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Killers who butchered soldiers are condemned by Muslim groups
Daily Mail ^ | 24th May 2013 | Vanessa Allen

Posted on 05/24/2013 3:25:21 AM PDT by the scotsman

'The killers who executed a soldier on a London street were yesterday condemned by Muslim groups for their 'truly barbaric act'.

The Muslim Council of Britain said the killers’ use of 'Islamic slogans' indicated they were motivated by their faith.

A statement from the council said: 'This is a truly barbaric act that has no basis in Islam and we condemn this unreservedly. Our thoughts are with the victim and his family.

'We understand the victim is a serving member of the Armed Forces. Muslims have long served in this country’s Armed Forces, proudly and with honour.

'This attack on a member of the Armed Forces is dishonourable, and no cause justifies this murder.'

The group called for vigilance and solidarity between 'all our communities, Muslim and non-Muslim', and for police to 'calm tensions'.

Akbar Khan from Building Bridges said : 'We totally condemn the killing of an innocent person in Woolwich.

'And we also condemn all forms of extremism wherever they are.

'The thoughts of the Muslim community are with the family of the man who lost his life, and we pray for him.'

Mohammed Shafiq from the Ramadhan Foundation said yesterday: 'I wish to condemn the evil and barbaric crime carried out in Woolwich.

'Our immediate thoughts are with the family and friends of the victims. From whatever angle you see the attack, it was at every level evil.

'We must allow the police to gather all the facts before unnecessary speculation and wait for the facts before determining its impact on our country.

'But what happens in the days to come, London and our nation will come together and will not be divided. The terrorists will never win and succeed in their evil plans.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: davidcameron; philiphammond; unitedkingdom; waronterror; woolwich
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1 posted on 05/24/2013 3:25:21 AM PDT by the scotsman
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To: the scotsman

When they march in solidarity with the EDL and over-shout the corner muslim hate-preachers (like the one that radicalized the other 2), then I’ll take what they say at face-value.


3 posted on 05/24/2013 3:35:24 AM PDT by brent13a
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To: the scotsman
It's more than okay to lie to infidels, so I wouldn't put too much stock in this statement.

By their fruits you will know them.

4 posted on 05/24/2013 3:46:35 AM PDT by Wingy
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To: Christian1

Taquiy’ya. ALWAYS assume a Muslim is lying. . .


5 posted on 05/24/2013 3:50:18 AM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: the scotsman

Sure they do. /sarc


6 posted on 05/24/2013 3:51:22 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: the scotsman

Shovel that Bull dung to someone who is stupid enough to believe it Hoss.


7 posted on 05/24/2013 3:52:07 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: the scotsman

L O U D E R !!!

I can’t hear you!


8 posted on 05/24/2013 3:52:31 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks the scotsman.


9 posted on 05/24/2013 3:55:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: the scotsman

I do not trust a single Muslim group.

Anyone with some real knowledge of the Koran does not trust Islam or its leaders

These folks will do nothing to silence their cult followers


10 posted on 05/24/2013 4:08:37 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: the scotsman

I’m certain the local Louisiana sheriffs publically decried the hanging of black men by the KKK. Even though the sheriff and his deputies were members, if not participants in said hanging.


11 posted on 05/24/2013 4:18:31 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Wingy

Amen. Read their book. Evil incarnate.


12 posted on 05/24/2013 4:18:45 AM PDT by Machavelli (True God)
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To: the scotsman

Openly condemned, privately cheered. The two faces of Islam.


13 posted on 05/24/2013 4:20:49 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: the scotsman

You know if that soldier had his sidearm, that’d never have happened. Oh that’s right ... guns aren’t allowed in the U.K.


14 posted on 05/24/2013 4:23:17 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: the scotsman

TAQIYYA!

LLS


15 posted on 05/24/2013 4:25:33 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: the scotsman

Put a sock in it.


16 posted on 05/24/2013 4:26:34 AM PDT by rsobin
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To: the scotsman

             

17 posted on 05/24/2013 4:29:39 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: usconservative

Wrong.
Your knowledge of the UK is actually pitiful.


18 posted on 05/24/2013 4:34:54 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: rsobin

I lost mine in the washing machine, care to lend me one?.


19 posted on 05/24/2013 4:35:57 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman

They think it’s fine to lie to infidels. Usually works, too,gets the monkey off their backs until they can strike again.
Of course, to be politically correct, we have to have freedom of murdering cults...


20 posted on 05/24/2013 4:36:30 AM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: the scotsman

Quran (8:12):

“I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them”


21 posted on 05/24/2013 4:41:53 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: the scotsman
'And we also condemn all forms of extremism wherever they are.

So what other forms of "extremism" was he referring to? IMO it was a thinly veiled reference to the war against terrorists and terrorism by America and Britain. What else?

Islam spawns terrorism and terrorists. There is no way to dispute that.

