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Protesters across globe rally against Monsanto - GMO
Associates Press ^ | May 25, 2013

Posted on 05/26/2013 8:26:53 AM PDT by opentalk

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To: opentalk

Thank you, opentalk!

People need to be aware of all this.


101 posted on 05/26/2013 5:48:52 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

How much money do you have invested with these jerk offs?


102 posted on 05/26/2013 6:19:25 PM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: laplata
No, but I find myself on the other side from idiots.

It has something to do with the difference between science and feelings.

103 posted on 05/26/2013 7:46:51 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: dennisw
How much money do you have invested with these jerk offs?

I don't have any money invested with the unscientific idiots.

I don't have any in Monsanto, but I'm thinking of buying some.

104 posted on 05/26/2013 7:49:50 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: opentalk

Monsanto is not my/our friend. We should have the right to know what is in our food, where it came from, and whether it was genetically modified. Monsanto and Obama and the legislators it owns in both Parties do not want the public to have their food labeled and identified so that consumers are informed and with an open and free market.

I support the protesters. This country needs more protest and less acquiescence.


105 posted on 05/27/2013 6:05:06 AM PDT by apoliticalone (Banksters are coming for your retirement, pensions & property. But first they want your firearms)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

The corporatization of, and compromising the integrity of what should be honest and ethical government of the USA, by global (not USA) corporations wishing to destroy our national sovereignty to enhance their profits, is not now and never will be a conservative value. This represents one of the big threats to our republic.


106 posted on 05/27/2013 6:18:50 AM PDT by apoliticalone (When banksters want what you own they'll use eminent domain. But first they want your firearms.)
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To: apoliticalone
whether it was genetically modified.

What does genetically modified mean to you?

107 posted on 05/27/2013 6:32:02 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: opentalk
Check out the brands...

...see any names you recognize ??

108 posted on 05/27/2013 6:58:21 AM PDT by ptsal (E)
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To: apoliticalone
Agree, its about individual freedom to choose what we feed our families. They fear disclosure and transparency would result in the public not choosing GMO.

They continue to spread patents to other foods, plants...

Administration, meanwhile, pushing concern about the environment...Michelle Obamas health initiatives

109 posted on 05/27/2013 8:06:42 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Toddsterpatriot
What does GMO mean to me? It means we are eating food that has been modified to survive being sprayed with Round-Up. It is good for Monsanto's bottom line, but is a tolerance for Round-Up good for humans? It means we are the lab rats in an experiment in progress and that has never been proven. It means that scientists and farmers that oppose it are forced to accept it because of crooked politicians and judges.
110 posted on 05/27/2013 8:32:03 AM PDT by apoliticalone (When banksters want what you own they'll use eminent domain. But first they want your firearms.)
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To: apoliticalone
So GMO for higher yield is okay?

All the modifications done before Monsanto are okay?

111 posted on 05/27/2013 9:32:10 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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Monsanto: 'There is no need for,or value in testing the safety of GM foods in humans' (Jan 2012)
112 posted on 05/27/2013 10:27:27 AM PDT by opentalk
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...above link

-- There is a growing body of scientific evidence which proves that genetically-modified organisms (GMOs) are inherently different from natural organisms, including the way the body processes them, as well as how the immune system responds to them. But Monsanto, the largest purveyor of GMOs in the world, believes that GMOs are no different than natural organisms, and that GMO testing is both needless and valueless.

From Monsanto web site

… Why aren’t you running human clinical trials on GM crops?

Because existing food crops are recognized as safe, the logical starting point for safety assessment of a GM food is to ask “what’s different?”

Aspects of the GM crop which are the same as the non-GM counterpart do not require safety assessment. Safety assessment can then be appropriately focused on what is different about the GM crop. All GM crops are analyzed and compared to non-GM counterparts in order to determine whether they have similar concentrations of proteins, carbohydrates, fats, amino acids, fiber, vitamins and a variety of other components. Two crops which are alike in all respects are said to be “substantially equivalent.”

113 posted on 05/27/2013 10:43:43 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk
There is a growing body of scientific evidence which proves that genetically-modified organisms (GMOs) are inherently different from natural organisms

How are they different? Besides your feeling?

including the way the body processes them

It's called digestion. It works differently on GMO? How?

114 posted on 05/27/2013 11:21:57 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

All I want as a consumer is to have all the correct information to make an informed decision. When it comes to food I want it on the package.

