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R.I.P, Boy Scouts of America
Townhall ^ | 05/27/2013 | Matt Barber

Posted on 05/27/2013 7:51:13 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

“What good is it for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul?” (Mark 8:36)

It’s a sad day for both Scouting and for freedom. Indeed, it’s a sad day for America. The century-old Boy Scouts of America (BSA) – created in 1910 to “prepare young people to make ethical and moral choices over their lifetimes” – has betrayed its own constituency, mission, oath and law.

Last Thursday, approximately 1,400 adult BSA delegates from around the country gathered in Texas and decided, in a disgracefully lopsided vote, to welcome into its ranks, “open and avowed” homosexuality (boy-on-boy sexual attraction and behavior), thereby disavowing the “morally straight” Scout Oath its members are sworn to uphold.

They voted unwisely.

History will reflect that on this day the BSA turned from morally straight to immorally bent – that this once great organization – founded on “honor,” “reverence” and biblical morality – was crushed beneath the worldly weight of pagan idolatry.

Whereas, for over a century, millions of boys have raised their right hands, swearing “on my honor” to “do my duty to God and my country” – on this day, hundreds of adult delegates likewise raised their right hands, shook their fists at God and flipped their middle fingers at both the boys they serve and the parents who trusted them.

While endeavoring to “gain the world,” this once honorable institution has forfeited its soul.

Scripture admonishes: “The wages of sin is death.” (Rom. 6:23). This was a catastrophic miscalculation. It was sin, and, tragically, through this sin, the BSA has now effectively sealed its own fate. It has set into motion its own demise.

Even by its own estimates, BSA leadership admits that the decision will likely result in a mass exodus from Scouting. They anticipate that as many as 400,000 Scouts and Scouters will leave the organization (acceptable casualties in the war on morality, I guess). Still, as devastating as this number is, it too represents a gross miscalculation.

Consider, for instance, that when Canada’s version of the Boy Scouts voted in 1998 to welcome open homosexuality, its membership rolls plummeted by over half in just five years, forcing camp closures, staff layoffs and huge budget cuts. Looking north of the border for clues, then, we can expect that, with current membership at around 2.6 million, it’s more likely that roughly 1.5 million Boy Scouts and troop masters will walk.

Then again, we’re talking about “progressive” Canada. This is the good ol’ USA. With over 61 percent of Scouts, Scouters and parents opposing the homosexualization of Boy Scouts, and over 70 percent of U.S. Scout groups sponsored by churches and religious organizations, it’s not unreasonable to expect that defections will even exceed this estimate.

In short, BSA’s betrayal may well result in near-total ruin. The wages of sin is death.

Here’s the reality: Reality has not changed. Objective truth did not suddenly and miraculously reverse itself on May 23, 2013. As BSA has always acknowledged (until Thursday), homosexual behavior remains empirically disordered and immoral. The only thing that has changed is politics.

Ultimately, this decision had nothing to do with “tolerance” or “inclusivity.” Neither did it concern the best interests of the boys who make up Boy Scouting. Instead, this decision was rooted in pure evil. It had everything to do with money. “For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs” (1 Timothy 6:10).

And wandered from the faith they have.

Now come the many griefs.

Really, three things drove this decision: Fear, greed and politics. A number of high-dollar corporate donors threatened to pull funding from BSA if they maintained the existing policy on sexual morality. Additionally, a number of extremist pressure groups, aided by a sympathetic left-wing media, brought tremendous pressure to bear.

But the pressure’s not going away. The BSA made a critical error in judgment. It showed weakness. This has only whipped these radicals into a heightened frenzy. Within moments of the “gay” announcement, Nancy Pelosi called the move “an important first step.” The Human Rights Campaign demanded “the new policy doesn’t go far enough,” and Mother Jones, a liberal online publication, posted an article titled, “Boy Scouts: You Can Be Gay Until You’re 18.”

Sin is never satisfied. The homofascist thirst for absolute affirmation is unquenchable.

What’s the next step? Activists now demand that adult men who desire sex with other males (“gay” scout masters) be allowed to take your sons camping overnight. Soon they’ll be insisting that “transgender boys” (girls who wish they were boys) be allowed to join as well.

