 10-18 year old boy as “gay” or “homosexual”.

To me it is cruel, and abusive and absolutely contrary to the Gospel to in any way confirm a teenager in the confusion of same-sex attraction, which is what the New Boy Scout policy will do.

The good Father is a wise man of principle and a credit and an asset to His Church.

I hope that he will be one among the multitude rather than a lone beacon. Looking at the world we've created, I doubt we have much time before we are Judged.

45 posted on 05/29/2013 8:40:26 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: llevrok

This top down decision may (should) cause the various area councils in the BSA may form break-a-way units.


46 posted on 05/29/2013 8:45:21 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Pollster1
I think his saying that "anyone ought to be able to be a scout" is correct. I'm sure that there have been "gay" boy scouts; the problem is the word "openly". Once they can "openly" be gay, then it becomes all about the "gayness".

If they want to join the BSA to be a Scout, fine -- if they want to be a "gay" Scout then there is a problem. Why, oh why, can't they just leave it alone. Why is everyone required to shout about their sexual preferences. The Scouts are not the ones who are preventing these boys from having the Scouting experience. It is the activsts who want to force their personal/political agenda onto the group. The BSA has accepted their overlords and now the people in the individual troops have to decide what to do. This priest has done that, and he is just the first.

47 posted on 05/29/2013 8:52:37 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: llevrok

“I think anyone ought to be able to be a scout,” he said.

Anyone? Thieves? Drug users? Drug dealers? No standards at all anymore?


48 posted on 05/29/2013 9:34:57 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: MestaMachine

“Soon to be known as the gsa.”

I believe that would be “GSA”.


49 posted on 05/29/2013 9:35:33 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: martinidon

The problem is risk management. No auto insurer is going to wrote anything but legally required minimum liability insurance for a habitual drunk. Abuse liability insurance is going to be a real devil to get from any non-suicidal insurance company that knows anything about the experience of the Catholic church with homosexual clergy.


50 posted on 05/29/2013 9:36:06 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: catnipman

Not if you’re me. Read my tagline.


51 posted on 05/29/2013 9:38:46 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: libstripper

agreed and one thing for sure, the Catholics have a lot deeper pockets than the Scouts. A couple of abuse/molesting claims and they are done!


52 posted on 05/29/2013 9:42:43 AM PDT by martinidon
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To: Pollster1
As for Scouts who are openly gay, no Scout should have a sex life, nor should a Scout celebrate conduct that violates worldwide traditions and taboos.

I do believe there is a difference from being "openly gay" and being sexually active. I was openly heterosexual for my childhood, but never had sex until I was married.

I object to the "openly gay" policy of the BSA, but because it encourages boys to think of themselves as gay, and forces other boys to deal with that in a group that is supposed to be non-sexual (the point of having an all-male group is to remove the sexual component so you can focus on other life lessons).

I totally agree that no scout should have a sex life, although apparently the BSA hasn't really enforced that either, in that nobody was prohibited from getting Eagle rank simply because they got a girl pregnant.

I don't think people are born gay, but I do think people ARE gay. And I think that people who are gay need to control that urge, and seek God's help in turning their sexual urges to the right purpose, just as heterosexuals need to control their urge for sex until they are married.

So I was not bothered by the scout's previous policy, which was basically "don't ask, don't tell". Sure, there were gay scouts, but they didn't announce they were gay, just as scouts don't have to announce what music they like, what political party they would affiliate with, or proseltyze for their particular religious beliefs.

There are already more "christian" organizations that do what you mention. Some are affiliated with specific churches, others more ecumenical.

53 posted on 05/29/2013 10:33:33 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: muawiyah
Remember, GAY MARRIAGE was invented by Mitt Romney!

Or the Easter bunny. Hard to keep those fantasies separated.

54 posted on 05/29/2013 10:35:12 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Ransomed

See, that is the problem. We already had adventure scouts, which was the BSA allowing girls into the organization, because they found that the older boys were losing interest because they wanted to be with girls.

Instead of fighting that battle, the BSA caved. They continue to cave to popular opinion. They have become more about attracting money than being a force for good.


55 posted on 05/29/2013 10:36:55 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I don’t think he is the first. And he won’t be the last. And this isn’t a catholic-protestant thing.


56 posted on 05/29/2013 10:37:28 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Mitt wasn't a good Republican when he was governor of Massachusetts. In fact, he wasn't even a good RINO. He should have waited on legislative action but he didn't.

That, BTW, is no Paas Haas.

57 posted on 05/29/2013 10:42:06 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: RinaseaofDs

It’s a damned shame, but right now faggots are on a roll;.

Most families have at last one and they feel duty bound to accept the mental illness of their children.

Too bad they have to ruin everything they touch.


58 posted on 05/29/2013 11:21:14 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
38 ... Where are the conservative Protestant clergy on this issue? ...

So far, 4 Protestant denominations have spoken out against the BSA decision ...

1. Southern Baptist Convention
2. Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod
3. Assembly of God
4. Presbyterian Church in America

Supporters of BSA's decision are ...

1. Mormon
2. Episcopal Church
3. Evangelical Church in America
4. Presbyterian Church - USA
5. United Church of Christ
6. Unitarian Universalists

The Disciples of Christ/Christian Church is in communion with the UCC, so it seems reasonable they will support the decision.

Keep you eye on the 2 below - they have tentatively indicated they will go along with the decision, but the potential for fireworks is very real before 1/01/2014 ...

1. Catholic Church
2. Methodist Church

59 posted on 05/29/2013 12:18:29 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: llevrok; Chode

Well they can always go to the mormon church since they sold out on this


60 posted on 05/29/2013 2:00:19 PM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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