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'I will gag the hate clerics': Cameron to launch new terror task force... (trunc title)
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 5/26/2013 | Simon Walters

Posted on 05/26/2013 5:37:31 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

David Cameron is planning new powers to muzzle Islamic hate preachers accused of provoking terrorist outrages such as the killing of soldier Lee Rigby.

The Prime Minister wants to stop extremist clerics using schools, colleges, prisons and mosques to spread their ‘poison’ and is to head a new Tackling Extremism and Radicalisation Task Force (TERFOR) made up of senior Ministers, MI5, police and moderate religious leaders.

The high-powered group will study a number of measures, including banning extremist clerics from being given public platforms to incite students, prisoners and other followers – and forcing mosque leaders to answer for ‘hate preachers’.

It will also urge Muslim ‘whistleblowers’ to report clerics who act as terrorist apologists to the police. The launch of TERFOR signals a major overhaul of the Government’s counter-terrorism strategy in the wake of the brutal murder of Drummer Rigby on Wednesday.

A senior Whitehall source said: ‘The PM is determined to challenge the poisonous narrative of extremist clerics and confront religious leaders who promote violence.’

The move comes as:


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Full title: "'I will gag the hate clerics': Cameron to launch new terror task force to bring an end to religious extremism"
1 posted on 05/26/2013 5:37:31 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

The only “hate” clerics who will be gagged will be Christian preachers who dare to preach the Gospel. There is no way any way that any muslim cleric will be shut down. They need to be deported, along with their followers, not gagged.


2 posted on 05/26/2013 5:46:47 AM PDT by littleharbour ("All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree. ~ James Madison)
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To: RoosterRedux

From earlier today:

The easiest way to look like you’re doing something while doing nothing is to employ a ‘taskforce’. Britain is too far over the edge to go back now. They’ve waited too long. They’ve disarmed their citizens. They have run G-d out of their country in favor of allah. They have allowed shariah in muslim areas and allowed it to be used in their own courts. Worse times ahead if they try to do something about it now. muslims will NEVER gove up the power they have attained in England...especially with that twit, charles, having converted.


3 posted on 05/26/2013 5:48:00 AM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: RoosterRedux

Is it too late?


4 posted on 05/26/2013 5:48:02 AM PDT by moovova
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To: RoosterRedux

Talk is cheap.


5 posted on 05/26/2013 5:52:18 AM PDT by McGruff (I can't speak to the law here. The law is irrelevant,)
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To: RoosterRedux

Too late; the UK is over with. Europe is next. America follows.

islam and muslims are worse than a scourge; they are a virus, replicating, infecting and destroying the world, country-by-country. The all must be eradicated, like a cancer.


6 posted on 05/26/2013 6:00:00 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: MestaMachine

muslims will NEVER gove up the power they have attained in England...especially with that twit, charles, having converted.
_________

Charles of the ears?

Converted to Islam?


7 posted on 05/26/2013 6:02:44 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum (God Bless America)
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To: RoosterRedux

>>David Cameron is planning new powers to muzzle Islamic hate preachers accused of provoking terrorist outrages<<

Like they won’t go underground...great work Davie boy.

They preach hate...DEPORT them back to the crap hole in which they came.

Man oh man, liberals just make me want to chew nails.


8 posted on 05/26/2013 6:02:54 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: MestaMachine
I'm not much of a Cameron fan but was pleased to see that he slapped down the MOD ban on uniforms in public places after Woolwich soldier killing.

And now this.

It'll be interesting to see what if anything comes of it.

9 posted on 05/26/2013 6:04:20 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama's Chechens are coming home...to roost.)
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To: RoosterRedux

UKIP is having an effect and Cameroon is worrying about his job. I hope UKIP can prevail before the Tories take over all their positions and thus minimize UKIP. If that happens the Tories will go right back to pushing Laborite socialism and Euroism..


10 posted on 05/26/2013 6:06:30 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: littleharbour

Yep, this “hate speech” ruse could be used to outlaw every religion on earth. A very attractive prospect to the obamas of the world.


11 posted on 05/26/2013 6:06:45 AM PDT by gotribe (Limit The Government's Right To Bear Arms)
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To: RoosterRedux

What really sucks is it looks like the sun is setting on the Middle East oil, and we could be done with these darn moose limbs, but in all their wisdom, Europe has imported millions of them, guaranteeing headaches for centuries to come.


12 posted on 05/26/2013 6:08:11 AM PDT by MNDude (Sorry for typos. Probably written on a smartphone, and I have big clumsy fingers.)
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To: RoosterRedux

In the English system Adebolajo will get 4 or 5 years in prison where he will be instrumental in converting a number of fellow prisoners to Islam and to Jihad. He will rcontinue his Jihad when he gets out.


13 posted on 05/26/2013 6:08:21 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: carriage_hill

The Mohammedan War will end when every living human being is Moslem or when none are.