What a camping trip. Imagine the pup tent. Your son and Jimmy – who’s got a crush on him – along with Billy and Billy’s boyfriend Bobby, all snuggly warm in the middle of nowhere. But make room for Sammy (formerly Suzie) and Sammy’s boyfriend Gary (formerly Gertrude).

Don’t forget to hang the disco ball.

And “always be prepared.”

You think there won’t be new membership stagnation? Who wants to sign their boy up for the “Gay Scouts”? What’s a kid gotta to do to earn his “tolerance badge”? Parents, you might want to get out while the gettin’s good. As one Eagle Scout told me, “I’m not leaving the Boy Scouts, the Boy Scouts left me.”

It’s only a matter of time until BSA caves on these demands as well. They’ll admit “gay” men and girls soon. They have no choice. Now that they’ve opened the door, they’ve waived the only legal defense they once had: religious and moral conviction.

But here’s the good news. I and dozens more will be convening for a coalition meeting of pro-family leaders next month in Louisville, Ky., to discuss the creation of a moral alternative to the Boy Scouts. Nature abhors a vacuum. We intend to fill it.

Still, until then, please join me as we mourn the loss of this once honorable organization. The Boy Scouts of America: Born Feb. 8, 1910 – Died May 23, 2013.

May it rest in peace.


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1 posted on 05/27/2013 7:51:13 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Check out this picture of the French protesting gay marriage. They know the direction this is headed.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3024159/posts


2 posted on 05/27/2013 7:53:59 AM PDT by stanne (en short on them especialcsly in today's world of politi)
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To: SeekAndFind

Interestingly enough, this may be an RIP for the boy scouts.

I local sheriff where I live is cancelling their charter in our area due to this decision being a violation of state laws regarding sodomy.


3 posted on 05/27/2013 7:54:34 AM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: SeekAndFind

Next step for the BSA will be to allow gay scout leaders. I wonder how many parents will take their kids out of scouting.


4 posted on 05/27/2013 7:55:08 AM PDT by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: SeekAndFind; red irish; fastrock; NorthernCrunchyCon; UMCRevMom@aol.com; Finatic; fellowpatriot; ...
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5 posted on 05/27/2013 7:55:55 AM PDT by narses
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To: SeekAndFind

Why would you send your son out camping with other boys that are overtly sexual and homosexual? Obviously Gays got their way, and obviously it will destroy the Boy Scouts.

But the Homosexuals are ok with that. They never liked the principles of Scouting anyway. They just hated being held accountible for their actions.

It is a small example of society in general. Every society that tolerated Homosexuality openly, destructs and the dust of that civilization blows in the wind.

This is true of America too. But the Homosexuals are ok with that. They never liked the principles of America either. What ever price you pay is worth it, as long as they get their way.


6 posted on 05/27/2013 7:59:19 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Gay" is the new bubble, sorta like a red algae bloom.

The BSA will soon be floating belly up.

7 posted on 05/27/2013 8:01:47 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I expect to get as far with this suggestion as I do with my suggestion to pull your kids out of public indoctrination centers but I’ll say it anyway. It’s time to pull your boys out of Boy Scouts.


8 posted on 05/27/2013 8:02:15 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: SeekAndFind

The once proud Boy Scouts of America has been highjacked by NAMBLA (the North American Man Boy Love Assoc). Keep your kids away!


9 posted on 05/27/2013 8:02:21 AM PDT by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Last Thursday, approximately 1,400 adult BSA delegates from around the country gathered in Texas and decided, in a disgracefully lopsided vote”

How about one of these stories include the details of the vote. Is it a secret or something? Like is 1400 BSA delegates all of them that could vote in the US, or some of them or what? Or what was the exact vote total? One story said ‘60%+’ but I didn’t see anything more about it. You would think you would have seen something from somebody that voted against it if nothing else.

Freegards


10 posted on 05/27/2013 8:02:51 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: SeekAndFind
"will be convening for a coalition meeting of pro-family leaders next month in Louisville, Ky., to discuss the creation of a moral alternative to the Boy Scouts. Nature abhors a vacuum. We intend to fill it. "

That didn't take long. Didn't really think it would.

If one organization can get the various churches behind it. They could surplant the BSA in a short amount of time.