22 posted on 05/24/2013 4:42:06 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: the scotsman

All muslims belong in the Middle East where they can worship their meteorite chip and live under their murderous sharia law. Ship them ALL back home.


23 posted on 05/24/2013 4:46:21 AM PDT by abclily
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To: usconservative
iYou know if that soldier had his sidearm, that’d never have happened. Oh that’s right ... guns aren’t allowed in the U.K.

Unfortunately, in this case that may not have helped. The murderers drove their car onto the sidewalk, running over the soldier and injuring him, before jumping out to attack.

24 posted on 05/24/2013 4:46:54 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: brent13a
When they march in solidarity...

exactly. What is the opinion of the every day Muslim? Where are their voices?Silence may not be consent, but it only seems like the leadership has an opinion and the rest are too afraid to speak out. It's been like this since 9-11

25 posted on 05/24/2013 4:54:56 AM PDT by opticks
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To: Quickgun

The UK needs the equivalent of the Indian THUGEE cult to take care of this infestation one muzzie at a time ...


26 posted on 05/24/2013 4:56:43 AM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: the scotsman

And one liar of a politician will deplore another politician’s lies - some may be sincere, but it is to the advantage of those want jihad to join the chorus and help stave off the heat.


27 posted on 05/24/2013 5:02:58 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Neidermeyer

Long time since I read about them.That would work, though!


28 posted on 05/24/2013 5:04:19 AM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: the scotsman
Your knowledge of the UK is actually pitiful.

Your knowledge of what happens in your own country combined with a complete ignorance of the United States is downright pathetic.

The facts are this: There are more handgun murders per capita in the UK than there are in the United States.

That's fact #1.

Fact #2: There are more murders per capita in the UK than in the United States. Your countrymen have demonstrated quite a proficiency in killing their fellow Brit's using hammers, axes, clubs, kitchen knives and other instruments as the weapon of choice instead of using a gun.

Fact #3: There are also more violent crimes such as burglaries, rapes, street muggings, etc.. per capita in the UK than in the United States.

Fact #4: The United States of America ranks somewhere around 197 on the list of countries with the most violence. The UK is easily in the top 100. (That according to a U.N. Statistic.)

All of the above FACTS have been demonstrated time and again here on this forum.

But hey, if you want to worship the idol of UK disinformation known as Piers Morgan - you go right on ahead.

29 posted on 05/24/2013 5:13:54 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: brent13a
When they march in solidarity with the EDL

The EDL would never allow Muslims to march with them.

30 posted on 05/24/2013 5:14:03 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: usconservative

Gun/handgun murders:

UK:900 (15 per million)
US:15000 (50 per million)

US gun murder rate is 3.33 times higher.

Murder rate (per 100000):
UK: 1.2
US: 4.8

US murder rate is FOUR times higher.


31 posted on 05/24/2013 5:19:58 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: usconservative
Fact #2: There are more murders per capita in the UK than in the United States. Your countrymen have demonstrated quite a proficiency in killing their fellow Brit's using hammers, axes, clubs, kitchen knives and other instruments as the weapon of choice instead of using a gun.

Source? I've seen the opposite.

32 posted on 05/24/2013 5:22:21 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: usconservative

1—You said the UK dosent have guns. I have pointed out many times on FR that the UK has 2.3m legal guns. You are talking to the owner of two of them.

2—I have pointed out that the UK has crimes classed as violent which are not in the US and other countries. That makes the UK look much more ‘violent’ than it actually is. Its a crime of violence against the person in the UK to take a crew of a ship out in weather which is dangerous to their wellbeing. Think I am kidding, go check.

Are we more violent than we were?. Yes. But the UK is still a safe country, and not a violent country overall.

3—The biggest violent crime in the UK is burglary. Murder is still pretty rare. Gun crime and gun murder are very low (900 deaths in a country of 60 million).

4-’There are also more violent crimes such as burglaries, rapes, street muggings, etc.. per capita in the UK than in the United States.’

Yet a—the biggest violent crime in the UK is against property, in the US its against people and b—the US rate of rape is still slightly higher than in the UK. Although both are pretty similar.

Also, the crime rate for violence and overall is falling in the UK. It was highest in the last 15 yrs. Gun crime and murders are down, rape is down, even assault is starting to drop.

5—’Fact #4:’

You honestly think the UK is twice as violent as the US?. Do you think the UK is a more violent country than the US?.

6-Are you denying the United States is a violent, if not very violent country?.

7—The only things I’d do with Morgan would be to beat him up and then piss on him. A vile piece of excrement whom I am genuinely sorry you and all Americans have to put up with.

Kick the scum out.


33 posted on 05/24/2013 5:32:12 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: mazda77

anyone thinking they really are sorry must be insane.

These people have got bad attention and now they are in damage control but behind the scenes they still tell their muslims how the UK will be taken over.

Infact that is it.