14 posted on 05/26/2013 6:09:50 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: RoosterRedux

15 posted on 05/26/2013 6:12:53 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: RoosterRedux

Sure. I can guarantee you this will not happen. The first time a formerly-bearded savage starts squawking about ‘discrimination’ and ‘jihadiphobia’ Cameron will wimp out.

At least he won’t bow down in abject submission and beg forgiveness for putting that eeeevvvvviiiiillll soldier in the way of that innocent kind tolerant peaceful misunderstood individual innocently swinging a machete for peaceful purposes.


16 posted on 05/26/2013 6:13:22 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: arthurus
It is absolutely UKIP's ascendancy that has Cameron upset.

Check this out...

David Cameron's fury as top Tories plot UKIP pact which could make leader Nigel Farage a minister

17 posted on 05/26/2013 6:13:41 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama's Chechens are coming home...to roost.)
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To: arthurus

The Western World had better get ready for a bloodbath, the likes of which has never before been seen, if we are to rid the world of those subhuman filth.


18 posted on 05/26/2013 6:14:11 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: RoosterRedux

The end of Freedom of Speech and Religion.


19 posted on 05/26/2013 6:14:50 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Travis McGee

Needs killing.


20 posted on 05/26/2013 6:15:58 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: RoosterRedux

The “moderates” Cameron brings in to this may very well be the “extremists” he says he wants to fight.


21 posted on 05/26/2013 6:16:57 AM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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To: RoosterRedux

Cameron = BS.


22 posted on 05/26/2013 6:16:58 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Gag? That's not very freedom of speech of you, Cameron.
Better to publish openly everything they say and stop gagging the critics.

23 posted on 05/26/2013 6:17:47 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: RoosterRedux

It’s about time — just hope it will be effective.


24 posted on 05/26/2013 6:18:40 AM PDT by expat2
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To: RoosterRedux

Sounds like smoke and mirrors. If western governments were as adept at fighting terrorism as they are at inventing acronyms, we wouldn’t have a terror problem to invent acronyms for.


25 posted on 05/26/2013 6:18:55 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Sounds like Cameron may have some good ideas. Couldn’t do those things here because of our Constitution.


26 posted on 05/26/2013 6:19:03 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: RoosterRedux

Good move David Cameron! Time to empty the cesspool of true islam & see what’s sitting at the bottom.


27 posted on 05/26/2013 6:19:37 AM PDT by SIRTRIS
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To: RoosterRedux

So Cameron’s dramatic step is to appoint a committee, which will report back sometime and then propose some proposals which will be considered further.


28 posted on 05/26/2013 6:21:41 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: gotribe

I’m afraid so.

We live in a world of insane political leaders who prefer to blame anyone or anything but the insane criminals who kill people.

We get gun control laws in the US and in the UK since they already have gun control laws they come up with a speech control policy.


29 posted on 05/26/2013 6:22:00 AM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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To: arthurus

No. When muslims don’t have infidels to kill, they kill each other. Muslims kill. It’s their only function.


30 posted on 05/26/2013 6:23:22 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama equals Osama))
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To: RoosterRedux

Look for those British to take the law into their own hands.


31 posted on 05/26/2013 6:24:02 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: RoosterRedux

Remember what Michael Savage has said, America has guns, guns, guns, guns.


32 posted on 05/26/2013 6:25:53 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: RoosterRedux

Let’s see how well this works at the next mass Muslim demonstration when they’re carrying placards about beheading non-believers and ending democracy.


33 posted on 05/26/2013 6:26:27 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: RoosterRedux

In the US, obama is gagging Tea Partiers who love their Constitution.


34 posted on 05/26/2013 6:27:15 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Biggirl

That’s what the Swedes starting doing last week when the police were overwhelmed by their rioters.


35 posted on 05/26/2013 6:29:06 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama's Chechens are coming home...to roost.)
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To: RoosterRedux
It will also urge Muslim ‘whistleblowers’ to report clerics

Pssst! CaMoron, the scuzzlims are all on board with the hate clerics. It's what islam is.

36 posted on 05/26/2013 6:29:17 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: RoosterRedux

More too-little-too-late hand slapping, as if hand-slapping would do the job in the first place. Politicians are a joke wherever you find them, a bunch of fainting goats. Time to stop denying people the right to keep and bear arms (even those in Britain, *GASP*) and let them handle it.


37 posted on 05/26/2013 6:29:20 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: RoosterRedux

Here is a quote from the Woolrich terror killer that is spot on:

“Remove your governments. They don’t care about you. Do you think David Cameron is gonna get caught in the street when we start busting our guns? Do you think the politicians are going to die? No it’s going to be the average guy, like you, and your children. So get rid of them.”


38 posted on 05/26/2013 6:32:20 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Travis McGee

Jeez, some nut like that walks the streets of Houston would be shot multiple times by the locals. And the DA, Mike Anderson, would go for a “no bill”.


39 posted on 05/26/2013 6:34:05 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: gotribe

Couldn’t agree with you more. Bad precedent. Let them say what they want easier to find who they are when the time comes.