11 posted on 05/27/2013 8:05:15 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: duckman
Yes...the Left wants to legalize pedophilia...those opposed will be marginalized and called out in the media...as being unmodern, and "Christianist". Soon they will be moving on the churches. The stuff the IRS was doing is just the beginning. The media is key...keep watching as ABCBSNBCNN lead the charge.
12 posted on 05/27/2013 8:08:37 AM PDT by kjo (+)
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To: SeekAndFind

From now on they should be referred to as the Gay Scouts.


13 posted on 05/27/2013 8:09:17 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (It is the deviants who are the bullies.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sad day for what was a classic American institution.


14 posted on 05/27/2013 8:11:50 AM PDT by swampthang77
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To: Ransomed

I’m sure it’s as secret as the harassments of good people by the alphabet agencies including the tax people and for the same reasons.

BSA has been hijacked. It cannot recover while its former leaders continue to cower.

WE out here who have nothing to do with BSA due to gender, find that the lack of successful former BS and eagle scouts fighting against this speaks to a lack of courage and conviction, actually.

THis is a hugely demoralizing move in our country. Where are these politically correct people?


15 posted on 05/27/2013 8:12:04 AM PDT by stanne (en short on them especialcsly in today's world of politi)
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To: SeekAndFind

http://www.youngminutemen.com/


16 posted on 05/27/2013 8:13:51 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('He frustrates the devices of the crafty, so that they cannot carry out their plans.' -- Job 5:12)
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To: SeekAndFind

With 3 Eagles and 1 Life Scout sons and 1 Eagle grandson along with working to assist their Scoutmasters over the years, I am amazed at the shortsighted decision made on this issue.

What a great loss!


17 posted on 05/27/2013 8:16:03 AM PDT by jennings2004 (:(()
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To: swampthang77; E. Pluribus Unum

There is an alternative for Devout Christian families:

THE CHRISTIAN SERVICE BRIGADE.

see here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Service_Brigade

and here:

http://csbministries.org/


18 posted on 05/27/2013 8:16:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: EternalVigilance

RE: http://www.youngminutemen.com/

Good group.

Here’s another for devout Christian families:

http://csbministries.org/


19 posted on 05/27/2013 8:17:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The homosexuals will now have their own homosexual boys’ organization, without having to finance it. The shameful sell-out by the BSA brass shows that they are not trustworthy enough to be in charge of the training of young men.

Homosexuals are like the cowbird, that throws another bird’s eggs out of the nest and lays its own eggs in the vandalized nest. The original owner of the nest then returns and hatches the next generation of marauding cowbirds.

Unless those who espouse traditional Christian values stand up now and organize their own group, the future is bleak.


20 posted on 05/27/2013 8:19:09 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: SeekAndFind

Excellent. The more the merrier. Let’s see what works.


21 posted on 05/27/2013 8:19:23 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('He frustrates the devices of the crafty, so that they cannot carry out their plans.' -- Job 5:12)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Come out from among them.”-St. Paul. Sadly, the parents of normal healthy boys must forbid the youths to join Scouting.


22 posted on 05/27/2013 8:20:05 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: txrefugee

Great analogy.


23 posted on 05/27/2013 8:20:10 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('He frustrates the devices of the crafty, so that they cannot carry out their plans.' -- Job 5:12)
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To: stanne

Well the thing to me is that “1400 delegates” doesn’t tell anyone anything. If that is close to all of them it tells us one thing, if it is 1/10th of the possible voters it tells us another. Also I would like to know what areas of the country sent the most delegates and so on.

So far the exact details of the vote haven’t been too easy to find, at least as far as I can see.

Freegards


24 posted on 05/27/2013 8:20:56 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: SeekAndFind

Talked to a parent of a Boy Scout this weekend. He did not touch this topic and indicated that his son would continue with Scouts. I wonder if a lot of people on the local level will just assume that this will not affect their little troop, which is filled with people they already know.


25 posted on 05/27/2013 8:24:45 AM PDT by married21
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To: duckman

It’s well on its way to becoming the NAMBLA Scouts of America.


26 posted on 05/27/2013 8:29:12 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SeekAndFind
Last Thursday, approximately 1,400 adult BSA delegates from around the country gathered in Texas and decided, in a disgracefully lopsided vote, to welcome into its ranks, “open and avowed” homosexuality (boy-on-boy sexual attraction and behavior), thereby disavowing the “morally straight” Scout Oath its members are sworn to uphold.