They want the UK to be sharia law and this is not good for them


34 posted on 05/24/2013 5:49:21 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SunkenCiv

it’s the usual crap of we’re sorry no place, this is not islam and then behind the scenes they call death to non muslims.

They might still be able to fool some in the Uk but hopefully not everyone here


35 posted on 05/24/2013 5:50:34 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: luvbach1

The muzzies’ running over the British soldier is usually left out of news accounts, because that would make them look even more like the filthy Islamic cowards they are.

The yellow b@stards apparently thought it necessary to soften him up first, before attacking him with meat cleavers & knives.

Nuke Makkah NOW!


36 posted on 05/24/2013 5:51:47 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: usconservative

England is not his country, and you’re right.

Violence is awful in England, you can’t even go for a drink without seeing a fight or something to do with violence.

Bottles in peoples faces, knives and yes guns in the cities and people can’t defend themselves because the bleeding hearts come out to defend them.
BTW I am form there Manchester and from the streets not some country little town up in Scotland


37 posted on 05/24/2013 5:54:05 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: elcid1970

agree , even withmeat cleavers in their hands and there are two of them they still can’t face a soldier in the face man to man.
They had to use the car to mow him down first and make sure he;s down and ten commit this act in the name of Islam and guess what.

Yes there are people in the UK who are now saying this is not terrorism, or thankfully they were not Pakistani’s[PAKI’S] or just look at those evil racist protesting this called the EDL.

Disgusting vile bleeding hearts who can’t face the real problems due to their white guilt but of course me saying that must mean I;m racist too ARF


38 posted on 05/24/2013 5:57:20 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: the scotsman

Make ‘em say it in Arabic. What they say in English is meaningless.
Make sure you have some non-Moslem Arabic translators handy, though, ‘cause I bet their “condemnation” will be waaaay different.


39 posted on 05/24/2013 5:59:35 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it gettingthe so hot?)
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To: manc

Can’t say I envy anyone who lives in UK, not even the Royal Family. I have far more gun rights here in America than any of them.


40 posted on 05/24/2013 6:10:32 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: elcid1970

it’s why left.
I now have a gun SIG P 229 , I have freedom of speech , well sort of under obama


41 posted on 05/24/2013 6:16:55 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: the scotsman
The only things I’d do with Morgan would be to beat him up and then piss on him. A vile piece of excrement whom I am genuinely sorry you and all Americans have to put up with.

Sound advice...Morgan will probably invite the murderers (should they survive) to appear on CNN, so we can hear 'their side' of the story.

43 posted on 05/24/2013 6:20:48 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: the scotsman

And what do we hear from CAIR here stateside?


44 posted on 05/24/2013 6:22:26 AM PDT by Rapscallion (In Benghazi they died; Obama, Clinton and Rice lied. God may forgive. I do not.)
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“You said the UK dosent have guns. I have pointed out many times on FR that the UK has 2.3m legal guns. You are talking to the owner of two of them.”

Your propaganda is well known. The UK outlawed handguns. Got any of those? Exactly what two guns do you own? Exact year, make and model. The UK outlawed you to use them to defend yourself, to carry them, or to use them except in the most strict compliance with hunting laws.

Propaganda is lying because when you don’t tell the expected whole truth you are lying, trying to deceive, liar.


46 posted on 05/24/2013 6:26:09 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: the scotsman

“Unlike me, you turned tail and ran. To the US. You wouldnt fight for your own country’s future. “

When did you exactly fight for England or Scotland? I don’t recall in modern times either was in jeopardy.


47 posted on 05/24/2013 6:27:16 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: the scotsman

“Unlike me, you turned tail and ran. To the US. “

Ironic you say that while posting on this website which is a US website.


48 posted on 05/24/2013 6:28:01 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: the scotsman

“UK:900 (15 per million)
US:15000 (50 per million)”

Murders or deaths by handgun since the people here, unlike the sissified UK, have the right to use a handgun in self defense and do so? What we call self defense you pussies call murder.


49 posted on 05/24/2013 6:32:00 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: CodeToad

Handguns are mostly illegal (some exceptions) on the UK mainland, but are perfectly legal in NI. As is concealed carry in NI. NI has the best gun laws in the UK.

Handguns licences in the UK mainland are allowed, but are a minority (just 546 in Scotland for example). Concealed carry IS allowed, but with a permit and usually only for exceptional circumstances.

Most of the 2.3m UK weapons are rifles and shotguns. Which is historically what most UK arms have been (handgun ownership has always been of a minority). I own one rifle and one shotgun, for which I have a licence.

UK guns do not have to comply only with hunting laws, as long as you have a licence and keep the guns in a secure cabinet, you are ok. Many UK gun owners (as I do) use them on shooting ranges (I shoot at two local ranges and am member of three Ayrshire gun clubs).


50 posted on 05/24/2013 6:33:52 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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