40 posted on 05/26/2013 6:39:44 AM PDT by tshaun
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To: RoosterRedux
David Cameron is planning new powers to muzzle Islamic hate preachers accused of provoking terrorist outrages
Bad idea ... let them talk so we know who they are.
First time they preach their hatred - level their mosques.
41 posted on 05/26/2013 6:39:48 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: RoosterRedux
Speech controls will not work.

Bounties and deportations (or executions) will work.

42 posted on 05/26/2013 6:44:05 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: Fred Hayek

If you want to see how deeply ingrained dhimmitude has become ingrained in the British establishment, just browse BBC.COM. They posted “reaction” to the terror event all of which are various government and muslim officials crying that the attacks are isolated madmen whose actions “have no basis in islam”. And, of course, the inevitable and fictional claims of retaliation against muslims:

“Reaction to the Woolwich Murder”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22637534

“Woolwich murder sparks anti-muslim backlash”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22664835


43 posted on 05/26/2013 6:46:18 AM PDT by littleharbour ("All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree. ~ James Madison)
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To: Venturer
The end of Freedom of Speech and Religion.

Islam is a totalitarian ideology with a political imperative, that is violent, coercive, repressive, and supremacist. It should not be treated as a religion until it reforms itself.

Islam is, was, and ever shall be our implacable enemy. GWB's fatal PC naivete and cowardice in declaring Islam the religion of peace has completely disarmed us.

Self preservation dictates that we do what is necessary to defeat the enemy. The threat posed by Islam is no different than that posed by Nazism, and should be treated as such.

One cannot incite to riot, murder and violence as speech. Murder, violence, and oppression are foundational to Islam. It must be pulled up, root and branch. It must be rejected by the West.

44 posted on 05/26/2013 6:56:41 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Hardraade
No. When muslims don’t have infidels to kill, they kill each other. Muslims kill

Mohammedans kill each other even when they do have plenty of infidels to kill because slight variations in who Moslems believe should be the caliph sets them at each other. It is still a Truth that the War of Islam against everyone wlse will end when all living humans are Moslem or none are. If that war ends with all moslem the other war of saracen on saracen will not end until there there are no Moslems left.

45 posted on 05/26/2013 6:57:17 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: carriage_hill

The Strategy of Islam to Infiltrate and Dominate a Host Population

- They seek out nations that have basic social freedoms or areas that our depressed or void of law
- They immigrate to these areas using the laws of freedom or take advantage of those in depressed areas by offering the basic essentials of life
- Once they have merged in the host country, Islam demands respect for its customs by the host population
- They immediately begin to import their own laws into the host population
- They use the “minority” radicals to spread fear among the host population and enforce Islam’s code
- They begin to populate large numbers of Muslims through immigration and birth in the host nation
- They do a show of force through large gatherings when outnumbered by the host population and center themselves in urban areas
- When outnumbered, they will appear as the victim. When they obtain the majority, they become the aggressor
- Once they gain the majority, they strike down the host population or drive them out by use of the “minority” radicals and seize what were the host population properties
- Once Muslims move into an area, they spread into the social fabric through the establishment of mosques, by the economic through stores in every part of the city to bring Muslims into areas once dominated by only the host population, the use the political sphere to get Muslims elected into local, then state, then federal offices by sheer numbers in order to take over the entire social, economic, and political host through the protection of what is defined as a religion
It more commonly fits the definition of a virus: a small infectious agent that can replicate only inside the living cells of organisms. Most viruses are too small to be seen directly with a light microscope. Viruses infect all types of organisms...

http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html


46 posted on 05/26/2013 6:57:29 AM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html - A real life experience book about the war in Iraq)
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To: RoosterRedux

Cameron isn’t talking about curing the disease. He is fixated on placing a band-aid on what to him is the most obvious symptom.


47 posted on 05/26/2013 7:00:46 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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To: Travis McGee

A word to rioting Muslims

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCXHPKhRCVg


48 posted on 05/26/2013 7:02:38 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: RoosterRedux
The Prime Minister wants to stop extremist clerics using schools, colleges, prisons and mosques to spread their ‘poison’ and is to head a new Tackling Extremism and Radicalisation Task Force (TERFOR) made up of senior Ministers, MI5, police and moderate religious leaders Muslim infiltrators.

There, fixed it

49 posted on 05/26/2013 7:05:35 AM PDT by airborne (MY HEROES DON'T WEAR CAPES. MY HEROES WEAR DOG TAGS ! ! !)
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To: RobinOfKingston

Winner winner chicken dinner! I say let them talk all they want. Hell, give them a microphone! Let the world hear what they have to say. The UK, just like the US, already has enough laws. Both have laws against rioting, bombmaking, murder, etc., and we need to start prosecuting to the fullest those who take these clerics’ speeches to heart. Halting immigration might not hurt either.


50 posted on 05/26/2013 7:07:47 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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