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Daily Kos: Oklahoma Tornado Casualties Show That ‘Free Market Conservatism Kills’
NewsBusters ^ | May 25, 2013 | 08:36 | Tom Johnson

Posted on 05/25/2013 1:20:30 PM PDT by Olog-hai

If you were looking for righty-bashing blog posts related to the Moore, Oklahoma disaster, Daily Kos was the place to be this past Wednesday.

Ian Reifowitz argued that conservatives’ childish hostility to government regulation boosted the tornado’s death toll because neither state nor local law requires safe rooms or shelters, and that absent a mandate, such life-saving structures quite often won’t get built. Reifowitz wrote:

Free market conservatism kills? Yes, that’s right…[T]here were no rules in Moore or anywhere else in Oklahoma mandating that buildings…have so-called “safe rooms” or underground shelters to protect people during a storm…

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dailykos; exploitdisaster; liberalpropaganda; mooretornado; nannystate
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To: Charles Martel

Yep, you can’t win with them. Either you’re an insane prepper or you shoulda seen it coming and were cheap.


21 posted on 05/25/2013 1:53:41 PM PDT by Monty22002
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To: Olog-hai

If ALL the government did was mandate safe housing codes and common sense things (you have to have standards, and weights and measures) I would have MUCH less of a problem with it...


22 posted on 05/25/2013 1:59:51 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Olog-hai

The schools were built under State and local GOVERNMENT control. If there were no safe rooms or shelters there, I’d say that’s the GOVERNMENT’S failing, not that of the free market.


23 posted on 05/25/2013 2:11:55 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: sourcery

Logically impossible: Oklahoma doesn’t operate as a “free-market conservative” society. It operates as a decidedly anti-free-market economy, as evidenced by the existence and operation of monopoly governments, monopoly court and judicial systems, monopoly law enforcement services and systems, a monopoly provider of legal tender where all competition is at best legally reduced to irrelevancy if not made outright illegal, compulsory taxation (you don’t get to choose your preferred provider of core services, nor do you get to choose which of those services you will purchase,) comprehensive regulation and licensing of business and professions by a monopolist of ultimate decision making who thereby has de facto control of the “private” economy to whatever degree it desires, and who uses that control to protect the rich and powerful from competition by those without sufficient capital to do business while conforming to all the regulations and licensing requirements.

So you may blame that fiercely unfree, anti-capitalist system for whatever happens or fails to happen. But you may not blame the free market, because the current system forbids its existence or operation.

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Bears repeating.


24 posted on 05/25/2013 2:12:11 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: Mr. K

The actual Civil Defense programs of the 60’s, when they made Geiger counters available and so on, were *good* and relatively cheap government spending. You’d get manuals and discounted emergency kits and so on.

Long ago now.. The hardware they made though back then is still mostly usable, I have a lot of CD geigers as both collectibles and user items and they still work well after 50+ years!


25 posted on 05/25/2013 2:12:33 PM PDT by Monty22002
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To: Olog-hai
Believe it are not, there are FReepers opposed to fiscal conservatism.
26 posted on 05/25/2013 2:21:38 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Olog-hai

“I HATE FREE MARKETS! I HATE CAPITALISM!!”

~ Sent from my iPhone


27 posted on 05/25/2013 2:24:37 PM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Olog-hai

Bomb shelters and fallout shelters were ridiculed by the Left even though they also served as civil defense shelters in storms and other times of tragedy/calamity.


28 posted on 05/25/2013 2:26:16 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Olog-hai

Anyone still think there’s a chance of civil coexistence with such militantly clueless fascist children ?


29 posted on 05/25/2013 2:28:12 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Olog-hai

Why is it so wrong to expect people to have some level or personal responsibility for their own wellbeing?

PS: Mother Nature Always Wins...


30 posted on 05/25/2013 2:28:41 PM PDT by EBH (The government that sits in Washington, D.C. is not the United States government.)
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To: Olog-hai

If people should be mandated to build tornado shelters in their homes, by logical extension, anybody living within ten miles of an ocean shoreline should be mandated to build their homes on stilts. That goes for all buildings, commercial or residential. Nobody should be allowed to live in an earthquake/volcano-prone area. Anybody who is a hiker, backpacker, or rock climber should be forbade from doing those activities. Too dangerous. The simple fact is if you don’t climb mountains, you can’t fall off them. There are a host of other activities and lifestyles that need banning because they’re too dangerous. It’s for your own good.


31 posted on 05/25/2013 2:38:07 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: Olog-hai

That’s also why disasters like floods and earthquakes kill far fewer people in non free market countries.

Oh wait. I’m being stupid.


32 posted on 05/25/2013 2:43:32 PM PDT by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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To: Olog-hai

“...absent a mandate, such life-saving structures quite often won’t get built...”

The insane arrogance contained in that phrase is the disease of liberalism, without doubt.

Whether I choose to build a ‘life-saving structure’ is no business of the gubmint.


33 posted on 05/25/2013 2:43:40 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: Olog-hai

that’s right if I live in a flood plain I am too stupid to know it floods. If I live in tornado alley I am too stupid to know that I will some day be hit by a tornado. The left wants to control everything and have zero chance of bad things happening. My suggestion is that they should all be put in a padded cell somewhere and left alone


34 posted on 05/25/2013 2:48:59 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Olog-hai
Ian Reifowitz argued that conservatives’ childish hostility to government regulation...

The left advocates for ever more government supervision.
The right advocates for less supervision - more independence.
Yet this clod calls rightists "childish" while his votes are always for more adult supervision for himself and his kind.

35 posted on 05/25/2013 2:57:33 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Olog-hai

Ban living...It ultimately results in death for everything on Earth.


36 posted on 05/25/2013 3:02:04 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: Sarah Barracuda

The shelters in the schools, Convention Center and Superdome worked out really well for New Orleans.


37 posted on 05/25/2013 3:07:09 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: Olog-hai

That’s insane. There is nothing about free market conservatism that stops states and municipalities from requiring safe building codes suited to their individual locales.


38 posted on 05/25/2013 3:14:56 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("There can be no dialogue with the prince of this world." -- Francis)
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To: cripplecreek

The gubmint schools have the money, they just choose to spend it on multi million dollar stadiums, do nothing union teachers , lgbt awareness, global warming consciousness and hate Whitey classes.


39 posted on 05/25/2013 3:15:53 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: tomkat

To the person, these folks are nothing but the loudmouth in the bar. Until someone knocks the living sh*t out of them.


40 posted on 05/25/2013 3:24:54 PM PDT by qaz123
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