When I go to a gas station and pay for 20 gallons of gas, we expect an accurate calibrated pump and the gasoline to be properly labeled with the correct octane.

When I go to a restaurant and order a drink I want it to be what was represented and what I ordered. Fox News had an article on NJ restaurants selling customers rubbing alcohol as top shelf booze.

We’re in an era of changing culture in America where ethics of people, politicians and business have moved to the back seat. Wall St and the Fed jacks the stock market up and down at their whim. I don’t trust Monsanto.

Surely you don’t oppose an honest and free market? By non-disclosure Monsanto obviously does.


115 posted on 05/27/2013 11:39:08 AM PDT by apoliticalone (When banksters want what you own they'll use eminent domain. But first they want your firearms.)
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To: apoliticalone
All I want as a consumer is to have all the correct information to make an informed decision. When it comes to food I want it on the package.

That is excellent!

You should pay as much as it takes to eat only food that is non-GMO.

What is your definition of GMO?

Surely you don’t oppose an honest and free market? By non-disclosure Monsanto obviously does.

Non-dislosure? I'm pretty sure they don't sell food to consumers. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

116 posted on 05/27/2013 12:08:59 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
From link...reference links

… Concerning the injection of foreign DNA into GM crops, Physicians and Scientists for Responsible Application of Science and Technology (PSRAST) have taken a more scientific approach by actually investigating how the body processes foreign DNA, which revealed that things are not as peachy as Monsanto claims they are. As can be expected, foreign DNA is not properly recognized by the body, and negatively stimulates the immune system in such a way as to cause disease-inducing inflammation

GMOs should be safety tested before they hit the market says AMA

... Studies in the scientific literature have suggested that genetic engineering could introduce new food allergens,increase the levels of known allergens,raise or lower nutrient levels and have adverse effects on the animals that eat such foods.”

New study: Monsanto's toxins kill human kidney cells

… A new study shows that low doses of Bt biopesticide CryA1b as well as the glyphosate herbicide, Roundup, kill human kidney cells. The Bt biopesticide conferring insect resistance and the glyphosate tolerance trait tied to the use of glyphosate herbicides account for almost all the GM crops grown worldwide

… These studies,along with the observation that Bt protein is present in the blood of pregnant women and their babies makes it an urgent matter for the health impacts of Bt proteins in GMO crops to be thoroughly investigated along with the known effects on the environment and non-target species [that is, in us].

Uncovered, the 'toxic' gene hiding in GM crops: Revelation throws new doubt over safety of foods

You Are What You Eat: Genetically Modified Foods Include “Information”

… According to recent research from China’s Nanjing University,when people eat rice,tiny sequences of microRNA from the plant-based food can survive the body’s digestive process and end up absorbed in human tissue where —and here’s the reason why we need to know about this study —plant microRNA may actually affect how our cells behave and function. In the study,Exogenous plant MIR168a specifically targets mammalian LDLRAP1: evidence of cross-kingdom regulation by microRNA,published in the Journal Cell Research,the genetic material from rice showed up in human liver cells where it appeared to influence cells’ uptake of cholesterol from the blood.

117 posted on 05/27/2013 12:14:28 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk
have taken a more scientific approach by actually investigating how the body processes foreign DNA

Unless you have a deep, dark secret, I hope all your food has foreign, non-human, DNA.

According to recent research from China’s Nanjing University,when people eat rice,tiny sequences of microRNA from the plant-based food can survive the body’s digestive process and end up absorbed in human tissue where—and here’s the reason why we need to know about this study —plant microRNA may actually affect how our cells behave and function.

OMG! We should stop eating plants immediately! And animals too, just to be safe.

118 posted on 05/27/2013 12:24:16 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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New Study Links Genetically Engineered Corn to Infertility

… New study confirms that GM food damages fertility

In a new Austrian study ....it has been discovered that GM corn has a damaging effect upon the reproductive system (1).

The work was done at the request of the Austrian Health Ministry,and the results were presented yesterday by Professor Jurgen Zentek and his team to an expert conference organized by the Austrian Agency for Health and Food Safety. The work was done at the University of Vienna,using a GM maize hybrid line called NK603 xMON810,which has two copies of the RR gene in it,each copy with its own,different promoter sequence,as well as the MON810 gene.

… difference was statistically significant. Mice fed with GM-free corn reproduced more rapidly. In a series of carefully-controlled trials,it was also discovered that there was a statistically significant decrease in litter weight in the third and fourth litters of mice in the GM-fed group as compared to the control group.

