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British troops told not to wear uniforms outside bases after yesterday’s attack in London
Hot Air ^ | May 23, 2013 | Allahpundit

Posted on 05/23/2013 11:25:26 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Hard to imagine a more demoralizing order for a soldier than to tell him to take off the uniform and hide after an enemy’s attack. And the powers that be know it: They’re stressing that the order’s temporary in order to blunt public indignation over their decision.

The twisted punchline here is that the victim yesterday wasn’t wearing a uniform. The two degenerates who murdered him apparently targeted him because they saw him entering or exiting a barracks. There’s the next move, presumably — evacuate the barracks nationwide until they’re safe. For soldiers.

Defence sources said the order had been given that uniform should not be worn by those travelling alone, or on public transport as a “common sense precaution” immediately after the killing

A source stressed the order was temporary while investigations into the killing carried on and the decision would be reviewed in the next few days…

“Personally, I would argue against it,” [Col Richard Kemp] told the Today programme. “As we saw in this case you don’t need to have somebody in uniform, you just need to have someone who knows a bit about soldiers and does a bit of observation in the vicinity of a barracks and you can identify a soldier very quickly…

The Ministry of Defence has already announced it is increasing security at all barracks in London.

A lingering mystery: Why did none of the (apparently many) bystanders intervene yesterday to stop the jihadis in the act? By some accounts, it took 20 minutes for the cops to get there. The terrorists took time to chat with people nearby. Unless I missed something, no one laid a hand on them until they were eventually shot by police. Is that the Kitty Genovese syndrome at work or something worse?(continued)

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: britain; dhimmis; islam; jihad; uktroops; woolwich
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We're almost to that point, as well.
1 posted on 05/23/2013 11:25:27 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What you do is put more uniforms on the street, not less.

Arm them too. Next guy tries this stunt needs to be put down on the spot.


2 posted on 05/23/2013 11:26:46 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The soldiers should be carrying and normally uniformed.


3 posted on 05/23/2013 11:27:13 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nice diesel btw. Lost track of that thread.


4 posted on 05/23/2013 11:28:02 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: All

This is the column by Richard Fernandez that he references later in the article:

The Manhood of the West (The “incident” In Woolrich, England)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3022853/posts


5 posted on 05/23/2013 11:28:10 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The british politicans just pissed their pants...

The Islamists will notice this....

Expect more butchery as a result...


6 posted on 05/23/2013 11:28:22 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

An entire Western army retreating in fear due to the actions of two blacks. In the army’s own homeland no less!


7 posted on 05/23/2013 11:28:26 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
WUSSIES!!!
8 posted on 05/23/2013 11:29:59 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("The White House can't be trusted." - Ron Fournier, National Journal)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you have foxes killing your chickens you don’t dress the chickens up in turkey costumes, you kill the foxes.


9 posted on 05/23/2013 11:29:59 AM PDT by The Louiswu (Torpedo the Constitution and full speed ahead!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22638431

Wear your uniforms PM tells forces


10 posted on 05/23/2013 11:30:17 AM PDT by MadMitch (nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: The Louiswu

“If you have foxes killing your chickens you don’t dress the chickens up in turkey costumes, you kill the foxes.”

Not if your goal is to kill chickens.


11 posted on 05/23/2013 11:31:13 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Who actually gave that idiotic order.

Instead they should order their troops to wear their uniforms in public in THEIR country WITH loaded sidearms and shoot dead any foreign bastard or foreign bastard feigning British Citizenship who attempts to assault them.

12 posted on 05/23/2013 11:31:18 AM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is what happens when your government lets the enemy move in or invade your country en masse


13 posted on 05/23/2013 11:31:27 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t think our army has time to issue such an order as they may be too busy buggering each other


14 posted on 05/23/2013 11:31:33 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Back in the 1980s the SAS did the same and probably still do, they were surprised that we Americans could wear our jazzed up, elite unit (civilian) T-shirts or uniforms to and from duty.


15 posted on 05/23/2013 11:31:33 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Freaking idiots! They ALL need to wear uniforms and WEAPONRY enogh to put down any of these rabid dogs if they try to attack.


16 posted on 05/23/2013 11:31:55 AM PDT by Edgar3 (Don't THREAD on me!)
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To: Gene Eric

“There were also questions over why it took around 20 minutes for armed police to arrive on the scene, during which time the killers calmly walked up and down the road, carrying their bloodied knives and a pistol, while members of the public confronted them.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/10073910/Woolwich-attack-terrorist-proclaimed-an-eye-for-an-eye-after-attack.html


17 posted on 05/23/2013 11:33:21 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("The White House can't be trusted." - Ron Fournier, National Journal)
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To: DoughtyOne
I said exactly the same thing when I saw this last night. Aproximately, the bad guys get one free swing, and they've used it.

Not politically correct to think that way thought. Murderous thugs on a rampage need a hug, not a doubletap.

18 posted on 05/23/2013 11:34:19 AM PDT by wbill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The UK has been taken over by bloodthirsty Muslims.

Coming to a country near you soon.


19 posted on 05/23/2013 11:34:32 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Gene Eric

Was going to buy it for $2,000 but ultimately got it for $100.


20 posted on 05/23/2013 11:34:55 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: wbill

I’m old school. Double-tap works for me.


21 posted on 05/23/2013 11:35:13 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’d be way too easy to give them firearms......


22 posted on 05/23/2013 11:35:47 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How about they just carry their rifles when they wear the uniform?


23 posted on 05/23/2013 11:36:35 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: GraceG

But any more attacks will be against ‘civilians’ and treated as a crime since the soldier will not be in uniform.


