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Woolwich attack video: Firearms expert's view on extraordinary Daily Mirror footage
Daily Mirror ^ | 24th May 2013 | Peter Kirkham

Posted on 05/23/2013 5:55:04 PM PDT by the scotsman

'This is a terrible situation for any armed officer to face.

I have never ever seen or even heard of a scenario where two suspects attack a victim and then remain on the scene in full view waiting for the police to arrive.

Training covers ‘precise’ situations which are contained and there is a good understanding of what is happening and ‘imprecise’ ones, which are much less controlled.

This is at the extreme end of the imprecise spectrum.

As soon as the armed response vehicle turns the corner and before it has even stopped they have sprung into action.

The man with the knife is sprinting directly at them, he seems determined to get at the officers.

The woman officer driving may have had her Tazer on her lap as she would not risk putting a live firearm on her lap wile she was driving.'

(Excerpt) Read more at mirror.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: banglist; davidcameron; philiphammond; unitedkingdom; waronterror; woolwich
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To: soycd

The men will be named if charged. I think your reading too much into that.


21 posted on 05/24/2013 6:04:52 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman

>she would not risk putting a live firearm on her lap wile she was driving

Safety first you know. I wouldn’t have it in my lap either, it would be pointed out the window ready to burn cordite.


22 posted on 05/24/2013 6:06:48 AM PDT by soycd
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To: the scotsman

Why not have a loaded firearm on your lap and ready for action?


23 posted on 05/24/2013 6:11:26 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD; All

“Why not have a loaded firearm on your lap and ready for action?”

Because it is not really “ready for action”. If you have to brake hard, make a sharp turn, take evasive action, it can easily end up on the floor and under the front seat.

It is a lesson from the FBI Miami shootout with Platt and Matix in the 1986. Several FBI agents put their firearms on their laps or on the car seat, then spent most of the gun fight looking for them after they bounced around the floor as they crash stopped Platt and Matix in their stolen Monte Carlo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_FBI_Miami_shootout


24 posted on 05/24/2013 6:46:21 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain

I read an article about how most British police units do no carry guns so a special unit which did had to be called in. One day they will learn. Maybe.


25 posted on 05/24/2013 8:11:42 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red in Blue PA

A fair number of British police do carry guns, but it is a small percentage.

When I was a dealer, I got a sweet deal from an importer who had managed to snag Smith & Wesson model 10 London police pistols when they upgraded to the Glock 17. This was about 10-12 years ago.

Those model 10’s had British proof marks, and had lots of carry wear, but appeared to have been shot little. They were and are a wonderful revolver. I may have one or two hanging around somewhere, but I sold most of them. I think I eventually went through about two dozen of them.


26 posted on 05/24/2013 9:12:29 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain

Excellent. Thanks.


27 posted on 05/24/2013 10:44:59 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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