Given that the Boy Scouts of America is a private organization, will those who voted in favor of gay scouts hold or even admit any liability should the incidence of sexual abuse increase as a result of their action?

27 posted on 05/27/2013 8:31:06 AM PDT by olezip (Time obliterates the fictions of opinion and confirms the decisions of nature. ~ Cicero)
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To: married21
"Talked to a parent of a Boy Scout this weekend. He did not touch this topic and indicated that his son would continue with Scouts. I wonder if a lot of people on the local level will just assume that this will not affect their little troop, which is filled with people they already know."

And when something happens to their son, what will they say? Willful blindness.

28 posted on 05/27/2013 8:31:20 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: American in Israel

Exactly right. The homo’s objective has always been to destroy Godly institutions.


29 posted on 05/27/2013 8:31:41 AM PDT by Josa
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To: SeekAndFind

There are a couple of things that could occur.

One would be that the Boy Scout troops some how recall or kick out all of the national board and nullify this vote that was taken. How they can accomplish that I don’t know.

Or...

There will be a mass exodus of troops and individual members from the Gay Scouts resulting something similar to the the organization in Canada. Scout masters will be allowed to be openly homosexual. There may even be a merger with the Gay Scouts and the Girl Scouts.

In the mean time one or more alternative, God-based, conservative scouting organizations will be created. Hopefully those that exited the Gay Scouts will create a single competing organization to them.

Then will come the massive lawsuits from all the pederasty committed by the homosexuals similar to what we saw with the Catholic Church scandal. This will result in a collapse of the organization and its assets sold.


30 posted on 05/27/2013 8:34:28 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I was a Boy Scout in the 1970s and put my sons through the program through the 1990s. Unfortunately, I cannot recommend the Boy Scouts to my grandsons.

Personally I could not care less about the sexual preferences and proclivities of grown adults. But these are kids. To sexualize an organization for kids is inexcusable. Now every man stepping up to be a Boy Scout leader is going to be under suspicion. Is he really in this to help out the kids or is he a closet pedophile looking for his next victims?

Nothing good can come of this for the BSA.

31 posted on 05/27/2013 8:34:43 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: married21

I believe a small number of boys in scouting will continue; especially the ones close to Eagle Scout who have worked hard towards that goal. The real drop off will be in the younger scouts where parents will find alternatives.

Also, as boys get older they tend to drop out of scouting anyway. I suspect parents who would have previously encouraged them to continue will just allow the boys to leave scouting with no protest.


32 posted on 05/27/2013 8:35:30 AM PDT by Josa
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To: Ransomed

anyone doing any real research on this will be doing something not only necessary and possibly revelationary to the situation as pertinent and important as all the other revelations coming out in these same weeks, and I am not talking about the news from the tornadoes, But will be doing the simple investigatory work that has not been but needs to be done on this horrible, intentionally demoralizing move against our most important men to boys formative group 100 plus years old.

How can the adult BSA allow this. WHat is the use of eagle scout in real life? That’s what people are asking.


33 posted on 05/27/2013 8:36:44 AM PDT by stanne
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To: SeekAndFind

This vote is by no means the end goal. The gay mafia wants to turn the Boy Scouts into a NAMBLA recruiting and training organization - next move is to change Scout Leadership membership. It is no different than Gay Marriage - only the first step into total perversion of society.


34 posted on 05/27/2013 8:37:32 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Paladin2

Maybe they could rename it The ChickenHawks ?


35 posted on 05/27/2013 8:37:43 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Josa

They have been on the warpath to destroying as many of the God-oriented, hetero male-based pillars of society for about 100 years.


36 posted on 05/27/2013 8:39:59 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

RE: There may even be a merger with the Gay Scouts and the Girl Scouts.

Gay Scouts? Does this thing exist at all?


37 posted on 05/27/2013 8:46:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
The homofascist thirst for absolute affirmation is unquenchable

True words that sum up what is actually going on here. They don't care about the boys; they certainly don't care about the organization. This is, and always has been, about celebrating their lifestyle.

I love the fact that the voting members knew that there would be a great loss in membership; but, they did it anyway.

38 posted on 05/27/2013 8:46:41 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: duckman
Next step for the BSA will be to allow gay scout leaders

Of course it will be, and the reason will be that the "gay" scouts need "role models".