24 posted on 05/23/2013 11:36:58 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Go back to the armory and dig out all those old Webleys that aren’t being used and make sure everyone is armed and preferably traveling in pairs.


25 posted on 05/23/2013 11:38:01 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: Jim Robinson

What would happen if this event occurred in an American state that supported the U.S.Constitution?
Do you think that 2,3 or 4 LEGAL gun carrying citizens may have stopped this butchery?
Of course, in New York and other PC places, the citizens would watch, hesitating to go against a machete.
As was shown in England, when danger is present NOW, the police forces are a mere 20 minutes away.


26 posted on 05/23/2013 11:41:48 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (NY TIMES: "We print the news as it fits our views")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sounds like an unconditional surrender to me.


27 posted on 05/23/2013 11:43:04 AM PDT by henkster (I have one more cow than my neighbor. I am a kulak.)
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To: DoughtyOne

an eye for an eye....that is the Mussie war cry...it could be a double-edged sword!!!


28 posted on 05/23/2013 11:48:48 AM PDT by B212
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One more win for the muzzies.

And on and on it goes.


29 posted on 05/23/2013 11:49:01 AM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Interesting. And that is exactly how the socialist technocrats who rule us wanted the crowd to act - not make trouble, and talk to the subhumans as people.

In a more genteel society, the crowd would have attacked the two mutants and the only thing left for the police to deal with when they arrived would have been piles of assorted body parts and disjointed body organs.

We have to get our manhood back even if it means going right through the maniacs who feel they have a right to “rule” us.

30 posted on 05/23/2013 11:50:26 AM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If it’s unsafe to wear your own country’s uniform in your own country...you don’t have a country anymore.


31 posted on 05/23/2013 11:50:59 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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To: Uncle Miltie

They lost the combination to their weapons locker.


32 posted on 05/23/2013 11:51:51 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

A far cry from the once mighty army of the Brittish Empire.


33 posted on 05/23/2013 11:52:15 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: B212

Forgive me, but I thought it was...

Where are some innocent people? I feel like killing somebody.


34 posted on 05/23/2013 11:52:21 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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Utterly DISGRACEFUL when you are ordered NOT to wear your military uniform in your HOME COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


35 posted on 05/23/2013 11:54:52 AM PDT by Boonie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Run Away! Run Away!

This is right out of Monty Python.

This is the ARMY for pete sake! Give them a gun and dare them to even try any nonsense again.


36 posted on 05/23/2013 11:59:11 AM PDT by DanielRedfoot
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To: Boonie

And this is the hacks solution to the problem? Don’t wear your uniform
off base? The once might Brittish Empire has come to this.
This would have not been the solution from Iron Lady Thatcher.


37 posted on 05/23/2013 11:59:15 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: tennmountainman

The great Clive Of India facing an army of 100,000 screaming Indians and conquering them with (If my memory does not fail me)about 2000 Red Coats. Sam Houston with about 800 untrained militia defeating 2000 trained Mexican soldiers. Those are the examples of the former Western man. Today our “men” would flee in abject terror.


38 posted on 05/23/2013 12:01:43 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Boonie

I e-mailed 10 Downing Street and said that The Changing of the Guard in Blue Jeans should be inspiring.


39 posted on 05/23/2013 12:01:58 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: massgopguy

That’s Awesome!!


40 posted on 05/23/2013 12:19:23 PM PDT by DanielRedfoot
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Next we will tell ICE agents not to arrest unregistered Democrats.


41 posted on 05/23/2013 12:20:04 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We surrender.


42 posted on 05/23/2013 12:32:10 PM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: ZULU

The odd thing is that these terrorists were strangely genteel - no killing the women or children, unlike the Boston bombers.

And I wish the crowd had swarmed these two, dismembered them, and found some nice pork sausage in a nearby shop...but that one den mother who talked to them either had a great deal of courage and cool-headedness...or has been thoroughly brain-washed. I would hope the former.


43 posted on 05/23/2013 12:37:55 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In the late ‘70s, we were told not to wear our uniforms off-base at Offutt AFB (Nebraska, no less). We would just be “inviting trouble”. This of course thanks to Jimmy The Peanut Brain Carter and his demonizing of the military. As a newly minted USAF officer, I thought; “These are the people I have sworn to protect and defend?”

Two years later that all changed when we finally got a Commander-In-Chief (Ronald Reagan).

44 posted on 05/23/2013 12:49:23 PM PDT by mesoman7
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The UK needs a military coup - led by Prince Harry.


45 posted on 05/23/2013 12:52:02 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: tennmountainman

I miss Lady Thatcher, we need many more like her.

I also miss the old stiff upper lip, where has it gone?

Turn your eyes towards Jesus people of Britain, the country needs delivering.


46 posted on 05/23/2013 12:55:51 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Jim Noble

That’s actually not a bad idea, sadly I don’t know much about Harry’s political leanings though.


47 posted on 05/23/2013 12:56:56 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe the Brits should be hiding under their desks as well(?)


48 posted on 05/23/2013 12:59:33 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

score another victory for radical Islam


49 posted on 05/23/2013 1:31:26 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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And this is the hacks solution to the problem? Don’t wear your uniform off base? The once might Brittish Empire has come to this. This would have not been the solution from Iron Lady Thatcher.

Mr. Chairman, Mr. President, Ladies, and Gentlemen, I stand before you tonight in my Red Star chiffon evening gown, my face softly made up and my fair hair gently waved, the ‘Iron Lady’ of the Western world. A Cold War warrior, an Amazon philistine, even a Peking plotter. Yes, if that’s how they wish to interpret my defense of values and freedoms fundamental to our way of life.

50 posted on 05/23/2013 2:30:42 PM PDT by apro
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