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Bill Gates is a major shareholder of Monsanto, Speaks publicly about population control.

119 posted on 05/27/2013 12:40:49 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: Toddsterpatriot
It's late May in Alabama and all the lettuce in my garden has gone to seed; I told my family I'm cutting it down and planting okra there.

My wife asked why I didn't just save the seed so I could replant it next year. I explained to her that the lettuce varieties I was growing are hybrids, which do not produce seeds true to type—you never know what you're going to get, and usually it's crap.

The lettuce I planted has been around for many decades now. Nobody complains about hybrids like they do about GMO. I do not think the plants “know” the difference.

All a GMO is an advanced way to breed a hybrid. Just because a person is scientifically stupid is no reason to protest a company going about its legal business.

120 posted on 05/27/2013 12:42:48 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Toddsterpatriot
OMG! We should stop eating plants immediately! And animals too,just to be safe.

we? You can freely eat GMO if you choose.

the informed choice not to, is being impeded

121 posted on 05/27/2013 12:49:01 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: Toddsterpatriot
You left off... ,the genetic material from rice showed up in human liver cells where it appeared to influence cells’ uptake of cholesterol from the blood.
122 posted on 05/27/2013 12:57:43 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk
the informed choice not to, is being impeded

I already told you, you should spend whatever you feel you need, in order to not eat GMO.

123 posted on 05/27/2013 3:53:37 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: opentalk

Yeah, I’m sure there were more ridiculous, unproven claims, in your articles that I left off.


124 posted on 05/27/2013 3:54:28 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: opentalk
Bill Gates is a major shareholder of Monsanto

OMG! He also owns gold, sell, sell, sell!

125 posted on 05/27/2013 3:55:25 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
All a GMO is an advanced way to breed a hybrid. Just because a person is scientifically stupid is no reason to protest a company going about its legal business.

No kidding. If these clowns want to only eat plants that humans have not modified over the last 10,000 years, they'll be reduced to grinding acorns into flour.

126 posted on 05/27/2013 3:57:11 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Bt toxin...in blood samples..not natural
127 posted on 05/27/2013 5:40:58 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: Toddsterpatriot

You asked me to site studies. Listed six. It is obvious you are here to continue GMO agenda /propaganda....regardless of facts.


128 posted on 05/27/2013 6:19:08 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: laplata

...”I still believe that he could have been stopped”...

Not possible.


129 posted on 05/27/2013 6:31:56 PM PDT by caww
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To: opentalk
the genetic material from rice showed up in human liver cells where it appeared to influence cells’ uptake of cholesterol from the blood.

OMG! This has been happening since the first animal ate its first meal.

And yet, we're still here.

130 posted on 05/27/2013 6:33:04 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: opentalk

I am not a Monsanto fan but one could argue that they have saved countless lives.


131 posted on 05/27/2013 6:38:28 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: Toddsterpatriot
I already told you, you should spend whatever you feel you need, in order to not eat GMO.

Yes, I agree. Our family has made a studied choice to avoid GMO whenever we can. It is more expensive, no doubt, but we think it's worth it. It would be a lot easier if GMO foods were labeled as such.

Of course organic foods are labeled, and they're non-GMO by definition, but it's getting harder to know which foods contain GM ingredients.

I agree with similar sentiments posted: Just because a hippy doesn't like it... doesn't mean it's good.

132 posted on 05/27/2013 8:26:38 PM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: TontoKowalski
I agree with similar sentiments posted: Just because a hippy doesn't like it... doesn't mean it's good.

You're right. Just because unscientific left-wing idiots base their decisions on their feelings, doesn't mean your unscientific feelings are wrong.

133 posted on 05/27/2013 10:11:07 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Are you intentionally being obtuse or are you a Monsanto propogandist?

You’ve asked for specifics, then when FReepers have provided documentation, you just lob ridiculous platitudes about “feelings” and smart-ass comments that ignore the facts. I’m shocked you identify yourself as a patriot on a conservative forum. At the minimum, Monsanto has engaged in crony capitalism, and that should earn them the wrath & fury of every free-market conservative in the U.S.

Ask yourself why Monsanto, along with other producers of GM crops & foods, have spent literally millions to block leglislation that would require the labeling of GMO products? What do they have to hide? Why are they so unopposed to a free market?

