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Illinois House votes to allow residents to carry concealed guns
Chicago Tribune ^ | May 24, 2013 | Joanne Von Alroth

Posted on 05/25/2013 4:25:30 PM PDT by re_tail20

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To: RugerMini14

Wow... Grateful for the info.

You stay safe !

Thanks again.


41 posted on 05/25/2013 7:17:35 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; All
AR:Constitutional Carry will be the Law in Arkansas

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3012035/posts

The New Media Strikes!

42 posted on 05/25/2013 7:19:49 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Squantos

It becomes automatic because the Circuit Court of Appeals gave the State until the 9th of June to write and pass a Statute that passes Constitutional muster. If they fail to do so all laws in Illinois against carrying concealed become null and void. So at 12:01 AM on 10 June 2013 there will be no laws against concealed carry in Illinois whatsoever.

That’s the ideal situation in my view. No need to ask our “betters” for permission, pay fees, take mandatory training, or anything else.

Like I said, I live in very, very strange State. Hope that clears things up.

Stay well my friend.


43 posted on 05/25/2013 7:29:15 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

Does.... Have a good evening. I’m headed for some sleep....nite !


44 posted on 05/25/2013 7:34:47 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: morphing libertarian

LORD I HOPE SO! One collective grand maul to take ‘em all would be nice!!


45 posted on 05/25/2013 7:43:43 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: RugerMini14
Illinois has "home rule" whereby any city of sufficient size can pass their own restrictions. These restrictions are only misdemeanors at most, and also subject to court challenge.

Correct, and I *think* Home Rule is what Quinn was referring to the other day when he said (quite "stupidly") that he wanted a law passed that enabled each municipality to pass it's own "conceal/carry" ordinances.

That's just absurd! Imagine legally conceal/carrying in your hometown, but violating some obscure ordinance that you had no way of knowing about the minute you cross municipal borders!

The insanity!

46 posted on 05/25/2013 7:50:40 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Lurker
My brother in law and I are having an argument over this one ... will it be conceal/carry on June 10th if the State Legislature does nothing, or will it be OPEN carry?

For some reason, he has OPEN carry stuck in his head. My understanding is we'll have conceal/carry by default.

Which is it?

47 posted on 05/25/2013 7:55:14 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Tupelo
was thinking the same thing.
It really is MIGHTY WHITE OF THEM.

Uh, Mrs. Cooper, we don't say that.


48 posted on 05/25/2013 7:56:49 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: usconservative

Since only the law against concealed carry we’re found un-Constitutlional only concealed carry will be legal.


49 posted on 05/25/2013 7:58:32 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

Thanks!


50 posted on 05/25/2013 8:02:31 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

Happy to be of service.


51 posted on 05/25/2013 8:05:46 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: usconservative

Constitutional carry in other states is open or concealed. Load your car up with guns and drive wherever, same thing.

Indiana has carry license but most carry concealed, but possible to open carry. Not sure when open carry is beneficial or advantageous unless one is on property or with a group for a function.

Then there’s each state’s knife laws, restrictions which is more b.s. then slingshots and blowguns and ....more wasted time and money by power mad fools who falsely claim they are making the public safe.


52 posted on 05/25/2013 8:12:55 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: re_tail20
Illinois is the only state in the nation to ban most people from carrying a concealed gun outside the home

Again, I remind all that Hawaii's May Carry absolutely denies these privileges to anyone except personal buddies of the Chiefs of Police on each island.
53 posted on 05/25/2013 8:34:37 PM PDT by jobim (.)
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To: usconservative

You’re right. A safety course will also be required, on top of the background check and fee.


54 posted on 05/25/2013 9:10:25 PM PDT by re_tail20
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To: re_tail20

WHY EVERYONE NEEDS GUNS

When crap happens and a dangerous nutjob hacks at people, chews a homeless guys’ face off because he’s on bath salts, is trying to murder someone for a few bucks, or wants to cause a riot and chaos,

who comes in to deal with the REALITY OF THE SITUATION WITH THE NECESSARY TOOLS?

Liberal idiot professors and “experts” who, if they can just talk to the person, will get them to stop hacking, and shooting, and slashing and blowing up people?

Or does everyone wait for someone - an ARMED someone - to overpower and take out the nutjob?

Every damn time, they wait for the ARMED person, from wherever they come from - to DEAL WITH THE REALITY OF THIS WORLD.


55 posted on 05/25/2013 9:20:05 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (as with everything, shoving it in people's fc could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Lurker

Exactly. What will the criminals now do in Chicago when the intended victims can shoot back? Should be fun to watch.


56 posted on 05/25/2013 9:56:18 PM PDT by matt04
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To: usconservative

Maybe they are trying to see if they can hit the magic 600th homicide of the year in 2013.


57 posted on 05/25/2013 9:59:04 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Lurker; usconservative
Since only the law against concealed carry we’re found un-Constitutlional only concealed carry will be legal.

Um, not strictly true, as I understand it. Posner's decision in Moore invalidated the UUW law (Unauthorized Use of a Weapon), and he did so because it banned virtually all carry outside the home, conceal, open, whatever. What will happen come the deadline is there will be no valid law against any form of carry. Period. That's one of the reasons the anti-gunners are conjuring up images of the "wild west" if a new law isn't passed. Just imagine what people might do if they were actually free. Our "benevolent thug-ocracy" shudders to think of it.

58 posted on 05/26/2013 12:41:23 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: matt04
Looks like they're running a little low of that mark this year thus far. But hey, it's been a colder than normal spring here so I imagine there's a whole bunch of pent up killin' just waiting for a good warming trend.

I think the 100 mark was just hit recently...

59 posted on 05/26/2013 5:08:37 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: matt04
What will the criminals now do in Chicago when the intended victims can shoot back? Should be fun to watch.

The overwhelming majority of homicides/murders in Chicago happen in two or three neighborhoods. My daily train ride into the city to go to work takes me through one of those neighborhoods. It looks like a war zone (I really should video it one day and post the video.)

Those same two to three area's are overwhelmingly black. Even when school children are murdered as innocent bystanders in those areas, the people who live there DO NOT COOPERATE with the police. They just don't.

There's a "don't snitch to the cops" mentality of out fear of also getting themselves shot, and out of distrust of the police who seemingly can never solve a murder in those neighborhoods. (You and I know of course they can't solve the murder if the neighborhood doesn't produce a few witnesses, but the people who live there don't see it that way.)

So I wouldn't be so sure that the people who live in those war zones are going to start shooting back. They've seemingly been "conditioned" to accept the conditions in which they live and the murdering gang-banging thugs that live within their midst.

60 posted on 05/26/2013 5:14:54 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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