39 posted on 05/27/2013 8:48:16 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: SeekAndFind

One can be sure that the liberal media which is most major media will declare such jeremiads overblown, but I think it is apropos to mourn the BSA being thus affected.

On other media I have seen allegations that the spiritual forefather of BSA, Lord Baden-Powell, had same sex attraction leanings, but it’s never been proved and it might only be ugly lies. But the organization was understandably a target for these demons from the word go. Male homosexuality is a demon driven twisting of the spirituality that makes men men, filling up their sense of masculine self from idols comprised of other men’s bodies rather than from the Father of Lights. If Baden-Powell had been thus affected, perhaps the establishment of Scouting is how he sought to make amends before the Lord, and if it was, it worked well for over a hundred years. It is our own soft society which is to blame for letting the BSA be vitiated today.


40 posted on 05/27/2013 8:49:27 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: SeekAndFind
i quit giving money to the United Way when i could no longer designate my contribution to the BSA and gave directly to the BSA, now i don't have to worry about that anymore...

i'm done

41 posted on 05/27/2013 8:50:18 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Texas Eagle

As a former scout, I believe you may get a (lot) of support for your suggestion.

We need a competitor to stand forward.

I believe this is a huge opportunity. The boy scouts will now start relying on gays for their enrollment.

Their new competitor, will instead be where the boy scouts have been, since between their founding, and last week.

This was a massive miscalculation by the boy scouts, if there is a real competitor they will rise to the top on this.


42 posted on 05/27/2013 8:52:46 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: SeekAndFind
Might just as well throw Girl Scouts into the mix too and just have a single AllScouts® organization at this point.

Time for an all new Scout Law (sans God of course), transgender uniform options, progressive themed merit badges (could keep tracking and stalking I guess), etc.

43 posted on 05/27/2013 8:55:19 AM PDT by Bronzewound
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To: Chode

To be honest, I always thought the boy scouts was for the gay boys.


44 posted on 05/27/2013 8:55:30 AM PDT by skinndogNN
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To: SeekAndFind

Worth repeating:

“Sin is never satisfied.”

The destruction of the BSA was the goal of the homosexual activists. They do NOT want to be scouts. They just want to ruin it for straights. And in common with Democrats, any compromise just encourages them to want more, because sin is never satisfied.


45 posted on 05/27/2013 8:55:45 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Now it is.

Homosexuals control the Gay Scouts (formerly known as the BSA) and the lesbians control the Girl Scouts.

It would be perfect for them to merge since both feel the need to be fabulous instead of prepared!


46 posted on 05/27/2013 8:57:27 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: stanne

If the vote was really ‘lopsided’ and the delegates were proportionately representative of the BSA, then I reckon it isn’t a good sign at all. I mean it’s the boy scouts. I would think that most bothering with it at all would be tend to be on the fairly conservative side of things and have common sense, but maybe I’m wrong about that.

It seems to me it is reasonable to have concerns about 15-17 year old boys being in charge of younger kids of a gender that they are attracted to. It would be the same concern if the girl scouts allowed older boys to be in charge of younger girls. But since it involves gays, it’s like that argument isn’t even a factor or something.

Freegards


47 posted on 05/27/2013 8:57:45 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: SeekAndFind

Now that the sodomites have been let in, when will the transgenders and the practitioners of beastiality be let in?


48 posted on 05/27/2013 8:58:17 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: SeekAndFind
FWIW--

In the final years of Berlin's life, he grew reclusive. He had not had a hit song in decades. Rock music and performances by singer-songwriters had replaced the kind of music he had mastered. But even toward the end, he found comfort in knowing how many young people the royalties from "God Bless America" were helping. His belief was simple: Everyone, regardless of background or beginnings, should be given a chance to shine. After all, look what happened to him.

He died in 1989. The money will continue to go to Scout organizations as long as "God Bless America" is sung and played -- which is to say, as long as there is a United States of America.

Who walks away from $10 million?

Irving Berlin did. Happily and proudly.

Why?

The answer is as clear and direct as the second line in that song of his:

". . .land that I love. . . ."

49 posted on 05/27/2013 8:58:41 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar

RE: His belief was simple: Everyone, regardless of background or beginnings, should be given a chance to shine.

So, you’re saying that he also has gays joining the scouts in mind as long as “God Bless America” is played?


50 posted on 05/27/2013 9:00:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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