That’s just scratching the surface. Their crops have ill health effects for humans & animals, and they’ve bullied many small family farms out of business, not to mention speculation that the death of bees may be a direct result of these crops.

Yet you sit here defending of a company that has yet to provide any answers to these very legitimate questions, mocking FReepers who just want answers and calling them stupid. Unbelieveable.


134 posted on 05/28/2013 8:36:30 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Why am I both pro-life & pro-gun? Because both positions defend the innocent and protect the weak.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

BTTT for later


135 posted on 05/28/2013 8:36:49 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Why am I both pro-life & pro-gun? Because both positions defend the innocent and protect the weak.)
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Illinois Illegally Seizes Bees Resistant to Monsanto's Roundup; Kills Remaining Queens
136 posted on 05/28/2013 9:10:15 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Toddsterpatriot; opentalk
"OMG! We should stop eating plants immediately! And animals too, just to be safe."

You are perhaps the least informed person to ever post on FR and arguably the most obnoxious.

137 posted on 05/28/2013 9:19:21 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been offically denied)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Hybrids are a result of cross breeding, much like a donkey breed with a horse results in a mule which can not reproduce.

GMOs are in an entirely different category. Genes deemed beneficial are implanted into the DNA of a some seed. For example the gene that triggers production of say nicotine is introduced into say corn as a natural insecticide. Sounds good, but whoever eats the corn is also eating nicotine. Since nobody knows exactly what genes are being introduced into the DNA of our foods I used nicotine as an fictional example to illustrate the process.

What we do know is mass die offs are occurring, bees, birds, etc. And there seems to be good evidence that GMOs are at least part of the reason.

I think a bit of caution might be justified here. Certainly I have a right to know what I am easting and GMO foods should be labeled as such.

138 posted on 05/28/2013 9:38:24 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been offically denied)
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To: jpsb

“You are perhaps the least informed person to ever post on FR and arguably the most obnoxious”

I’ll second that!


139 posted on 05/28/2013 10:01:17 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Why am I both pro-life & pro-gun? Because both positions defend the innocent and protect the weak.)
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To: surroundedbyblue
You’ve asked for specifics, then when FReepers have provided documentation

Yes, I saw several cases of silly claims.

At the minimum, Monsanto has engaged in crony capitalism,

Absolutely. Therefore, uninformed liberal claims about poisonous food must be true.

Their crops have ill health effects for humans & animals,

Really?

mocking FReepers who just want answers and calling them stupid.

Yes, I mock unscientific idiocy. I'm just shocked to see it coming from conservatives.

140 posted on 05/28/2013 1:46:35 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: jpsb

Projecting again?


141 posted on 05/28/2013 1:46:56 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: jpsb

If rhey were putting nicotine into corn well then, yeah, but that’s not what they’re doing. In any case if the genes are beneficial then that should be a good thing, no?

One thing we all learn on Free Republic is that there is a study for EVERYTHING. And any one study showing some position can and is countered with a study showing the opposite.

I find 90% of the studies against GMOs are hysterically and emotionally based, sorry. I prefer calm, rational tests with positive proof that x really leads to y.


142 posted on 05/28/2013 4:45:07 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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...“bio-ag” corporations have focused all of their efforts on genetically altering plants to do one of two things: 1) produce their own internal pesticide to kill or deter insects; and 2) be completely herbicide-resistant so they can be repeatedly sprayed with glyphosate (aka RoundUp),glufosinate,and 2-4,D (one of the primary ingredients of Agent Orange) to kill weeds. Some crops are genetically engineered with both traits; soy was recently genetically engineered to withstand all three.

For nearly two decades,NO studies have been performed on the human safety of GMO products —in fact the first research is only now emerging,and almost all of it is appearing only in countries outside of the U.S.

To date,no American scientist has investigated the levels of toxic residues in GMO foods.

There have been no studies to determine how much of the herbicides and pesticides that are genetically engineered into the crops remain inside the plant,once it reaches our dinner plate. … No long-term testing has been performed to assess the impacts of any of these toxic substances —neither on human health nor on the environment.

143 posted on 05/30/2013 5:45:29 AM PDT by opentalk
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U.S. tax dollars promote Monsanto's GMO crops overseas: report
144 posted on 06/02/2013 7:24:46 PM PDT by opentalk
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Unapproved genetically modified wheat from Monsanto found in Oregon field
145 posted on 06/02/2013 7:27:25 PM PDT by opentalk
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