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Birmingham area parents and pastors speak out on Boy Scouts (Largest PCA church against gay scouts)
al.com ^ | 5/24/2013 | Kent Faulk

Posted on 05/24/2013 10:33:13 PM PDT by darrellmaurina

...Churches have been perhaps the biggest supporters of scouting groups. But today a few pastors in the Birmingham area predicted that the new policy will cause some churches to drop their sponsorship of scouting programs.

The Rev. Harry Reeder, senior pastor of the 4,100-member Briarwood Presbyterian Church and outspoken critic of efforts to change Boy Scout policy on homosexuality, said evangelical churches are a bedrock of support for the Boy Scout tradition in Alabama. But that's now in danger, he said.

"When a church holds to a biblical social ethic of sex only between a man and a woman in monogamous marriage, it cannot support an organization that opposes that," Reeder said. "That would introduce sexual anarchy into the teaching of the church. There will be a significant response from evangelical churches."...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; bsa; homosexualagenda; scouts
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To: darrellmaurina
We used to worry about queer scout leaders preying on the boys. Now we'll have to worry about older boys preying on the younger ones. Sickening.
41 posted on 05/25/2013 1:07:07 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: MacNaughton

2014, the year of the time bombs, Obamacare-in-earnest and gay Scouts.


42 posted on 05/25/2013 1:43:19 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Army Air Corps

There is some room to act here, though not a huge amount of it. Maybe these brave Scout leaders were a little chicken, hoping to get rescued by somebody else before it has to happen.

If I were king what would I want to set in motion? Well I would make every emphasis upon the deliverance of former homosexuals from sin. They have tended to hang back and not be very voluble witnesses, except to one another. Perhaps the good Lord has said this needs to change and He’s ready to pour out the power when “they overcome [Satan] by the blood of the Lamb AND BY THEIR TESTIMONY”. Hello Exodus International et al., this means you....


43 posted on 05/25/2013 2:12:44 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: narses
Thanks for pinging this out, Narses!
44 posted on 05/25/2013 8:20:41 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina

What are some of the best alternative programs to the Boy Scouts?


45 posted on 05/25/2013 8:58:15 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: tbw2; MacNaughton
Good question, TBW. I think there are other Freepers who can give better answers evaluating the major alternatives.

I think this article about faith-based alternatives is helpful:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/18/9-faith-based-and-secular-alternatives-to-the-boy-scouts-of-america/

The one I know the most about is the Calvinist Cadet Corps, which has roots in the Christian Reformed Church (the Dutch Reformed had problems with Baden-Powell's generic approach to religion all the way back to the earliest days of Scouting) but now contains a number of Orthodox Presbyterian and United Reformed church groups. Personally I'd love to see a major influx of PCA churches and others which have traditionally used the Boy Scouts.

For those in other denominations, the article also references the Southern Baptist Convention's Royal Ambassadors, the Assemblies of God's Royal Rangers, and the Seventh Day Adventists’ Pathfinders.

My guess is all of these groups are going to see a major influx over the next few years unless the Boy Scouts make a major change and do it quickly.

46 posted on 05/25/2013 9:31:45 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: missnry; darrellmaurina
This is exactly what we are up against! This scout is so stupid he doesn't even know the Scout motto about MORALITY!

The problem is everyone is making up their own morality. I'm sure if you asked this guy if it's OK to let a compulsive liar or stealer into the group, he'd be against that. But why? "Inclusiveness" is just a sham.

Without the bible, or at least some authoritative standard, there is no basis for morality of any kind. Everyone does what is right in their own eyes.

47 posted on 05/26/2013 2:48:42 AM PDT by HarleyD
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47 posted on 5/26/2013 4:48:42 AM by HarleyD: “Without the bible, or at least some authoritative standard, there is no basis for morality of any kind. Everyone does what is right in their own eyes.”

Amen!

48 posted on 05/27/2013 7:49:27 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina

I had Dr. Reeder as a seminary professor—and he really is a remarkable man. In a class of about 35, he knew only one or two students. On the opening day, he told us each to introduce ourselves, and tell where we were from and what college we went to. When all 35 finished, Dr. Reeder went back over each student...recalling their first and last name, home-town, and college...flawlessly, without notes. Only a very well trained mind can do that.

Dr. Reeder is also a noteable Civil War historian—and no, he doesn’t take the “it was only about state’s rights!” stand...


49 posted on 05/27/2013 11:31:33 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (because the real world is not digital...)
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To: darrellmaurina

As a Life scout back in the ‘70s, I recall even then, having serious doubts about the organization. Why? It, like the Masons, attempted to be a values-instilling group, yet denied any sort of overt Christianity—basically officially just spouting the old USA vague “civil religion” of God & country, with Judeo/Christian values. That worked OK when 99% were Christians & Jews—and no Christian denomination or Jewish group differed on sexual morality.

Now all the mainline Church denominations have either accepted, or are fighting over, whether active homosexuals (I call them sodomites) can be ordained—and the majority of scout troups are sponsored by such mainline churches. No wonder the chaous and confusion.

Since the federal government—and many state governments are favoring and rewarding sodomy and its promoters, why should we be surprised that the BSA—after many years of severe pressure, has caved. I’ll give them 3 years now before they also accept sodomite scoutmasters.

Put a fork in ‘em, they’re done.


50 posted on 05/27/2013 11:43:50 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (because the real world is not digital...)
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To: SoFloFreeper
The word "some" ought to be "ALL".

Absolutely. If my Southern Baptist Church ever gives any money or support of any kind to the now-PC BSA I'm outta there before the next Sunday comes around.

I have admired the BSA organization and it's adult leaders since I was a young man 50 years ago, but for some reason that I don't remember I never joined even though most of my buddies at the time did. But now I'm almost glad that I didn't join, and for the life of me I can't understand why any parents would allow their sons to join such a politically correct but morally corrupt outfit as the BSA has now become. I don't hate queers, I pity them. But I don't want to see any impressionable young boys having to share membership, and very possibly a tent, with adult homosexual Scout "leaders". That will probably be the next step in the ongoing effort to transform the BSA into a PC org no matter what the cost may be to both the boys and parents who will now have to choose between the benefits that Scouting has provided to boys and parents for a century or more, or pulling their sons out of the now PC org that still calls itself the BSA.

I suppose the next step will be acceptance of adult queers as Scout leaders, which if it happens will be equivalent to pairing up just-hatched chickens with adult foxes on the prowl for tender young poultry flesh. Dear God above, what has our once great Christian nation now come to? As I approach 76 years of life in America I can hardly even recognize it today.

51 posted on 05/29/2013 11:03:08 PM PDT by epow ("whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap", (Gal ch 6, v7))
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